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#1 Post by MarleysGh0st » Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:49 pm

Well, I guess that should read carryover contestant, since he started his run on Friday.

Anyway, Alan Carver made it to the lucky ROF via the Phone Game, and he's a true, MAWGish trivia nerd. And a trekkie! 8)

http://www.thenewstribune.com/televisio ... 75456.html
And Carver is the kind of everyman, working stiff you want to root for: a former Klingon Diplomatic Corps (think "Star Trek" fan) member who met his future bride, Laurie, almost by accident and got engaged to her 13 days later at a White Center KFC.
Look at that, beast! KFC!
He did well, he says, because he’s not like those other contestants who think they WANT to win a million dollars but don’t actually think they CAN.

“I’ve been watching the show, and I’ve been thinking these people are not planning on WINNING a million dollars,” he said, “they’re wasting time, using lifelines they don’t need to use, calling the wife and saying, ‘Look at me, honey, I’m on TV.’”
Well said, Alan, as long as you don't become a Walhal.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/t ... ire11.html
Q: Why did you think you'd be good on the show?

A: I'm an trivia expert. I read hundreds of trivia books. I watch "How to Be a Millionaire," "Jeopardy!" and "Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader." ... I am also a heavy user of the King County Library and by the grace of God, I have a great memory.
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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:05 pm

I'm glad he's interrupting Mere with the answers!

I just hope he doesn't blow it by going too fast.
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#3 Post by themanwho » Sat Sep 12, 2009 3:28 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
He did well, he says, because he’s not like those other contestants who think they WANT to win a million dollars but don’t actually think they CAN.

“I’ve been watching the show, and I’ve been thinking these people are not planning on WINNING a million dollars,” he said...
Well said. He believes in himself.

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#4 Post by Winnamill » Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:40 pm

Well, after reading that the tiebreaker will be time banked, that helps explain why he interrupted Meredith with the answers. However, I was trying to do projects while watching my tape and when he interrupted before the answers were all read, I could not play along as well. That made it a lot less fun as a viewer so I really hope this is not a trend. I don't have the best reception on my ancient TV even with cable so sitting in front of my tube may not have helped. If this starts happening all the time, it will suck a lot of fun out of the show for me.

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#5 Post by rexalite » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:28 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:Well, I guess that should read carryover contestant, since he started his run on Friday.

Anyway, Alan Carver made it to the lucky ROF via the Phone Game, and he's a true, MAWGish trivia nerd. And a trekkie! 8)

http://www.thenewstribune.com/televisio ... 75456.html
The tone of those articles makes it sure sound like he won big and the last sentence of that first article sure makes it sound like he saw the million dollar question at least:
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"Carver’s final category was “Brainiac,” though he can’t divulge the actual million-dollar query."

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#6 Post by Estonut » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:45 pm

rexalite wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:Well, I guess that should read carryover contestant, since he started his run on Friday.

Anyway, Alan Carver made it to the lucky ROF via the Phone Game, and he's a true, MAWGish trivia nerd. And a trekkie! 8)

http://www.thenewstribune.com/televisio ... 75456.html
The tone of those articles makes it sure sound like he won big and the last sentence of that first article sure makes it sound like he saw the million dollar question at least:
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"Carver’s final category was “Brainiac,” though he can’t divulge the actual million-dollar query."
Or he really can't divulge it, cuz he never saw it...
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#7 Post by Jeemie » Sat Sep 12, 2009 8:59 pm

Just watched his episode on the Web.

He was bordering on being ungraceful about the interruptions.

I know why he was doing it (time bank tiebreaker and all that), but he could have handled it a bit more gracefully during the in-between bits.

Although it looks like TPTB have decided to market him as hard core, since in the bits in between, Meredith hasn't really asked him a thing about his life (save for the Star Trek thingie)...they've focused solely on his mantra that he "will win a million dollars".

Be interesting to see what thought he's given to his PAFs, and how he handles that lifeline should he need it.
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#8 Post by guillotine06 » Sat Sep 12, 2009 9:09 pm

I don't think the interrupting is going to be a trend. Alan was the only one I saw doing that while I was there.

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#9 Post by MarleysGh0st » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:30 am

Winnamill wrote:Well, after reading that the tiebreaker will be time banked, that helps explain why he interrupted Meredith with the answers. However, I was trying to do projects while watching my tape and when he interrupted before the answers were all read, I could not play along as well. That made it a lot less fun as a viewer so I really hope this is not a trend. I don't have the best reception on my ancient TV even with cable so sitting in front of my tube may not have helped. If this starts happening all the time, it will suck a lot of fun out of the show for me.
You could tell that Meredith was really getting annoyed about it, even if she was (somewhat) making fun of it.

I wish he had been more straightforward about it in the discussion, though. Instead of saying that "there are a lot of people waiting to play," he should have said, "these are your rules, Meredith, that say that's my time on the clock!" That's doubly true now, since it counts for the ToT ranking in addition to banking time for the $1 million question.

And if TPTB realize it makes for bad TV, they can make a very simple change to the rules so that TDC doesn't start until after Meredith has finished reading the answers!

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#10 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:06 am

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Winnamill wrote:Well, after reading that the tiebreaker will be time banked, that helps explain why he interrupted Meredith with the answers. However, I was trying to do projects while watching my tape and when he interrupted before the answers were all read, I could not play along as well. That made it a lot less fun as a viewer so I really hope this is not a trend. I don't have the best reception on my ancient TV even with cable so sitting in front of my tube may not have helped. If this starts happening all the time, it will suck a lot of fun out of the show for me.
You could tell that Meredith was really getting annoyed about it, even if she was (somewhat) making fun of it.

I wish he had been more straightforward about it in the discussion, though. Instead of saying that "there are a lot of people waiting to play," he should have said, "these are your rules, Meredith, that say that's my time on the clock!" That's doubly true now, since it counts for the ToT ranking in addition to banking time for the $1 million question.

And if TPTB realize it makes for bad TV, they can make a very simple change to the rules so that TDC doesn't start until after Meredith has finished reading the answers!
I agree only this far -- that the clock should not start until the answers have been read. I even thought this contestant was funny with his brusque, rapid-fire approach -- at first. He carried it much too far, however, and before long, what had been amusing at the beginning started to seem not only annoying, but downright rude. The rudeness was extended beyond Meredith and the producers all the way to the viewing audience. Like Winnamill, I was not in position to see the answer choices. The choices weren't necessary for the questions so far, but I would have liked to have known (before I saw the transcript) what the writers might have used as distractors, and I am sure that many people in the viewing audience, particularly sight-impaired BAM fans, became annoyed much sooner than I did. I do not grant any contestant the right to say, in effect, "This is MY time in the hot seat, so screw the rest of you."

The job of TPTB is to put on a television show, including a little bit of entertainment and a lot of game that was designed to have a play-along-at-home component. If the contestant is not willing to buy into that concept, even to the point of maintaining minimal politeness, then he or she loses my good will.
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#11 Post by MarleysGh0st » Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:16 am

silvercamaro wrote:I do not grant any contestant the right to say, in effect, "This is MY time in the hot seat, so screw the rest of you."
I agree that it came off as appearing rude and that it takes away from the audience's experience, not having time to even read or hear the choices. But, again, these are the rules that TPTB have set. Must a contestant shoot himself in the foot because the producers tell him that this perfectly legal obedience to their rules doesn't look good?*

Change the rules, TPTB!



*And I agree that, in general, this could be a dangerous strategy for contestants to follow, with the risk of jumping to an incorrect answer before fully considering all the options. But it's still a situation of TPTB's creation.

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#12 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:01 am

I really enjoyed the guy at first, too.

As it went along, we started getting a sense that Meredith was getting PO'd.

BUT, I can't tell if she really was or we were projecting our feelings, as we were getting annoyed. I wondered if the strategy was going to bite him. It may yet.

It seemed to us that the audience was going crazy, though. Boonie thought that might be because he followed the young lady who might have frustrated the audience.

Boonie also made the comment that Meredith is a fine actress.

She had a completely straight face for the Catcher in the Rye and Sect. of the Treasury questions, which she certainly knows, plus -- if she was getting annoyed with Alan Carver, it didn't show for the camera.

We were both able to watch but I can see how he would take a lot of the enjoyment out of it for people who can't see the TV.

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#13 Post by Bob78164 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:04 am

silvercamaro wrote:I agree only this far -- that the clock should not start until the answers have been read. I even thought this contestant was funny with his brusque, rapid-fire approach -- at first. He carried it much too far, however, and before long, what had been amusing at the beginning started to seem not only annoying, but downright rude. The rudeness was extended beyond Meredith and the producers all the way to the viewing audience. Like Winnamill, I was not in position to see the answer choices. The choices weren't necessary for the questions so far, but I would have liked to have known (before I saw the transcript) what the writers might have used as distractors, and I am sure that many people in the viewing audience, particularly sight-impaired BAM fans, became annoyed much sooner than I did. I do not grant any contestant the right to say, in effect, "This is MY time in the hot seat, so screw the rest of you."

The job of TPTB is to put on a television show, including a little bit of entertainment and a lot of game that was designed to have a play-along-at-home component. If the contestant is not willing to buy into that concept, even to the point of maintaining minimal politeness, then he or she loses my good will.
Shinycar, I'd like to be sure I'm clear about what you're saying here. Are you saying that Alan should have allowed precious seconds tick off the clock at the possible detriment of his game situation in order to enhance the experience for the viewing audience?

If so, I've gotta say that I agree wholeheartedly with Marley -- it is entirely the problem of the producers, and not the contestant's issue at all. It's the producers' job to design a game in which both the common and best modes of game play (if they are different) provide an entertaining viewer experience. It's the contestant's job to play the game as well as he possibly can.

Last week, Jeopardy! broadcast its very first Alex Trebek episode. As you may know, in the first season, the rules were different. Rather than being forced to wait until Alex finished reading, the contestants were permitted to buzz in as soon as the clue was revealed. This led to two problems -- (a) an annoying sound effect interrupting the read of the question, and (b) dead time while contestants who buzzed in quickly realized that they didn't know the answer. The solution wasn't for contestants to change their game play. It was for the producers to change the rules, which they did.

If you're referring to Alan's apparent lack of grace between questions, I'm willing to cut him some slack here for a couple of reasons. First, I do think he was at least trying to play for some humor points. But comedy is hard in the best of circumstances and leaves little margin for error, particularly on television. Someone who tries but misses by just a little bit usually comes off as either stupid or boorish. Second, based on the audience reaction, I infer that Alan's shtick came off pretty well in person. Basically, he's playing a Klingon. He's just not as good at it as is Michael Dorn. --Bob
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#14 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:36 pm

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Shinycar, I'd like to be sure I'm clear about what you're saying here. Are you saying that Alan should have allowed precious seconds tick off the clock at the possible detriment of his game situation in order to enhance the experience for the viewing audience?
I'm saying that I hold individuals responsible for their own good manners and responsible behavior. If someone wishes to be on a television game show, that person should be willing to follow the rules of polite civilization. If a contestant will not or cannot do that, the producers should have the prerogative, in my opinion, to withhold the airing of that segment and prize money that might otherwise have been won. Why? Because it's their show and their money. No one is "entitled" to appear or win anything.

I honestly do not care about the Tournament of 10 standings, as that is nothing more than an artificial ratings gimmick. If there is a million-dollar winner at the end of it all, I would not consider that person a "real" winner with the same appreciation I offer to the people who legitimately answered "15 questions of increasing difficulty."
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#15 Post by Jeemie » Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:59 pm

silvercamaro wrote:I honestly do not care about the Tournament of 10 standings...
You may not care, but the contestants sure do.

That said...there are ways to interrupt that aren't quite as tactless.
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