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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#26 Post by Vandal » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:14 pm

49. MICHAEL SYMON + 11. Barry Lyndon = Michael Landon (prairie)
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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#27 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:18 pm

kroxquo wrote:
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38. This environmental activist was the first Green Party candidate ever to receive an electoral vote.
RALPH NADER"

I'm not sure about this one. I don't really think of Nader as an "environmental activist."
23. BTK guy is named DENNIS RADER.

I am betting our activist is WINONA LaDuke for

38. WINONA LaDuke + 23. Dennis RADER = Winona Ryder (Jo)

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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#28 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 3:22 pm

franktangredi wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 pm
You got the basic idea on this one very quickly, but the Tangredi still needs some refinement. Look at the instructions and the various matches that have already been made.

I didn't get a chance to comment on the consolidation or the answers that came after, so here goes:

#50 - dammit, there are TWO people who fit this clue!
Well, then. If it's not David Dubinsky, then it must be SIDNEY HILLMAN.


13. LILLIAN Wald + 50. Sidney HILLMAN = Lillian Hellman (Foxes)

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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#29 Post by jarnon » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:11 pm

You did it again, MrK!
franktangredi wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 pm
You got the basic idea on this one very quickly, but the Tangredi still needs some refinement. Look at the instructions and the various matches that have already been made.
This may be a reminder that each permutation can be used only once.
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#30 Post by littlebeast13 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:49 pm

jarnon wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:11 pm
You did it again, MrK!
franktangredi wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 pm
You got the basic idea on this one very quickly, but the Tangredi still needs some refinement. Look at the instructions and the various matches that have already been made.
This may be a reminder that each permutation can be used only once.
Since there are 30 ways to switch the six vowels, this has to be correct. And I am amazed such a game could even be put together with recognizable names....

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#31 Post by littlebeast13 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:05 pm

A worksheet that can be added to the next consolidation....


A>E
A>I
A>O - 12. Edouard Manet + 32. Claude Shannon = Claude Monet (Impressionism)
A>U
A>Y - 38. WINONA LaDuke + 23. Dennis RADER = Winona Ryder (Jo)
E>A - 28. Joseph Conrad + 44. Chuck Wepner = Joseph Wapner (Judge)
E>I
E>O
E>U - 37. Sam Giancana + 5. Bob Feller = Sam Fuller (South Street)
E>Y - 46. Tammi Terrell + 16. Susan Collins = Susan Tyrrell (Fat)
I>A - 33. Margaret Taylor + 41. Isaac Singer = Margaret Sanger (Birth)
I>E - 13. LILLIAN Wald + 50. Sidney HILLMAN = Lillian Hellman (Foxes)
I>O
I>U
I>Y
O>A
O>E
O>I
O>U
O>Y
U>A
U>E
U>I - 26. Jiminy Cricket + 8. Christoph Gluck = Jiminy Glick (Short)
U>O
U>Y
Y>A - 49. MICHAEL SYMON + 11. Barry Lyndon = Michael Landon (prairie)
Y>E - 50. David Dubinsky + 4. Yul Brynner = David Brenner (Tonight)
Y>I
Y>O
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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#32 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:52 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:49 pm
jarnon wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:11 pm
You did it again, MrK!
franktangredi wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:33 pm
You got the basic idea on this one very quickly, but the Tangredi still needs some refinement. Look at the instructions and the various matches that have already been made.
This may be a reminder that each permutation can be used only once.
Since there are 30 ways to switch the six vowels, this has to be correct. And I am amazed such a game could even be put together with recognizable names....

lb13
I also think Frank might have said to look at the wrong answers. And is there something in the order of the first name as well?

Also, this one won't because 50 isn't Dubinsky but Hillman.

50. David Dubinsky + 4. Yul Brynner = David Brenner (Tonight)

BUT, the match is too good, so one of the missing answers has to be a David

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#33 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:12 pm

2. The legend of this Anglo-Saxon king getting reamed by a peasant woman for ruining her dinner is probably apocryphal.

ALFRED THE GREAT

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#34 Post by mellytu74 » Sat Nov 07, 2020 11:16 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:52 pm
littlebeast13 wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:49 pm
jarnon wrote:
Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:11 pm
You did it again, MrK!This may be a reminder that each permutation can be used only once.
Since there are 30 ways to switch the six vowels, this has to be correct. And I am amazed such a game could even be put together with recognizable names....

lb13
I also think Frank might have said to look at the wrong answers. And is there something in the order of the first name as well?

Also, this one won't because 50 isn't Dubinsky but Hillman.

50. David Dubinsky + 4. Yul Brynner = David Brenner (Tonight)

BUT, the match is too good, so one of the missing answers has to be a David
And here he is

58. In 1817, this economist advanced the concept of comparative advantage to explain why two nations should engage in trade even if one country’s workers excelled the others’s in the production every single trade good.

DAVID RICARDO

58. DAVID Ricardo + 4. Yul Brynner = David Brenner (Tonight)

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#35 Post by jarnon » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:00 am

New consolidation…

Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

Identify the 60 people in the clues below. Match them into 30 pairs according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Then match each pair with one of the Associated Words.

No names will be used twice. Every permutation of the Tangredi will be used only once. Alternate matches are possible, but only one solution will allow all the game to be completed.

1. My favorite lesser characters created by this novelist include the Fat Boy, the Aged P, and Mr. F’s Aunt.

2. The legend of this Anglo-Saxon king getting reamed by a peasant woman for ruining her dinner is probably apocryphal.
ALFRED THE GREAT

3. J. ROBERT OPPENHEIMER
*4. YUL BRYNNER
*5. BOB FELLER
6. DUKE OF WELLINGTON

7. DJMQ: Three years after founding the company that still bears his name, this influential choreographer created his most famous work, based on a play by William Shakespeare.

*8. CHRISTOPH GLUCK

9. In 1879, this pioneering German psychologist – in fact, the first person to call himself a psychologist – founded the first laboratory dedicated to psychological research.

10. RUPERT MURDOCH
*11. BARRY LYNDON
*12. EDOUARD MANET
*13. LILLIAN WARD

14. The nature of English metaphysical verse is probably best exemplified by this poet’s extended simile involving the legs of a compass.

15. He is the most recent person to receive NBA Coach of the Year honors for the second time.

*16. SUSAN COLLINS
17. DON BLUTH
18. ROBERT HOOKE
19. RANDY TRAVIS
20. HUGO BOSS

21. A leading proponent of logical positivism, this British philosopher also served as an M16 agent during World War II.

22. His claim to have been the first to reach the North Pole by air has been disputed, but nobody disputes his primacy on the other side of the globe.

*23. DENNIS RADER
*24. JOY MORTON
25. REGINALD POLE
*26. JIMINY CRICKET
27. OLIVER WENDALL HOLMES
*28. JOSEPH CONRAD
29. LOUIS KAHN
30. BEN CROSS

31. A two-time WSOP champ, he was the first player to win over one million dollars in poker tournaments.

*32. CLAUDE SHANNON
*33. MARGARET TAYLOR

34. One of the founders of modern historiography, this German historian is credited with introducing the empirical use of primary sources.

35. ANN COMPTON

36. He set to music the words of such Broadway lyricists as E.Y. Harburg, Stephen Sondheim, and – most frequently – Comden and Green.

*37. SAM GIANCANA
*38. WINONA LaDUKE
39. GEORGE ROGERS CLARK

40. Without the company founded by this Michigan-born entrepreneur, I could not have written this clue about him.
STEVE BALLMER or LARRY PAGE

*41. ISAAC SINGER
42. PETER STUYVESANT
43. CARL SANDBURG
*44. CHUCK WEPNER
45. IRENE ADLER
*46. TAMMI TERRELL
47. MAURITZ STILLER

48. This Lutheran minister was the driving force behind the Moral Re-Armament Movement.

*49. MICHAEL SYMON
*50. SIDNEY HILLMAN
*51. THOMAS GAINSBOROUGH

52. A veteran of more than 20 voyages across the Atlantic, this explorer was the first European to describe the Great Lakes.

53. One of the many Jewish scientists who fled Nazi Germany, this biochemist worked with an Australian colleague to refine a discovery made by a Scottish physician – which led to all three winning the Nobel Prize.

54. ERNIE NEVERS

55. This prolific German writer penned historical dramas about a Spanish prince, a Scottish queen, a French military leader, and a legendary Swiss hero.

56. MAGGIE SMITH
57. FRANKIE VALLI
*58. DAVID RICARDO
59. IMMANUEL KANT
60. ULYSSES GRANT

TANGREDI
First name from one clue + last name from another clue with one vowel changed = name that goes with an associated word

MATCHES
A>E
A>I
A>O - 32. CLAUDE Shannon + 12. Edouard MANET = Claude Monet (Impressionism)
A>U
A>Y - 38. WINONA LaDuke + 23. Dennis RADER = Winona Ryder (Jo)
E>A - 28. JOSEPH Conrad + 44. Chuck WEPNER = Joseph Wapner (Judge)
E>I
E>O
E>U - 37. SAM Giancana + 5. Bob FELLER = Sam Fuller (South Street)
E>Y - 16. SUSAN Collins + 46. Tammi TERRELL = Susan Tyrrell (Fat)
I>A - 33. MARGARET Taylor + 41. Isaac SINGER = Margaret Sanger (Birth)
I>E - 13. LILLIAN Wald + 50. Sidney HILLMAN = Lillian Hellman (Foxes)
I>O
I>U
I>Y
O>A
O>E - 51. THOMAS Gainsborough + 24. Joy MORTON = Thomas Merton (Monk)
O>I
O>U
O>Y
U>A
U>E
U>I - 26. JIMINY Cricket + 8. Christoph GLUCK = Jiminy Glick (Short)
U>O
U>Y
Y>A - 49. MICHAEL Symon + 11. Barry LYNDON = Michael Landon (Prairie)
Y>E - 58. DAVID Ricardo + 4. Yul Brynner = David Brenner (Tonight)
Y>I
Y>O
Y>U

UNUSED ASSOCIATED WORDS
Dirty
Awful
Boston
Wall Street
Gulf
Outlaw
Teenager
G. I. Joe
Norm
Jerry
Ron
Crystal
Turner
Pierce
Panthers
Expressionism
Intelligence
Kiss
Violin
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Re: Game #203: Tic-Tac-Toe

#36 Post by jarnon » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:13 am

54. ERNIE Nevers + 25. Reginald POLE = Ernie Pyle (G.I. Joe)
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#37 Post by kroxquo » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:38 am

40. LARRY Page + 22. Robert BYRD = Larry Bird (Boston)
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#38 Post by kroxquo » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:39 am

Could 52 Be Samuel de Champlain?
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#39 Post by kroxquo » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:46 am

42. PETER Stuyvesant + 30. Ben CROSS = Peter Criss (Kiss)
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#40 Post by kroxquo » Sun Nov 08, 2020 6:49 am

10. RUPERT Murdoch + 60. Ulysses GRANT = Rupert Grint (Ron)
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#41 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:16 am

franktangredi wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:39 am
36. He set to music the words of such Broadway lyricists as E.Y. Harburg, Stephen Sondheim, and – most frequently – Comden and Green.
This is JULE STYNE, who goes with Oliver Wendell Holmes for Oliver Stone (Wall Street).

And I now know why there were only 60 clues in this puzzle instead of the usual 100 or so in Frank's puzzles. Clever Tangredi, Frank.
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#42 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:24 am

56. Maggie Smith + 29. Louis Kahn = Maggie Kuhn (Panthers)
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#43 Post by franktangredi » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:41 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:16 am
franktangredi wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:39 am
36. He set to music the words of such Broadway lyricists as E.Y. Harburg, Stephen Sondheim, and – most frequently – Comden and Green.
This is JULE STYNE, who goes with Oliver Wendell Holmes for Oliver Stone (Wall Street).

And I now know why there were only 60 clues in this puzzle instead of the usual 100 or so in Frank's puzzles. Clever Tangredi, Frank.
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#44 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:46 am

kroxquo wrote:
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Could 52 Be Samuel de Champlain?
If this is Samuel de Champlain, it could match with Bob Feller for Samuel Fuller. Fuller was called both Sam and Samuel at different ties in his career.
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#45 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:35 am

Should have known 31. It's DOYLE BRUNSON.

Could Frank possibly be referring to Charles Dickens by his pen name, Boz, in #1? I can't think of any other author who had characters with those names.

If there's a Charles among the unknown clues, we could get Charles Bronson (Dirty).
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#46 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:43 am

48. is FRANK BUCHMAN


19. RANDY Travis + 48. BUCHMAN (U to A) = Randy Bachman (Turner)
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#47 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:56 am

7. is JOSE LIMON

57. FRANKIE Valli + 7. Jose LIMON (I becomes Y) = Frankie Lymon (teenager)
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#48 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:00 pm

55. is FRIEDRICH SCHILLER.

9. is WILHELM WUNDT

15. is MIKE BUDENHOLZER
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#49 Post by littlebeast13 » Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:16 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:
Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:00 pm
9. is WILHELM WUNDT

That's what I was looking for....

39. GEORGE Rogers Clark + 9. Wilhelm WUNDT = George Wendt (Norm)
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#50 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:19 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:
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55. is FRIEDRICH SCHILLER.
This goes with 18. Robert Hooke for Robert Schuller (Crystal)
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