What will L.A. Etc Use for the Mark?

[Spock]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-ci ... ants-gyms/

It appears we are fast entering a world where you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark (proof of Covid Vaccination)-L.A. is the first mention I have seen mentioning stores as a forbidden place.

The "Mark" can't solely be digital as many people don't have smart phones or even cell phones.

A plain piece of paper could be used by multiple people. We also know from voter ID fights that Photo ID is racist so that option seems to be off the table.

I don't know? Maybe some sort of a chip or tattoo on the right hand or forehead for the vaccinated might be the best option?

[earendel]

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/l-a-ci ... ants-gyms/

It appears we are fast entering a world where you won't be able to buy or sell without the mark (proof of Covid Vaccination)-L.A. is the first mention I have seen mentioning stores as a forbidden place.

The "Mark" can't solely be digital as many people don't have smart phones or even cell phones.

A plain piece of paper could be used by multiple people. We also know from voter ID fights that Photo ID is racist so that option seems to be off the table.

I don't know? Maybe some sort of a chip or tattoo on the right hand or forehead for the vaccinated might be the best option?

Some preachers/evangelists are noting that "mask" is only one letter removed from "mark".

[bazodee]

Can't be that difficult. All three vaccines have a microchip injected into us, right?

[silverscreenselect]

I'd like to know what mark they're going to put on the tombstones of those who die of Covid because they refused the vaccine.

[Weyoun]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

[Spock]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

[Weyoun]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

Thanks for thinking you could just blow the Bible up our asses without questioning things further.

I have said it here before, and you did not respond. Do you think Jesus would recommend taking the vaccine?

I think he probably would. He would want you to do something considerate toward your fellow humans. People like you always cite some risk of some side effect, but what is your mortal body compared to your soul?

You talk about not wanting to be one of the folks with a mark when the time comes. Personally, I would rather be someone who was considerate of his fellow man when the time comes.

[Bob78164]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

Either the card itself or a photocopy. I plan to use a photocopy for places where I don't feel like bringing my iPad. --Bob

[Spock]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

Thanks for thinking you could just blow the Bible up our asses without questioning things further.

I have said it here before, and you did not respond. Do you think Jesus would recommend taking the vaccine?

I think he probably would. He would want you to do something considerate toward your fellow humans. People like you always cite some risk of some side effect, but what is your mortal body compared to your soul?

You talk about not wanting to be one of the folks with a mark when the time comes. Personally, I would rather be someone who was considerate of his fellow man when the time comes.

I didn't blow the bible up anybody's ass. I took it as fair game since our resident biblical scholar (Bob#'s) went down that road in another thread.

Weyoun>>>" People like you always cite some risk of some side effect,"<<<

I guess it would have to be "people like me" then-because I don't think I have ever cited side effects here.

I do pay a lot of attention to what a couple ofPHD Evolutionary Biologists; Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying (Dirt Bags, as you term them) have to say on the topic-but I haven't said much about them here.

Per WWJD-I am not a big Jesus fan-I am more of an Old Testament God person.

Never heard the idea before that taking "The Mark of Beast" at the relevant time would be considerate of your fellow man. That is a new one for me. I guess that is one way that they will sell it.

[BackInTex]

Never heard the idea before that taking "The Mark of Beast" at the relevant time would be considerate of your fellow man. That is a new one for me. I guess that is one way that they will sell it.

Come on Spock! The more that take the mark, the more room in Heaven for those that don't. The ultimate sacrifice.

[Spock]

Never heard the idea before that taking "The Mark of Beast" at the relevant time would be considerate of your fellow man. That is a new one for me. I guess that is one way that they will sell it.

Come on Spock! The more that take the mark, the more room in Heaven for those that don't. The ultimate sacrifice.

LOL.

I thought of something else after my previous post. Weyoun accused me of "Blowing the Bible up our asses" when, by his own admission, he previously had a history of asking people if "Jesus would take the vaccine?"

Sounds like he is fond of blowing his version of Jesus up people's asses.

[Spock]

Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

Either the card itself or a photocopy. I plan to use a photocopy for places where I don't feel like bringing my iPad. --Bob

Aren't you the good little "Show Me Your Papers" boy. You even have backup plans and everything.

[BackInTex]

[quote=Bob78164 post_id=579548 time=<a href="tel:1628794180">1628794180</a> user_id=23]
[quote=Spock post_id=579546 time=<a href="tel:1628793464">1628793464</a> user_id=204][quote=Weyoun post_id=579541 time=<a href="tel:1628788967">1628788967</a> user_id=57]Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?[/quote]Either the card itself or a photocopy. I plan to use a photocopy for places where I don't feel like bringing my iPad. --Bob
[/quote]

Aren't you the good little "Show Me Your Papers" boy. You even have backup plans and everything.
[/quote]

He obviously feels this is more important than voting which means more important than deciding on who will mandate you have the vaccine passport or not. Seems a little circular to me.

[Spock]

[quote=Bob78164 post_id=579548 time=<a href="tel:1628794180">1628794180</a> user_id=23]
[quote=Spock post_id=579546 time=<a href="tel:1628793464">1628793464</a> user_id=204][quote=Weyoun post_id=579541 time=<a href="tel:1628788967">1628788967</a> user_id=57]Great news, since it lets us know who the dead weight and dead beats are.

The funny thing is, if you just got the vaccine, this eventuality would not happen.

So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine.

Funny how that works.

I just flew back from France. For example, in the airport even, you have to show proof of your vaccination.

Fine by me. Keeps the dirt bags home.

Taking this as not "The Mark of the Beast." I think a terrifying object lesson can be drawn at how quickly and easily a large portion of the world has moved to the "No Man May Buy Or Sell" position. Trial Run? Maybe? Scary part is that for the first time in history-we have the technology for that.

As Weyoun said "Just take the vaccine." and someday soon-it might be "Just take the Mark."

Weyoun>>>"So if you were really worried about the end of the world or the Mark of the beast, you would get the vaccine."<<<<

WTF?-I think the whole point is that when/if that time comes-you want to be one of the people who are NOT allowed to buy or sell.

Per France-A month ago, I flew back from Namibia which was in a massive Covid fear cycle and we only had to show negative tests on both ends.

But realistically-what is going to be used as proof of vaccination for those without digital means?

Either the card itself or a photocopy. I plan to use a photocopy for places where I don't feel like bringing my iPad. --Bob
[/quote]

Aren't you the good little "Show Me Your Papers" boy. You even have backup plans and everything.
[/quote]

He obviously feels this is more important than voting which means more important than deciding on who will mandate you have the vaccine passport or not. Seems a little circular to me.
[/quote]

Yeah, and don't forget how, of anyone here-he congratulates himself the most on how he would stand up to tyranny.

[silverscreenselect]

Yeah, and don't forget how, of anyone here-he congratulates himself the most on how he would stand up to tyranny.

"Tyranny" is not supporting public health measures that have been documented effective in a situation in which hospitals are literally being overrun with new cases.

If you and your Sons of the Pioneers buddies want to sit around and infect and kill each other to prove your manhood, that would be one thing. But it doesn't just affect you. It affects those children and others who can't get the vaccine. It affects potential breakthrough cases who have a wider exposure to those with a more virulent strain of the virus. It affects everyone who can't get hospital care because their hospitals are overrun with patients who were just as pigheaded as you and guessed wrong about their natural immunity.

[Spock]

Yeah, and don't forget how, of anyone here-he congratulates himself the most on how he would stand up to tyranny.

"Tyranny" is not supporting public health measures that have been documented effective in a situation in which hospitals are literally being overrun with new cases.

If you and your Sons of the Pioneers buddies want to sit around and infect and kill each other to prove your manhood, that would be one thing. But it doesn't just affect you. It affects those children and others who can't get the vaccine. It affects potential breakthrough cases who have a wider exposure to those with a more virulent strain of the virus. It affects everyone who can't get hospital care because their hospitals are overrun with patients who were just as pigheaded as you and guessed wrong about their natural immunity.

I am reminded of that William Wallace quote from Braveheart-Paraphrasing.

"You may take our lives, but you will never take our right to show you our papers for a disease with a 99.9 something percent survival rate."

[silverscreenselect]

"You may take our lives, but you will never take our right to show you our papers for a disease with a 99.9 something percent survival rate."

There are 220 million licensed drivers in the United States. There were 10,500 deaths due to drunk driving in 2016, the latest year for which I could find CDC statistics. Therefore, drunk driving is a "disease" which has a much greater that 99.9 percent survival rate, so we shouldn't have any laws interfering with our freedom to drive in whatever state of intoxication we wish. After all, as Ron DeSantis says, we'll just have to learn to live with it. And your statistics on survival rates are based on earlier strains of the virus. It's too soon to tell accurately how deadly the delta variant is.

[silverscreenselect]

I am reminded of that William Wallace quote from Braveheart-Paraphrasing.

"You may take our lives, but you will never take our right to show you our papers for a disease with a 99.9 something percent survival rate."

I am reminded of that quote from another macho, freedom-loving guy:

No, screw your freedom. Because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities, you cannot just say, 'I have the right to do X, Y and Z,' when you affect other people,

https://www.sfgate.com/california-polit ... 382436.php

[Bob78164]

I am reminded of that William Wallace quote from Braveheart-Paraphrasing.

"You may take our lives, but you will never take our right to show you our papers for a disease with a 99.9 something percent survival rate."

I am reminded of that quote from another macho, freedom-loving guy:

No, screw your freedom. Because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities, you cannot just say, 'I have the right to do X, Y and Z,' when you affect other people,

https://www.sfgate.com/california-polit ... 382436.php

Obviously Spock refuses on principle to carry a driver's license when he drives or any form of ID when he flies. And he insists on his "right" to cough into other people's faces. Because his freedom to spread illness is more important than his neighbors' right to be free of an avoidable illness. --Bob

[BackInTex]

Obviously Spock refuses on principle to carry a driver's license when he drives or any form of ID when he flies. And he insists on his "right" to cough into other people's faces. Because his freedom to spread illness is more important than his neighbors' right to be free of an avoidable illness. --Bob

Spock is not insisting on his right to cough into other people's faces. That is one of the problems with leftists such as yourself. You don't understand the concept of freedom...not freedom to be an asshole, just freedom to live your life.

Just like the free speech of the BLM folks who invade an outdoor dining area, spit in peoples food, drink their drinks, etc. They think they are express their right of free speech while they literally force it on others. This is apparently your worldview of freedom since you assume Spock would want to cough in people's face. He doesn't. Just because that is how you would behave, it's not how real freedom loving folks act.

<taping my watch waiting for you to go Google and find some rare instance where what I said isn't 100% true>

[Spock]

I am reminded of that William Wallace quote from Braveheart-Paraphrasing.

"You may take our lives, but you will never take our right to show you our papers for a disease with a 99.9 something percent survival rate."

I am reminded of that quote from another macho, freedom-loving guy:

No, screw your freedom. Because with freedom comes obligations and responsibilities, you cannot just say, 'I have the right to do X, Y and Z,' when you affect other people,

https://www.sfgate.com/california-polit ... 382436.php

Boy, that escalated quickly. We went from "2 Weeks to Flatten the Curve" to "Get the shot and things can return to normal" to "Screw your Freedom." You know-people telling me to "Screw your freedom" don't make me more likely to get the shot.

You know, SSS. I agree with Heying and Weinstein at Dark Horse Podcast that people like you are right to get the shots. You are a 70 YO(roughly) male with a history of Cancer. It is right that you took the 2 shots and however many boosters you will soon need, All indications are that a 3rd shot will be coming soon for the immuno-compromised.

I also agree that people like you should be taking all necessary precautions. Personally, I hope you are living some of your last years in the terror that you pretend to be the case here-but that is beside the point. Sensible precautions are called for in your case-maybe not living in terror but sensible precautions.

OTOH=Vaccinating 12 YO girls and filling them with terror for a disease that doesn't affect them is another can of worms entirely.

So is de=socializing our young children in the schools.

Talking to elementary teachers-the incoming 2nd Graders are way behind where they should be. They lost a chunk of kindergarten and first grade was all fucked up. Now, apparently, we want to fuck up 2nd Grade also.

[Bob78164]

Obviously Spock refuses on principle to carry a driver's license when he drives or any form of ID when he flies. And he insists on his "right" to cough into other people's faces. Because his freedom to spread illness is more important than his neighbors' right to be free of an avoidable illness. --Bob

Spock is not insisting on his right to cough into other people's faces.

Given how contagious the Delta variant is, he most certainly is insisting on the right to infect other people whether they like it or not. And Spock, along with others like him, are the exact people who are filling up hospital beds so that those among us with other ailments can't be timely treated for them because all of the unnecessary COVID patients are hogging all of the necessary resources.

Like most of vaccinated America, I've lost patience with the use of carrots to get him to do what's right. It's time to impose real consequences, directly on Spock and people like him, for the freedoms they are taking from me. Such as the freedom to count on a hospital bed if I need one. --Bob

[Bob78164]

Arnold gets it right. And apparently he's not bothered by the name-calling hurled in his direction. As he notes, he has a thick skin over the metal endoskeleton. --Bob

[Spock]

Obviously Spock refuses on principle to carry a driver's license when he drives or any form of ID when he flies. And he insists on his "right" to cough into other people's faces. Because his freedom to spread illness is more important than his neighbors' right to be free of an avoidable illness. --Bob

Spock is not insisting on his right to cough into other people's faces.

Given how contagious the Delta variant is, he most certainly is insisting on the right to infect other people whether they like it or not. And Spock, along with others like him, are the exact people who are filling up hospital beds so that those among us with other ailments can't be timely treated for them because all of the unnecessary COVID patients are hogging all of the necessary resources.

Like most of vaccinated America, I've lost patience with the use of carrots to get him to do what's right. It's time to impose real consequences, directly on Spock and people like him, for the freedoms they are taking from me. Such as the freedom to count on a hospital bed if I need one. --Bob

Really, is it people like me filling the beds? Probably not. My guess is if the beds were filled with 2X Covid patients that you guys (plus CNN-MSNBC etc) would be trumpeting that from here to Timbuctoo.

You talk tougher than anyone here. But I don't think I have to worry about any "Real consequences" from you-unless (stealing from SC) you will inflict a paper cut on me.

[Beebs52]

Obviously Spock refuses on principle to carry a driver's license when he drives or any form of ID when he flies. And he insists on his "right" to cough into other people's faces. Because his freedom to spread illness is more important than his neighbors' right to be free of an avoidable illness. --Bob

Spock is not insisting on his right to cough into other people's faces.

Given how contagious the Delta variant is, he most certainly is insisting on the right to infect other people whether they like it or not. And Spock, along with others like him, are the exact people who are filling up hospital beds so that those among us with other ailments can't be timely treated for them because all of the unnecessary COVID patients are hogging all of the necessary resources.

Like most of vaccinated America, I've lost patience with the use of carrots to get him to do what's right. It's time to impose real consequences, directly on Spock and people like him, for the freedoms they are taking from me. Such as the freedom to count on a hospital bed if I need one. --Bob

This struck me. Your statement reeks of entitlement. One is not guaranteed a room if needed even without a pandemic. There are many variables.

And BiT articulated it well above, Spock isn't madly, insanely carousing around hacking loogies on people.

Oh, and are you focusing your ire on every single demographic that refuses vaccination, or just white conservatives?