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mrkelley23 · #1 Post by **mrkelley23** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:52 pm

...from the eligibility statement on the new Jeopardy Adult online test that just went up.

Here's the eligibility statement from the main site, to appear on the show: "Applicants must be over 18 (except for the Teen Tournament, College Championship and the Kids' shows). You are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on any version of the show with Alex Trebek. You are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on a game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on Jeopardy! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., Sony Pictures Television Inc., Quadra Productions, Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy! prize suppliers, or any TV station (including advertisers and related radio stations) broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy!"

Here's the eligibility statement from the online test registration page: "A: You are eligible to take the Adult Online Test if you are 18 years or older before December 13, 2013 and live in the US or Canada. Unfortunately, you are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on a game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on Jeopardy! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., Sony Pictures Television Inc., Quadra Productions, Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy! prize suppliers, or any TV station (including advertisers and related radio stations) broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy!"

Anyone see the difference? Am I getting my hopes up for nothing?

TheConfessor · #2 Post by **TheConfessor** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:09 pm

Looks like those of us who have been contestants on Jeopardy are eligible to take the test. It says nothing about whether we can be on the show or not, but I'm not holding my breath. Unless more information surfaces, I wouldn't read too much into it.

franktangredi · #3 Post by **franktangredi** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 6:16 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:...from the eligibility statement on the new Jeopardy Adult online test that just went up.

Here's the eligibility statement from the main site, to appear on the show: "Applicants must be over 18 (except for the Teen Tournament, College Championship and the Kids' shows). You are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on any version of the show with Alex Trebek. You are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on a game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on Jeopardy! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., Sony Pictures Television Inc., Quadra Productions, Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy! prize suppliers, or any TV station (including advertisers and related radio stations) broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy!"

Here's the eligibility statement from the online test registration page: "A: You are eligible to take the Adult Online Test if you are 18 years or older before December 13, 2013 and live in the US or Canada. Unfortunately, you are not eligible to be a contestant on Jeopardy! if you have appeared on a game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on Jeopardy! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., Sony Pictures Television Inc., Quadra Productions, Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy! prize suppliers, or any TV station (including advertisers and related radio stations) broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy!"

Anyone see the difference? Am I getting my hopes up for nothing?

Don't toy with me.

kroxquo · #4 Post by **kroxquo** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:51 pm

They must have changed it since you posted. Here is what the eligibility requirements say now. I've bolded the sentence that breaks my heart.

You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on any version of the show with Alex Trebek. You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on a nationally broadcast game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on JEOPARDY! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Sullivan Compliance Company, or any television stations broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or JEOPARDY!

franktangredi · #5 Post by **franktangredi** » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:15 pm

kroxquo wrote:They must have changed it since you posted. Here is what the eligibility requirements say now. I've bolded the sentence that breaks my heart.

You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on any version of the show with Alex Trebek. You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on a nationally broadcast game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on JEOPARDY! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Sullivan Compliance Company, or any television stations broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or JEOPARDY!

I have a plan. I'm going to put Alex Trebek in my next game. He will be struck with the Tangredi curse, die, and all of us who were on the show in the Trebek era will be eligible again.

#6 Post by **Bob78164** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:35 am

I've always wondered why people seem to assume that eligibility will be restored when Alex finally retires. That's not how it's worked with Millionaire. --Bob

mrkelley23 · #7 Post by **mrkelley23** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:21 am

Bob78164 wrote:I've always wondered why people seem to assume that eligibility will be restored when Alex finally retires. That's not how it's worked with Millionaire. --Bob

1. Because people who played the Art Fleming version were allowed to play again under Trebek.

2. Because the wording of the eligibility requirements has always been so Trebek-specific, unlike Millionaire.

mrkelley23 · #8 Post by **mrkelley23** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:22 am

kroxquo wrote:They must have changed it since you posted. Here is what the eligibility requirements say now. I've bolded the sentence that breaks my heart.

You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on any version of the show with Alex Trebek. You are not eligible to be a contestant on JEOPARDY! if you have appeared on a nationally broadcast game show/dating show/relationship show/reality show in the last year or three game shows/dating shows/relationship shows/reality shows in the last 10 years. You may not be eligible to play on JEOPARDY! if you are employed by, related to, or within the last five years known anyone who works for Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., CBS Television Distribution, Sullivan Compliance Company, or any television stations broadcasting Wheel of Fortune or JEOPARDY!

When I read the eligibility page under the online test registration, it still says the same thing I posted. I only find the wording you post here under the main page -- eligibility to be on the show.

However, I tried to register for the online test, told the truth about being on with Alex, and got the message about how I could only play for fun. So no go this year.

TheConfessor · #9 Post by **TheConfessor** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:45 am

mrkelley23 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:I've always wondered why people seem to assume that eligibility will be restored when Alex finally retires. That's not how it's worked with Millionaire. --Bob

1. Because people who played the Art Fleming version were allowed to play again under Trebek.

2. Because the wording of the eligibility requirements has always been so Trebek-specific, unlike Millionaire.

I think it's more about the different production companies and networks involved than who is the host. Also the several year hiatus between the Fleming and Trebek eras made it clear that those were considered different shows. If Trebek retires in the next few years and the show continues with a new host, I don't expect the eligibility rules to change. The mention of Trebek in the rules is just a shortcut to clarify which era of Jeopardy is covered by the rules. The current producers have almost never even acknowledged the old NBC network Jeopardy ever existed. They consider NBC Jeopardy to be just another game show, but not the same show that they produce.

If that ever changes, several thousand former contestants would love to get another shot, but I don't think that's likely. It will be interesting to see how well the grizzled veterans play in the Decades Tournament (the first decade shows are taping today). I feel that I would be a much better contestant today than I was 24 years ago, thanks to lots of online resources that didn't exist back then. The strategy of playing Jeopardy has been extensively studied and refined since I played, though many contestants on the show seem to be unfamiliar with the basic concepts, especially regarding FJ wagering.

#10 Post by **littlebeast13** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:33 am

TheConfessor wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:I've always wondered why people seem to assume that eligibility will be restored when Alex finally retires. That's not how it's worked with Millionaire. --Bob

1. Because people who played the Art Fleming version were allowed to play again under Trebek.

2. Because the wording of the eligibility requirements has always been so Trebek-specific, unlike Millionaire.
I think it's more about the different production companies and networks involved than who is the host. Also the several year hiatus between the Fleming and Trebek eras made it clear that those were considered different shows. If Trebek retires in the next few years and the show continues with a new host, I don't expect the eligibility rules to change. The mention of Trebek in the rules is just a shortcut to clarify which era of Jeopardy is covered by the rules. The current producers have almost never even acknowledged the old NBC network Jeopardy ever existed. They consider NBC Jeopardy to be just another game show, but not the same show that they produce.

If that ever changes, several thousand former contestants would love to get another shot, but I don't think that's likely. It will be interesting to see how well the grizzled veterans play in the Decades Tournament (the first decade shows are taping today). I feel that I would be a much better contestant today than I was 24 years ago, thanks to lots of online resources that didn't exist back then. The strategy of playing Jeopardy has been extensively studied and refined since I played, though many contestants on the show seem to be unfamiliar with the basic concepts, especially regarding FJ wagering.

Didn't Alex and Pat Sajak once do a stunt (I think for April Fool Day) where each hosted the other's show for a day, or is that a figment of my imagination? If it isn't, are those contestants who appeared on the Jeopardy episode with Pat Sajak as host allowed to try again through a loophole?

lb13

ToLiveIsToFly · #11 Post by **ToLiveIsToFly** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:41 am

I have a strong memory of Maggie explaining all kinds of eligibility rules in the green room and saying when Alex retired, we'd be eligible to go back on. Of course I understand that memory's a funny thing, that it was more than ten years ago, and she may not have actually said that.

But I'll choose to believe it until proven otherwise.

silverscreenselect · #12 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:07 am

littlebeast13 wrote: I think it's more about the different production companies and networks involved than who is the host.

There were actually two different NBC versions of the show with Art Flemming. After it had been off the air for several years, it returned with somewhat different rules (they reduced the field from three contestants to two after Single Jeopardy). That version only lasted a few months.

#13 Post by **Bob78164** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:16 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
TheConfessor wrote: I think it's more about the different production companies and networks involved than who is the host.
There were actually two different NBC versions of the show with Art Flemming. After it had been off the air for several years, it returned with somewhat different rules (they reduced the field from three contestants to two after Single Jeopardy). That version only lasted a few months.

I'm glad those weren't the rules I played under. --Bob

#14 Post by **littlebeast13** » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:39 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
littlebeast13 wrote: I think it's more about the different production companies and networks involved than who is the host.
There were actually two different NBC versions of the show with Art Flemming. After it had been off the air for several years, it returned with somewhat different rules (they reduced the field from three contestants to two after Single Jeopardy). That version only lasted a few months.

Just for the record, that is not my quote...

lb13

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