Ted Cruz for President

[flockofseagulls104]

I am not going to argue with you, Bob. I'm not an economist. But there are many people who say Krugman is full of crap, and Krugman is not shy about saying that anyone who disagrees with him is full of crap. They seem to be telling us contradictory stories. So who's telling the truth and who is lying? Who's smart and who's dumb? I don't know.

That's easy. The ones who make correct predictions are smart. The ones who make incorrect predictions are dumb. And that's something you can check. All you have to do is put away your ideological blinders. --Bob

There are many articles on the internet detailing how many times Krugman has been wrong about many things. but I guess these people are wrong and have ideological blinders on..
I examine issues and I make my decisions based on common sense. A 20 trillion debt in peacetime with a bland economy does not make much common sense to me. But what do I know? I agreed with Obama before 2008 on this subject. Maybe he got an education on the subject when he got power that I didn't get. All the other Presidents before him had some concern about running up the debt.

[flockofseagulls104]

Just a related observation:

I watched our local news this morning here in Oregon.

They reported that Ted Cruz had announced for President. In the report the reporter said that Cruz's speech highlighted his positions that he wants to repeal Obamacare (true, he said "imagine in 2017 a new president signing legislation repealing every word of Obamacare.") that he wants to get rid of the IRS (true: he said "Imagine abolishing the IRS." and that he wants to make abortions illegal (FALSE!!!).

It is so disgusting how the 'news' is so frickin biased. The closest he even came to that subject was saying "Instead of a federal government that works to undermine our values, imagine a federal government that works to defend the sanctity of human life...". That could mean a lot of things.

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that Cruz's stance on abortion is that the Federal government should not pay for abortions, and that subject should be left to the individual states, (which is how it should be, according to the Constitution). How this guy has the gall to say specifically that Cruz wants to make abortions illegal is totally irresponsible. But this local reporter is not the only one to do this kind of thing, and it is not limited to this instance. This kind of thing is rampant. Another "Hands up, Don't Shoot" moment.

[earendel]

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that Cruz's stance on abortion is that the Federal government should not pay for abortions, and that subject should be left to the individual states, (which is how it should be, according to the Constitution). How this guy has the gall to say specifically that Cruz wants to make abortions illegal is totally irresponsible. But this local reporter is not the only one to do this kind of thing, and it is not limited to this instance. This kind of thing is rampant. Another "Hands up, Don't Shoot" moment.

From what I've been able to find, Cruz is opposed to taxpayer funding of abortions on both the federal and state levels. He hasn't said anything about outlawing it completely, nor has he said anything about it being an issue for the states to decide (unlike same-sex marriage, where he does believe the states have the right to define marriage and the federal government has no business deciding).

[flockofseagulls104]

It is my understanding, and I may be wrong, that Cruz's stance on abortion is that the Federal government should not pay for abortions, and that subject should be left to the individual states, (which is how it should be, according to the Constitution). How this guy has the gall to say specifically that Cruz wants to make abortions illegal is totally irresponsible. But this local reporter is not the only one to do this kind of thing, and it is not limited to this instance. This kind of thing is rampant. Another "Hands up, Don't Shoot" moment.

From what I've been able to find, Cruz is opposed to taxpayer funding of abortions on both the federal and state levels. He hasn't said anything about outlawing it completely, nor has he said anything about it being an issue for the states to decide (unlike same-sex marriage, where he does believe the states have the right to define marriage and the federal government has no business deciding).

He may be opposed to it on the state level, but as President, that is not his business. (Unless he decides to use Obama precedents).

[Jeemie]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

[littlebeast13]

Bob...do you work hard at being so stupid, or does it just come naturally to you?

He's still a tween who hasn't met a lame Facebook meme he didn't think everyone should see....

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[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

There once was an America where citizens had an choice of how they bought health insurance.

[littlebeast13]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

There once was an America where citizens had an choice of how they bought health insurance.

Choose from two treatment options.... bloodletting or leeches!

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[Bob78164]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

There once was an America where citizens had an choice of how they bought health insurance.

There still is. What's missing now is the chance to go without and impose your health care costs (either through bankruptcy or unpaid ER work) on everyone else.

Speaking of predictions, by the way, the Affordable Care Act is turning out to be significantly less expensive than predicted. The curve is bending. --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

Everything's not a game. His wife left her job to work on his campaign so it's the law he has to sign up for it. He respects the law so he follows it. Unlike many of his colleagues in DC. Like he said, he wants a flat tax but he pays his income tax nevertheless.

[Bob78164]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

Everything's not a game. His wife left her job to work on his campaign so it's the law he has to sign up for it. He respects the law so he follows it. Unlike many of his colleagues in DC. Like he said, he wants a flat tax but he pays his income tax nevertheless.

No, it's not the law that he had to sign up through an exchange. His wife and her family (i.e., Senator Cruz and their kids) could have continued receiving coverage via COBRA. He made a choice to use Obamacare instead. --Bob

[Estonut]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

Everything's not a game. His wife left her job to work on his campaign so it's the law he has to sign up for it. He respects the law so he follows it. Unlike many of his colleagues in DC. Like he said, he wants a flat tax but he pays his income tax nevertheless.

No, it's not the law that he had to sign up through an exchange. His wife and her family (i.e., Senator Cruz and their kids) could have continued receiving coverage via COBRA. He made a choice to use Obamacare instead.

There are prerequisites to qualify for COBRA. Do you know enough about the job his wife left to know that they qualify? Is quitting one's job a valid qualifying event for COBRA?

[jarnon]

Ted Cruz is definitely playing some sort of interesting game. Be interesting to see what he is doing this for, but he is signing up for Obamacare.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/politics/ ... obamacare/

I'll say this- the 2016 election's gonna be fun. I may actually pay attention during the primaries for a change.

Everything's not a game. His wife left her job to work on his campaign so it's the law he has to sign up for it. He respects the law so he follows it. Unlike many of his colleagues in DC. Like he said, he wants a flat tax but he pays his income tax nevertheless.

No, it's not the law that he had to sign up through an exchange. His wife and her family (i.e., Senator Cruz and their kids) could have continued receiving coverage via COBRA. He made a choice to use Obamacare instead. --Bob

COBRA, and other insurance options available to his family, are surely much more expensive than employer-subsidized insurance, which in his case is Obamacare. By making a decision based on common sense instead of ideology, he's giving the impression that he won't be a nut case in the White House. And he's contrasting himself with his opponents like the Clintons who, Republicans argue, play by their own rules.

[silverscreenselect]

No, it's not the law that he had to sign up through an exchange. His wife and her family (i.e., Senator Cruz and their kids) could have continued receiving coverage via COBRA. He made a choice to use Obamacare instead. --Bob

COBRA, and other insurance options available to his family, are surely much more expensive than employer-subsidized insurance, which in his case is Obamacare. By making a decision based on common sense instead of ideology, he's giving the impression that he won't be a nut case in the White House. And he's contrasting himself with his opponents like the Clintons who, Republicans argue, play by their own rules.

For most people, Obamacare is not employer-subisidized insurance. It's an alternative for those who, for whatever reason, don't have employer-subsidized insurance. Now, Cruz, being a U.S. Senator, could probably afford his own health insurance through whatever outlets he had available before, assuming he was insurable. Most people can't. But for a lot of people working in somewhat less lucrative jobs, they had a Hobson's choice of options if their employer didn't offer health insurance. In most cases, their spouse would have had to stay in the job that did offer health insurance rather than try to pay the COBRA premium. There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

For what it's worth, I kept COBRA coverage through 2014 because I had already satisfied a good bit of my deductible due to some minor surgery I had in January. I switched to Obamacare for 2015. My employer provides a partial subsidy now for the cost of my coverage.

[flockofseagulls104]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

[silverscreenselect]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

You might want to look at the Justice Department report on police practices in Ferguson. That is, if you're really interested in finding out why people there have gotten so upset about the situation and not merely to serve as a conduit for Sean Hannity's talking points of the day.

[tlynn78]

Bob...do you work hard at being so stupid, or does it just come naturally to you?

He's still a tween who hasn't met a lame Facebook meme he didn't think everyone should see....

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LOL!

[flockofseagulls104]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

You might want to look at the Justice Department report on police practices in Ferguson. That is, if you're really interested in finding out why people there have gotten so upset about the situation and not merely to serve as a conduit for Sean Hannity's talking points of the day.

The Justice Department is corrupt. They found no evidence whatsoever that Darren Wilson did anything wrong. The idea that Micheal Brown was trying to surrender was a complete lie. If they had found anything they could place any doubt on, they would have. So they had to have a caveat, and what you are citing is it. Nothing is an excuse to riot.

http://therightscoop.com/watch-excellen ... shoot-lie/

It is especially telling how the real Fake News outlets sold the lie, even though they are supposed to be reporting the news rather than promoting a narrative. Look at that CNN panel, which is supposed to report the news, actively promote the lie. How can anyone with a rational mind go along with the Faux News meme? But they will, because they have no minds, only bigotry.

"Hands Up, Don't Shoot" is now OUR slogan to point out the bias that exists in the media and how the left promotes their false agenda.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Now, Cruz, being a U.S. Senator, could probably afford his own health insurance through whatever outlets he had available before, assuming he was insurable.

If Ted Cruz likes his insurance, he can keep his insurance. LOL, SSS repeats the lie of the year!

[SportsFan68]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

I don't know what this means, and Flock has set it up so we'll never know, and he can blame it on us. “If [we] are tempted to believe what information comes out of these sources about him, just think ‘Hands Up, Dont Shoot’ and extrapolate.” That way, he never actually has to rebut anything, he just types, “Hands up, don’t shoot,” discussion over.

To quote Flock in the Dignity of the Office thread, “That is a very simplistic view of things.” I don’t see how he can really believe it.

[littlebeast13]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

I don't know what this means, and Flock has set it up so we'll never know, and he can blame it on us. “If [we] are tempted to believe what information comes out of these sources about him, just think ‘Hands Up, Dont Shoot’ and extrapolate.” That way, he never actually has to rebut anything, he just types, “Hands up, don’t shoot,” discussion over.

To quote Flock in the Dignity of the Office thread, “That is a very simplistic view of things.” I don’t see how he can really believe it.

We're talking about someone who routinely shows his complete lack of understanding of fantasy baseball league rules. Maybe we should adopt the Constitution into the BBBL so flock can be our resident expert...

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[flockofseagulls104]

There's better ways to do it than Obamacare, but so far the Republicans haven't proposed any of them.

Hands Up, Don't Shoot.

I don't know what this means, and Flock has set it up so we'll never know, and he can blame it on us. “If [we] are tempted to believe what information comes out of these sources about him, just think ‘Hands Up, Dont Shoot’ and extrapolate.” That way, he never actually has to rebut anything, he just types, “Hands up, don’t shoot,” discussion over.

To quote Flock in the Dignity of the Office thread, “That is a very simplistic view of things.” I don’t see how he can really believe it.

Let me explain it to you.

The House Republicans have passed many amendments, alternatives and outright repeals of the AHA. All of them died on Harry Reid's desk. But we hear about the 'Do Nothing Congress', and it's blamed on the House Republicans. The actual bottleneck was in the Senate, by the Democrats and the go along republicans.

So the idea that the 'republicans' have no alternative to Obamacare is as truthful as "Hands Up Don't Shoot" was. It's just a slogan to rally the uninformed.

[flockofseagulls104]

We're talking about someone who routinely shows his complete lack of understanding of fantasy baseball league rules. Maybe we should adopt the Constitution into the BBBL so flock can be our resident expert...

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Actually I am supporting the rules I like and ignoring the ones I don't.

[silverscreenselect]

Now, Cruz, being a U.S. Senator, could probably afford his own health insurance through whatever outlets he had available before, assuming he was insurable.

If Ted Cruz likes his insurance, he can keep his insurance. LOL, SSS repeats the lie of the year!

You can thank Republican Senator Charles Grassley for putting that requirement into Obamacare.

[littlebeast13]

Let me explain it to you.

The House Republicans have passed many amendments, alternatives and outright repeals of the AHA. All of them died on Harry Reid's desk. But we hear about the 'Do Nothing Congress', and it's blamed on the House Republicans. The actual bottleneck was in the Senate, by the Democrats and the go along republicans.

So the idea that the 'republicans' have no alternative to Obamacare is as truthful as "Hands Up Don't Shoot" was. It's just a slogan to rally the uninformed.

It's a lame analogy regardless of what you believe..... but feel free to use my equally lame graphic the next time you contribute nothing to a discussion...

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