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#1 Post by Vandal » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:05 pm

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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:57 pm

thenewcivilrightsmovement.com wrote:After officially announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president this morning, Scott Walker dashed off an email to supporters professing his White House run is "God's calling," and "God's plan."

That plan, as the email unfolds, includes working to ban abortions and same-sex marriage.

The Wisconsin governor, who survived both a recall and a re-election and now brags that he's been elected "three times in four years," described himself to followers as "the son of a Baptist preacher," whose "faith comes first."

"My relationship with God drives every major decision in my life. Each day I pray and then take time to read from the Bible and from a devotional named Jesus Calling," Walker's email reads.

"As you can imagine, the months leading up to my announcement that I would run for President of the United States were filled with a lot of prayer and soul searching," he adds, perhaps explaining why he is the 15th Republican this year to declare their candidacy for the White House.

"Here’s why: I needed to be certain that running was God’s calling -- not just man’s calling. I am certain: This is God’s plan for me and I am humbled to be a candidate for President of the United States."
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#3 Post by Pastor Fireball » Mon Jul 13, 2015 5:44 pm

thenewcivilrightsmovement.com wrote:After officially announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president this morning, Scott Walker dashed off an email to supporters professing his White House run is "God's calling," and "God's plan."
Walker clearly forgot that God makes prank calls all of the time. (See: Bachmann, Michele.)
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#4 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:29 am

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thenewcivilrightsmovement.com wrote:After officially announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination for president this morning, Scott Walker dashed off an email to supporters professing his White House run is "God's calling," and "God's plan."
Walker clearly forgot that God makes prank calls all of the time. (See: Bachmann, Michele.)
The left must be real scared of Scott Walker. They had a perfectly good narrative to paint him with since he didn't finish college. They could ignore him and mock him by portraying him as dumb, and the minions would buy that.

Now they can mock his religious beliefs too.

It used to be a positive that you had religious conviction. Now, somehow it's a sign of degeneracy or something. I guess times have changed.
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#5 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:50 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
It used to be a positive that you had religious conviction. Now, somehow it's a sign of degeneracy or something. I guess times have changed.
Yes, it used to be that "religious belief" in politics was synonymous with tolerance. Now it's synonymous with imposing your religious views on others.
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#6 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:16 am

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flockofseagulls104 wrote:
It used to be a positive that you had religious conviction. Now, somehow it's a sign of degeneracy or something. I guess times have changed.
Yes, it used to be that "religious belief" in politics was synonymous with tolerance. Now it's synonymous with imposing your religious views on others.
Since when, SSS? Who is imposing what on who? It looks to me like the secular crowd is imposing their non religious view on everyone. "God forbid" you mention God in any speech or even any utterance. The left wing PC police will be all over you.

Neither Scott Walker, nor any of the other Republican candidates, will be imposing their religious views upon you. That is a propagandistic mantra that you have fallen for hook, line and sinker. They will be presenting ideas and opinions that are different than yours. Reasonable people can agree or disagree with ideas. Left wing fanatics paint those ideas they disagree with as kooky or hateful so they don't have to debate them.
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#7 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:40 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote: Neither Scott Walker, nor any of the other Republican candidates, will be imposing their religious views upon you.
Only by the grace of the Supreme Court.

And since the overwhelming majority of legislation that's proposed is non-religious in nature, i.e., it has nothing to do with anyone's religious views, then I guess you could say every administration in history has tried to impose "non-religious views."

And you should try reading the Constitution sometimes. It says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. You know the very thing that Walker and all the other like minded Republicans try to do.
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#8 Post by littlebeast13 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:09 am

I hope Scott'll make more stuff like this rather than dreck like "How To Save A Life"....



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#9 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:49 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
flockofseagulls104 wrote: Neither Scott Walker, nor any of the other Republican candidates, will be imposing their religious views upon you.
Only by the grace of the Supreme Court.

And since the overwhelming majority of legislation that's proposed is non-religious in nature, i.e., it has nothing to do with anyone's religious views, then I guess you could say every administration in history has tried to impose "non-religious views."

And you should try reading the Constitution sometimes. It says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. You know the very thing that Walker and all the other like minded Republicans try to do.
Can you post just one message without a snarky remark in it? I know the Constitution. You have probably read it, but you seem not to know what it means.

We need to define Secularism as a religion. Secularists are using government to impose their views on everyone else.
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#10 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:47 am

According to this study, from 2000 through 2013, the percentage of middle-class households in Wisconsin dropped from 54.6% to 48.9%. That the largest drop of any state in that time period. Median household income in Wisconsin dropped 14% over that period. --Bob
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#11 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:58 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
We need to define Secularism as a religion. Secularists are using government to impose their views on everyone else.
I'm curious as to where those views might be found. Is there a Secularist Bible or Koran? Or maybe a Secularist Manifesto? Please post a link. I'd love to read it sometime. I'm sure there are millions of liberal secularists out there who have found it and are already scheming behind closed doors to impose a Secularist Jihad on religious folk, and I want to find out just what I've been missing out on.

The only secularist "view" I know of is that no form of religion should have a place in government. Wait, I guess there is a Secularist Manifesto after all. It's called the First Amendment.
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#12 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:43 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
The only secularist "view" I know of is that no form of religion should have a place in government. Wait, I guess there is a Secularist Manifesto after all. It's called the First Amendment.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof
You, like all liberals, have it backward. Government should have no place in establishing an official religion, or preventing people from practicing their religion. Of course it does say Congress. Now that Obama makes the law, I guess he can do anything he wants.

That is no surprise. You read
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
as meaning let's make whatever laws we can get away with to infringe upon the right to bear arms.

And how you interpret Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 can change based on what you had for breakfast that day.
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#13 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:51 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote: You, like all liberals, have it backward. Government should have no place in establishing an official religion, or preventing people from practicing their religion.
Among we liberals who have it backward are people like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, and the others who actually wrote the Constitution. Try reading their views sometime instead of Justice Scalia's. They all recognized that the First Amendment's protection goes far beyond merely prohibiting some sort of declaration that a particular religion is "official."
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