Incredible

[flockofseagulls104]

A "doctor" brought in as an 'expert' by the democrat party.

Yup. Just because you get through med school does not make you an expert on anything. Same thing with law school.

[flockofseagulls104]

I just looked her up. She works at Emory, not 5 miles from me. Maybe I'll go to her clinic and find out how I can get pregnant.

[tlynn78]

I just looked her up. She works at Emory, not 5 miles from me. Maybe I'll go to her clinic and find out how I can get pregnant.

Utterly ridiculous and indefensible.

[Beebs52]

I just looked her up. She works at Emory, not 5 miles from me. Maybe I'll go to her clinic and find out how I can get pregnant.

I think you'll have to get gender reassignment surgery, hormone treatment, tucking in of certain parts, then add a baby bag making thing and flip flop the surgery.
That will be $150,000.

[tlynn78]

I just looked her up. She works at Emory, not 5 miles from me. Maybe I'll go to her clinic and find out how I can get pregnant.

I think you'll have to get gender reassignment surgery, hormone treatment, tucking in of certain parts, then add a baby bag making thing and flip flop the surgery.
That will be $150,000.

And that's just for the initial consultation.

[Beebs52]

I just looked her up. She works at Emory, not 5 miles from me. Maybe I'll go to her clinic and find out how I can get pregnant.

I think you'll have to get gender reassignment surgery, hormone treatment, tucking in of certain parts, then add a baby bag making thing and flip flop the surgery.
That will be $150,000.

And that's just for the initial consultation.

[Weyoun]

Thankfully, I don’t have strong opinions on this issue.

The medical opinions that I do opine upon are issues that I am familiar with, usually based on very direct, first hand experience.

I gather we may have a couple of proctologists here based on some of the opinions offered

[Beebs52]

Thankfully, I don’t have strong opinions on this issue.

The medical opinions that I do opine upon are issues that I am familiar with, usually based on very direct, first hand experience.

I gather we may have a couple of proctologists here based on some of the opinions offered

No. You wish.

[flockofseagulls104]

I see the "doc" says he doesn't have strong opinions on this issue. So I guess he is not sure if men can get pregnant or not. Good to know.

[Weyoun]

I see the "doc" says he doesn't have strong opinions on this issue. So I guess he is not sure if men can get pregnant or not. Good to know.

Doesn't change my management of treating acutely ill patients. It's more for soft people like yourself to get worked up about. Hope that helps.

[BackInTex]

Doc, serious question.

If you had a trans identifying man (thinks he's a woman) patient and they came in and told you their concerns that at age 19 they haven't had their first period yet and ask you what you think is wrong. How would you handle it?

[Weyoun]

Doc, serious question.

If you had a trans identifying man (thinks he's a woman) patient and they came in and told you their concerns that at age 19 they haven't had their first period yet and ask you what you think is wrong. How would you handle it?

I’ve actually treated many, many transgender people.

And to be direct, these can be difficult encounters sometimes. Usually for psychiatric reasons. I am not sure what is the horse or the cart there. I try to be polite, use the preferred pronouns, and keep everything extremely focused to one big issue that I think I can help them with.

But none of them have asked such a stupid question, because they’re not stupid. They all pretty much understand the physiology well, because they’re having surgeries and taking hormones and such.

[BackInTex]

Doc, serious question.

If you had a trans identifying man (thinks he's a woman) patient and they came in and told you their concerns that at age 19 they haven't had their first period yet and ask you what you think is wrong. How would you handle it?

I’ve actually treated many, many transgender people.

And to be direct, these can be difficult encounters sometimes. Usually for psychiatric reasons. I am not sure what is the horse or the cart there. I try to be polite, use the preferred pronouns, and keep everything extremely focused to one big issue that I think I can help them with.

But none of them have asked such a stupid question, because they’re not stupid. They all pretty much understand the physiology well, because they’re having surgeries and taking hormones and such.

Thanks for your polite response. Just wondering how you handle them.

[Weyoun]

Doc, serious question.

If you had a trans identifying man (thinks he's a woman) patient and they came in and told you their concerns that at age 19 they haven't had their first period yet and ask you what you think is wrong. How would you handle it?

I’ve actually treated many, many transgender people.

And to be direct, these can be difficult encounters sometimes. Usually for psychiatric reasons. I am not sure what is the horse or the cart there. I try to be polite, use the preferred pronouns, and keep everything extremely focused to one big issue that I think I can help them with.

But none of them have asked such a stupid question, because they’re not stupid. They all pretty much understand the physiology well, because they’re having surgeries and taking hormones and such.

Thanks for your polite response. Just wondering how you handle them.

Fortunately, most of them are under the age of 30, and if only for that reason it’s very difficult for them to have serious medical emergencies. Probably half the patients I see in that group are there for assessment of chest pain, with the work up almost always totally benign. Make of that what you will.

[flockofseagulls104]

Here's the end point. Period.

PROVE ME WRONG:
As Hawley says, if you cannot emphatically state that biological men cannot get pregnant, you have zero, nada, not one ounce of credibility on any other subject.

[silverscreenselect]

Here's the end point. Period.

PROVE ME WRONG:
As Hawley says, if you cannot emphatically state that biological men cannot get pregnant, you have zero, nada, not one ounce of credibility on any other subject.

Here's my question. What does men getting pregnant have to do with whether or not there are significant side effects to an abortion pill, which was the focus of her testimony originally? In a courtroom, that question would have been immediately ruled inadmissible for reasons of relevence.

If she had answered Hawley's question directly, he would have continued on a path of increasingly silly and irrelevent questions designed to bog her down in trivial technicalities. His next question would have been something along the lines of "Well, then how can you call these [insert any derogatory slur for a trans person] men if they can't get pregnant?" Her mistake was in trying to be too polite. What she should have said was: "Your question has nothing to do with the purpose of this hearing or my testimony today. However, out of politeness, I will answer it, but I refuse to allow you to drag me down an irrelevent, purposeless semantic sideline with similar pointless follow-up questions."

[Weyoun]

Here's the end point. Period.

PROVE ME WRONG:
As Hawley says, if you cannot emphatically state that biological men cannot get pregnant, you have zero, nada, not one ounce of credibility on any other subject.

You’ve demonstrated on multiple occasions that you have no credibility on other subjects. So my argument would be that apparently there’s no correlation.

[flockofseagulls104]

So, to the two people that have decided NOT to prove me wrong, I ask you directly:

Can a biological man get pregnant? YES OR NO.

[flockofseagulls104]

Though I know it is pointless to engage in debate with you, I will refute a particularly dumb statement you just made:

What does men getting pregnant have to do with whether or not there are significant side effects to an abortion pill, which was the focus of her testimony originally?

If this so-called 'doctor' does not care enough to acknowledge the fundamental differences between a male and a female when asked directly in this situation, has she and will she be prescribing abortion pills to males? To anyone who asks for it? How can she then have any credibility in testifying about side effects?
So, are you a judge now, too? Any judge who rules that question inadmissible due to relevance probably also has been assigned to election integrity cases.

[Weyoun]

So, to the two people that have decided NOT to prove me wrong, I ask you directly:

Can a biological man get pregnant? YES OR NO.

No. My point remains that you are hung up on a flashpoint social issue, and that is always going to lead to heated feelings and irrational thoughts. Suffice it to say, you can think whatever you want about it, but if I need cancer treatment, I am taking the opinion of an oncologist over yours regardless of what either of you think about transgenderism.

[flockofseagulls104]

So, to the two people that have decided NOT to prove me wrong, I ask you directly:

Can a biological man get pregnant? YES OR NO.

No. My point remains that you are hung up on a flashpoint social issue, and that is always going to lead to heated feelings and irrational thoughts. Suffice it to say, you can think whatever you want about it, but if I need cancer treatment, I am taking the opinion of an oncologist over yours regardless of what either of you think about transgenderism.

So, despite much evidence to the contrary, I must concede you have at least one little toe in the world of reality. Congratulations. That is all.

[silverscreenselect]

So, to the two people that have decided NOT to prove me wrong, I ask you directly:

Can a biological man get pregnant? YES OR NO.

That wasn't the question that Hawley asked. He asked, "Can men get pregnant?" And I went to dictionary.com (and I assume most other dictionaries would have a similar list of definitions), and I found 20 definitions for "man." Without knowing the specific context Hawley was referring, it's an impossible question to answer.

And as far as abortion pills are concerned, if a doctor prescribes them to you probably meant as a man (as in an internet consultation or some similar situation), the side effects might be the same as if a non-pregnant woman took them, cramps, nausea, headache, or diarrhea.

[jarnon]

Here's my question. What does men getting pregnant have to do with whether or not there are significant side effects to an abortion pill, which was the focus of her testimony originally? In a courtroom, that question would have been immediately ruled inadmissible for reasons of relevence.

[flockofseagulls104]

So, to the two people that have decided NOT to prove me wrong, I ask you directly:

Can a biological man get pregnant? YES OR NO.

That wasn't the question that Hawley asked. He asked, "Can men get pregnant?" And I went to dictionary.com (and I assume most other dictionaries would have a similar list of definitions), and I found 20 definitions for "man." Without knowing the specific context Hawley was referring, it's an impossible question to answer.

And as far as abortion pills are concerned, if a doctor prescribes them to you probably meant as a man (as in an internet consultation or some similar situation), the side effects might be the same as if a non-pregnant woman took them, cramps, nausea, headache, or diarrhea.

Still trying to dodge this obvious question that I asked DIRECTLY TO YOU. You are demonstrating your lack of credibility on any subject. You realize that, do you not? I am not asking YOU about abortion pills. I am not asking for deflections or explanations. Answer the question, Yes or no.

Again, I am not debating you. I am refuting another of your false statements. Which also proves you did not bother watching the clip I provided you. You are just knee jerking, once again for the thousandth time.
Several times, Hawley asked her CAN BIOLOGICAL MEN GET PREGNANT?
If you want to continue going down the 'depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is' wormhole, knock yourself out. But you know what I'm asking you. I think this is just another defense mechanism your brain has concocted to protect you from the wholesale hypocrisy of your chosen worldview.

[earendel]

Here's the end point. Period.

PROVE ME WRONG:
As Hawley says, if you cannot emphatically state that biological men cannot get pregnant, you have zero, nada, not one ounce of credibility on any other subject.

i hesitate to get involved in this because I know my words won't change anyone's mind, but here I go.

Can a biological man get pregnant? With our current state of medical knowledge I would say no. But it may be possible in the future to allow this - surgery to add a uterus, fallopian tubes, etc. and hormones to facilitate the process.

But here are two question for you, flock: What about "biological women" who can't get pregnant for one reason or another? If pregnancy is the only criterion for judging who is male and who is female, what do you say to the infertile, those who have had hysterectomies because of medical problems, or for other reasons cannot conceive?