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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#76 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:12 pm

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That interview today should be the final nail in his candidate coffin. He wasn't as bad as during the debate, but he certainly didn't consistently project confidence. That was after a rally earlier today in Wisconsin where he hit it out of the park. Here, he had some good answers and hit the talking points, but he couldn't keep it up. Instead, he had that vacant look on his face several times; he hesitated a few times and stumbled over himself a couple of times. You can expect to see those on right wing media. He also dismissed the polls against him first saying he only had one bad poll since the debate and wound up coming up with three before he finished talking. A couple of times he indicated he wouldn't accept anyone telling him to get out of the race except the good Lord Almighty. And when Stephanopolous asked how he would feel if he stayed in the race and Trump won. His answer was that if he had given it his all, he wouldn't feel too bad. That sort of "giving it the old college try" response goes against everything he's been saying about how disastrous a second Trump term would be.

Again, Stephanopolous didn't ask him any gotcha questions and Biden couldn't get through a 20-minute interview. Someone needs to talk some sense into him this weekend.

PS: Hakeem Jeffrey has scheduled a Zoom call with all Democratic representatives Monday, just before Congress goes back into session.
Flock. What were you posting about before?
Because Sss seems to be sorta agreeing?
They are all only talking about him getting out of the race, because they are afraid they will lose to trump. That seems to be their only concern. And who can replace him that has a chance. No one is talking about what a vulnerability he is as the current President. No concern about that.

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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#77 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm

Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#78 Post by BackInTex » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:29 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
I find it refreshing that much of the "lies" the right has been saying about the Biden presidency is turning out to be true (Media and staff protecting him from the public, being fed questions ahead of time, dementia, etc.). Somethings are obvious to folks who keep their heads out of their butts.
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#79 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:37 am

BackInTex wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:29 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
I find it refreshing that much of the "lies" the right has been saying about the Biden presidency is turning out to be true (Media and staff protecting him from the public, being fed questions ahead of time, dementia, etc.). Somethings are obvious to folks who keep their heads out of their butts.
These people don't care what lies they are being fed. They think trump is the second coming of hitler. When it is actually the nazis that are feeding them the lies.
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#80 Post by wbtravis007 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:33 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
If by that you mean that Biden will be the nominee, we’ll see.

If you’d be willing to bet on that, let me know.

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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#81 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:36 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:33 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
If by that you mean that Biden will be the nominee, we’ll see.

If you’d be willing to bet on that, let me know.
It doesn't really matter.
I'm a little curious, when the Left wants to shitcan Kamela, is that racist? Sexist?
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#82 Post by wbtravis007 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:37 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:36 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:33 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
If by that you mean that Biden will be the nominee, we’ll see.

If you’d be willing to bet on that, let me know.
It doesn't really matter.
I'm a little curious, when the Left wants to shitcan Kamela, is that racist? Sexist?
Not sure what you’re meaning when you say that it doesn’t really matter. If by that you mean that you think Trump is going to win no matter what happens, I’d be interested to know whether you’d want to bet about that, too.

I don’t think that anyone’s going to be calling Harris a pussy or a traitor or saying that if a crowd chants that they want to hang her something like: “Well, she ‘deserves’ that.”

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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#83 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:15 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:37 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:36 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:33 pm


If by that you mean that Biden will be the nominee, we’ll see.

If you’d be willing to bet on that, let me know.
It doesn't really matter.
I'm a little curious, when the Left wants to shitcan Kamela, is that racist? Sexist?
Not sure what you’re meaning when you say that it doesn’t really matter. If by that you mean that you think Trump is going to win no matter what happens, I’d be interested to know whether you’d want to bet about that, too.

I don’t think that anyone’s going to be calling Harris a pussy or a traitor or saying that if a crowd chants that they want to hang her something like: “Well, she ‘deserves’ that.”
No, I mean it doesn't matter. Dems have a huge mess of their own making on their hands. I don't put a great deal of hope into polls, and I don't underestimate the ability of the Left to find millions of votes after most of us go to bed on election night.
And which is it? Racist or exist? Or! Maybe we were simply
ight when we said she's utterly unqualified.
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#84 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:17 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:36 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:33 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:44 pm
Sounds like the Left us going to be stuck with the consequence of their decisions
If by that you mean that Biden will be the nominee, we’ll see.

If you’d be willing to bet on that, let me know.
It doesn't really matter.
I'm a little curious, when the Left wants to shitcan Kamela, is that racist? Sexist?
You say it all in your first statement.
It doesn't matter, 'cause whatever happens, they will lie to themselves about it. Truth is not a leftist value.
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#85 Post by wbtravis007 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:52 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:15 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:37 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:36 pm


It doesn't really matter.
I'm a little curious, when the Left wants to shitcan Kamela, is that racist? Sexist?
Not sure what you’re meaning when you say that it doesn’t really matter. If by that you mean that you think Trump is going to win no matter what happens, I’d be interested to know whether you’d want to bet about that, too.

I don’t think that anyone’s going to be calling Harris a pussy or a traitor or saying that if a crowd chants that they want to hang her something like: “Well, she ‘deserves’ that.”
No, I mean it doesn't matter. Dems have a huge mess of their own making on their hands. I don't put a great deal of hope into polls, and I don't underestimate the ability of the Left to find millions of votes after most of us go to bed on election night.
And which is it? Racist or exist? Or! Maybe we were simply
ight when we said she's utterly unqualified.
Sorry. Just kind of hard for me to follow what you’re really trying to say here.

On that last comment, I don’t remember hearing “when we [y’all] said she’s utterly unqualified” or, for that matter, ever saying or thinking that she was. Never remember hearing that much from either side about Spiro T Agnew or Quayle or Palin on that front, either. Or Trump, for that matter.

Did someone hit a nerve with you about being racist or sexist or something? Y’all seem pretty defensive about that.

Not sure why y’all are posting like this anyway on the thread started by Skoop that clearly was not meant to invite the kind of “THE LEFT SUCKS” “YA’LL ARE WEARING BLINDERS” “YOUR HEADS ARE UP YOUR ASSES” comments that can be found on every thread here.

Knowing that y’all can’t help yourselves, I still would hope that y’all’s little pea-pickin’ hearts will be blessed.

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#86 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:59 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:52 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:15 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:37 pm


Not sure what you’re meaning when you say that it doesn’t really matter. If by that you mean that you think Trump is going to win no matter what happens, I’d be interested to know whether you’d want to bet about that, too.

I don’t think that anyone’s going to be calling Harris a pussy or a traitor or saying that if a crowd chants that they want to hang her something like: “Well, she ‘deserves’ that.”
No, I mean it doesn't matter. Dems have a huge mess of their own making on their hands. I don't put a great deal of hope into polls, and I don't underestimate the ability of the Left to find millions of votes after most of us go to bed on election night.
And which is it? Racist or exist? Or! Maybe we were simply
ight when we said she's utterly unqualified.
Sorry. Just kind of hard for me to follow what you’re really trying to say here.

On that last comment, I don’t remember hearing “when we [y’all] said she’s utterly unqualified” or, for that matter, ever saying or thinking that she was. Never remember hearing that much from either side about Spiro T Agnew or Quayle or Palin on that front, either. Or Trump, for that matter.

Did someone hit a nerve with you about being racist or sexist or something? Y’all seem pretty defensive about that.

Not sure why y’all are posting like this anyway on the thread started by Skoop that clearly was not meant to invite the kind of “THE LEFT SUCKS” “YA’LL ARE WEARING BLINDERS” “YOUR HEADS ARE UP YOUR ASSES” comments that can be found on every thread here.

Knowing that y’all can’t help yourselves, I still would hope that y’all’s little pea-pickin’ hearts will be blessed.
Lol! Okay, boo.
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#87 Post by wbtravis007 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:01 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:59 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:52 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:15 pm


No, I mean it doesn't matter. Dems have a huge mess of their own making on their hands. I don't put a great deal of hope into polls, and I don't underestimate the ability of the Left to find millions of votes after most of us go to bed on election night.
And which is it? Racist or exist? Or! Maybe we were simply
ight when we said she's utterly unqualified.
Sorry. Just kind of hard for me to follow what you’re really trying to say here.

On that last comment, I don’t remember hearing “when we [y’all] said she’s utterly unqualified” or, for that matter, ever saying or thinking that she was. Never remember hearing that much from either side about Spiro T Agnew or Quayle or Palin on that front, either. Or Trump, for that matter.

Did someone hit a nerve with you about being racist or sexist or something? Y’all seem pretty defensive about that.

Not sure why y’all are posting like this anyway on the thread started by Skoop that clearly was not meant to invite the kind of “THE LEFT SUCKS” “YA’LL ARE WEARING BLINDERS” “YOUR HEADS ARE UP YOUR ASSES” comments that can be found on every thread here.

Knowing that y’all can’t help yourselves, I still would hope that y’all’s little pea-pickin’ hearts will be blessed.
Lol! Okay, boo.
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#88 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:34 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:
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I'll keep trying.

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Wes Moore
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I assume that if Biden releases his delegates, he will ask them to vote for Harris, plus a VP to be determined. People who voted for him, kind of were voting for her anyway.
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#89 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:48 pm

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I personally think that there are better alternatives than Harris in terms of electability, but I realize that neither she nor anyone else is a possibility unless Biden is persuaded that he should pass the torch to someone. If he feels constrained to turn to Harris, or for some other reason decides that she would give us the best chance to defeat Trump, so be it. I think she'd give us a better chance in a close race than Biden would. I think, though, that someone else might afford an opportunity for a victory by a comfortable margin, if the transition were to be handled well.
I've been saying for a while that President Biden is asking the wrong question. The question isn't whether he can win. He can. He's clearly an underdog at this point but he could win.

The question is whether President Biden is the Democrat who is most likely to keep Donny out of the Oval Office. He's not. I think President Biden's public performance at the debate irreparably damaged his campaign. In every scenario I can think of that results in a Biden victory, any other credible Democratic nominee also would win. And I can think of lots of scenarios where a different Democratic nominee would win but President Biden would not.

That, to me, is decisive. President Biden needs to do what's best for the country. In this case, what's best for the country is taking the step necessary to minimize the likelihood that Donny gains power again. I continue to have faith that President Biden will take that step in time, even if it comes at some personal cost.

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#90 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:51 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
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I’m having a hard time envisioning that there would be very many voters who would think something like:

Well, I was going to vote for Biden [or Harris, since I know quite a bit about her and I like her], but now, since they’ve nominated somebody I know nothing about, I don’t have enough time to consider them so I’ll just go with Trump.
No, but they very well might think: I don't want to vote for Donny but I don't know enough about the Democratic nominee so I won't vote at all. --Bob
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#91 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:54 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:51 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:17 pm
I’m having a hard time envisioning that there would be very many voters who would think something like:

Well, I was going to vote for Biden [or Harris, since I know quite a bit about her and I like her], but now, since they’ve nominated somebody I know nothing about, I don’t have enough time to consider them so I’ll just go with Trump.
No, but they very well might think: I don't want to vote for Donny but I don't know enough about the Democratic nominee so I won't vote at all. --Bob
Talk about tone deafness.
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Re: If Biden releases his delegates

#92 Post by jarnon » Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:58 am

The Democratic National Committee has been planning a virtual roll call of convention delegates, to avoid legal challenges in states with early filing deadlines. It was originally scheduled for July 21 (guaranteeing Biden’s nomination). Now they say it will be in August.
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