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Re: QOD Sunday 12/9 "WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED"

#26 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:05 pm

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1. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, this band gave financial help to the 1992 Lithuanian basketball team so they could participate in the Olympics. The team won the bronze medal and honoured their sponsor with their uniforms. What is the name of this band?
Nope
2. Chris Ford was a member of what team when he made the NBA’s first three point shot in 1979?
The Celtics
3. This guard, known as Mr. Clutch, is the player silhouetted in the NBA logo and was named one of the 50 greatest basketball players of all time.
Jerry West
4. Led by Clyde the Glide Drexler and Akeem the Dream Olajuwan, which university’s men’s basketball team was nicknamed Phi Slamma Jamma?


The University of Houston
5. I love Rick Barry for many things. For living in Colorado Springs, for siring Jon Barry, but, most of all, I love him for his granny shot. What is a granny shot?
An underhanded set shot, wherein the shooter brings the ball between his or her legs before swinging up and releasing. Most often, but not necessarily, used for Free Throw attempts.
QOD: When David Thompson and Monte Towe were together at North Carolina State, dunking was not allowed. Taking advantage of Towe’s diminutive stature and Thompson’s jumping ability, they originated one of basketball’s most popular moves, which they later reprised as Denver Nugget teammates. You know it, you love it, Marv Albert thinks it’s fun to say, what move is it?
Alley Oop
5 Point Bonus: What was David Thompson’s nickname (a 1970’s movie reference inspired by his incredible hang time leaps)?
Skywalker
5 Point Bonus Bonus: Before David Thompson took his (now retired) number 33, he had a number (destined to be retired itself) that now belongs to what current Denver Nugget?
Allen Iverson (It could be Melo, but I think it's too early to say his number is destined to be retired).
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Re: QOD Sunday 12/9 "WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED"

#27 Post by JBillyGirl » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:47 pm

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I demand a figure skating QOD.

1. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, this band gave financial help to the 1992 Lithuanian basketball team so they could participate in the Olympics. The team won the bronze medal and honoured their sponsor with their uniforms. What is the name of this band? --The Grateful Dead? I think I remember they wore tie-dye uniforms. Cool.

2. Chris Ford was a member of what team when he made the NBA’s first three point shot in 1979? -- WAG LA Lakers

3. This guard, known as Mr. Clutch, is the player silhouetted in the NBA logo and was named one of the 50 greatest basketball players of all time. -- I think his first name begins with J, but it's not coming to me.

4. Led by Clyde the Glide Drexler and Akeem the Dream Olajuwan, which university’s men’s basketball team was nicknamed Phi Slamma Jamma? -- WAG Syracuse?

5. I love Rick Barry for many things. For living in Colorado Springs, for siring Jon Barry, but, most of all, I love him for his granny shot. What is a granny shot? -- I think I saw an article about this once; is it an underhand free throw made from a squat?

QOD: When David Thompson and Monte Towe were together at North Carolina State, dunking was not allowed. Taking advantage of Towe’s diminutive stature and Thompson’s jumping ability, they originated one of basketball’s most popular moves, which they later reprised as Denver Nugget teammates. You know it, you love it, Marv Albert thinks it’s fun to say, what move is it? -- I want to guess "alley-oop" or maybe "rope-a-dope," but I don't know, so I'll pass.

(Please don't overthink this and then knock yourself out trying to disprove it. I'm sure that at sometime in the history of the world, a basketball did this before the 70's and two people were present at the time. But they are credited with 'inventing' the move as it is today with a name and everything. And my source is David Thompson himself.)

5 Point Bonus: What was David Thompson’s nickname (a 1970’s movie reference inspired by his incredible hang time leaps)? -- nope

5 Point Bonus Bonus: Before David Thompson took his (now retired) number 33, he had a number (destined to be retired itself) that now belongs to what current Denver Nugget? -- nope-a-dope

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Re: QOD Sunday 12/9 "WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED"

#28 Post by fantine33 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:12 am

Appa23 wrote:
fantine33 wrote:
(Please don't overthink this and then knock yourself out trying to disprove it. I'm sure that at sometime in the history of the world, a basketball did this before the 70's and two people were present at the time. But they are credited with 'inventing' the move as it is today with a name and everything. And my source is David Thompson himself.)
appa23 wrote:QOD: they used the alley-oop (not sure they originated it)
Did you just skip over the parenthetical caveat or could you just not help yourself?




appa23 wrote:
fantine33 wrote:
5 Point Bonus Bonus: Before David Thompson took his (now retired) number 33, he had a number (destined to be retired itself) that now belongs to what current Denver Nugget?
appa23 wrote:
Bonus Bonus: You have confused me. How can a curretn Nugget wear a number that has been retired ("destined to be retired itself). He wore 44 at NC State, but no current Nugget wears that number, b/c it was retired for Dan Issel. Are you trying to predict that the Nuggets will retire Carmelo Anthony's number?
I confused you on the meaning of destined?

"Adj. 1. destined - headed or intending to head in a certain direction"

I would definitely say that Carmelo Anthony is heading in that direction.

Or you were just being disingenuous

"Adj. 1. disingenuous - not straightforward or candid; giving a false appearance of frankness"

in order to set up the rest of your paragraph? I don't need you to tell me no current Nugget has 44 because Dan Issel's number is retired, I see it in the rafters every time I go to The Can (my entire family loves that, perhaps we are easily amused) and, before that, McNichols. Which has nothing to do with it anyway, since I did not ask what David Thompson's number was in college.

Dan Issel also had a different number before he took his (now retired) 44. But the one name most non-Nuggets fans recognize doesn't wear it, so I didn't use that as a question. (It will be interesting if you can find out what it is. I just tried and found it quickly, but I used additional information.)

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Re: QOD Sunday 12/9 "WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED"

#29 Post by fantine33 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:39 am

WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED

1. After the breakup of the Soviet Union, this band gave financial help to the 1992 Lithuanian basketball team so they could participate in the Olympics. The team won the bronze medal and honoured their sponsor with their uniforms. What is the name of this band?

THE GRATEFUL DEAD

Sarunas Marciulionis was friends with the band when he played in Golden State. (He was my favourite player when he was with the Nuggets). As many either knew or surmised, their uniforms were green and yellow tie dye in tribute. And Lithuanians are still rocking the tie dye. The Lithuanian contingent that shows up to cheer Linas Kleiza always has on tie dye t-shirts.

2. Chris Ford was a member of what team when he made the NBA’s first three point shot in 1979?

BOSTON CELTICS

As many of you have picked up on already, when I ask for a basketball team, when in doubt, say the Celtics.

3. This guard, known as Mr. Clutch, is the player silhouetted in the NBA logo and was named one of the 50 greatest basketball players of all time.

JERRY WEST

4. Led by Clyde the Glide Drexler and Akeem the Dream Olajuwan, which university’s men’s basketball team was nicknamed Phi Slamma Jamma?

UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON


I did not know about Olajuwon's daughter. Annie gets special "you taught me something" points.

The funniest commercial I ever remember on the radio was for 7-11 back when the Rockets were something. He was still Akeem sans H at that point. The commercial was for 7-11 coffee and two of the lines were

"Did you want small, medium or Olajuwon?" and "Do you take Akeem with that?" Ha!

5. I love Rick Barry for many things. For living in Colorado Springs, for siring Jon Barry, but, most of all, I love him for his granny shot. What is a granny shot?

I think it's specifically an underhanded free throw shot with both hands from the knees, but I accepted anything that said underhanded or was close to it. I should have just pasted in Mini's answer, she pretty much covered it.

QOD: When David Thompson and Monte Towe were together at North Carolina State, dunking was not allowed. Taking advantage of Towe’s diminutive stature and Thompson’s jumping ability, they originated one of basketball’s most popular moves, which they later reprised as Denver Nugget teammates. You know it, you love it, Marv Albert thinks it’s fun to say, what move is it?

ALLEY OOP

I still have an autograph page with David Thompson and Monte Towe's signatures on it. Thompson wrote really big in the upper corner and Towe's writing was small and on the bottom. I don't know if that was coincidence or by design.

5 Point Bonus: What was David Thompson’s nickname (a 1970’s movie reference inspired by his incredible hang time leaps)?

SKYWALKER

Proof that things do not always go better with Coke.

You saw that, mrkelley? I know he used to say he could grab a quarter and leave two dimes and a nickel, but I didn't know whether he had actually done it (I was a youngster at the time). You are now my source. Ha!

I do know that Dwight Howard and his little sticker incident in the dunk contest at the All-Star game was no big whoop to Nuggets fans.

I was standing next to David Thompson last year in Altitude Authentics (the store in the arena). None of my family believed me when I got back to my seat and then before the game started they pointed him out in the crowd and played a montage of him on the jumbotron (set to "Simply the Best", of course). I had tears by the time it was over, he was a thing of beauty.

5 Point Bonus Bonus: Before David Thompson took his (now retired) number 33, he had a number (destined to be retired itself) that now belongs to what current Denver Nugget?[/quote]

CARMELO ANTHONY


Unlike Dan Issel, I have no idea why David Thompson changed to 33. I didn't even know it until a couple years ago my Mom drug out her old ABA programs to show the kids and he was listed with #15. The best part of the 70's programs? Ads for Lyle Alzado's Disco Nightclub!

I meant this to be relatively easy, which is why I put in the 'destined to be retired itself' thing, showing that it wasn't some bench scrub, but a player a lot of non-fans would know. Barring injury or circumstances, it will be retired. You can tell he's greatness, it's like an invisible cloak. (I always thought Larry Bird's had the best jump shot I ever saw, until the first time I saw Carmelo in person.)

That being said, I didn't even think of Iverson! I guess I didn't consider that his number would be retired as a Nugget, although it probably will (they retired Ray Bourque and he was just with the Avalanche for a cup of coffee and a cup of Stanley), because he wouldn't be with them for enough years. But, even though he's getting up there, he's little and wiry so he probably has a lot of years left in him (he played 48 the other night). I hope so, because I am definitely drinking the AI kool-aid.

Quiz QOD Bonus Total
50 50 5 105 andrewjackson
50 50 5 105 appa
50 50 5 105 earendel
40 40 10 90 confessor
40 40 10 90 mrkelley
40 40 10 90 ne1410s
40 40 5 85 Calvinator
40 40 5 85 nelly
40 40 5 85 ToLiveIsToFly
30 30 0 60 dadoftwins
30 30 0 60 littlebeast
30 30 0 60 mikehardware
30 30 0 60 seersucker
30 30 0 60 tanstaafl
40 0 5 45 minimetoo
40 0 0 40 nitrah
20 20 0 40 trevor macfee
30 0 5 35 AnnieCamaro
30 0 0 30 peacock
30 0 0 30 traininvain
10 10 5 25 kayrharris
20 0 0 20 jbillygirl
10 10 0 20 KillerTomato
0 0 0 0 kittyfish
0 0 0 0 saucy

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#30 Post by mrkelley23 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:51 am

I don't consider myself much of a pro basketball fan, but I did watch a lot of ABA ball back in the 70s, because of the novelty of Indiana actually having a pro team in something. It's still etched in my (growingly faulty) memory: the Afros! the patriotic ball! "Three to make 2" (Which we adapted for playground play) The three-point shot (sacrilege! But we loved it)! Rick Mount!

David Thompson amazed me, but not as much as Dr. J. I watched him leap from the free throw line and dunk in a game, then went out to the back yard and stood at the free throw line (painstakingly measured and marked) and considered what I had just seen a human being do. Shook my head and walked back inside to watch the rest of the game.
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#31 Post by fantine33 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:56 am

mrkelley23 wrote:David Thompson amazed me, but not as much as Dr. J. I watched him leap from the free throw line and dunk in a game, then went out to the back yard and stood at the free throw line (painstakingly measured and marked) and considered what I had just seen a human being do. Shook my head and walked back inside to watch the rest of the game.
He might have done that for the first time in the All-Star game in Denver when he beat Thompson. I still remember his 'fro flopping in the breeze during his running start.

I forgot to add when commenting on your answer: Thompson was 6-4 on a good day if he was lucky. Iverson is another shorty that has a crazy good vertical leap (no Skywalker, but who is?).

NBATV shows old games before the season starts, to fill up programming, I guess. A couple months ago, they showed the last game of the ABA (the finals game between the Nuggets and the Nets). Larry Brown in burnt orange elephant bells was worth the price of admission.

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Re: QOD Sunday 12/9 "WHERE SHORT SHORTS HAPPENED"

#32 Post by Appa23 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:20 pm

fantine33 wrote:
appa23 wrote:
fantine33 wrote:
5 Point Bonus Bonus: Before David Thompson took his (now retired) number 33, he had a number (destined to be retired itself) that now belongs to what current Denver Nugget?
As I mentioned Carmelo Anthony, 5 points, please. :D

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#33 Post by Appa23 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:19 pm

"Unlike Dan Issel, I have no idea why David Thompson changed to 33. I didn't even know it until a couple years ago my Mom drug out her old ABA programs to show the kids and he was listed with #15. "

Every roster that I found online for the 1975-76 Nuggets, which was his rookie year and the last year of the ABA, shows Thompson wearing #33. Every photo from that year shows Thompson wearing 33.

Jimmy Foster is listed as #15 on the Nuggets roster, which makes sense since he wore that number for the Spirits of St. Louis in 1974-75.

For what it is worth.

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#34 Post by fantine33 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:51 pm

Appa23 wrote:Bonus Bonus: You have confused me. How can a curretn Nugget wear a number that has been retired ("destined to be retired itself). He wore 44 at NC State, but no current Nugget wears that number, b/c it was retired for Dan Issel. Are you trying to predict that the Nuggets will retire Carmelo Anthony's number?

As I mentioned Carmelo Anthony, 5 points, please. :D
You also mentioned Dan Issel. But you horsed (ha!) around so long expounding that you never actually answered it. :D
Every roster that I found online for the 1975-76 Nuggets, which was his rookie year and the last year of the ABA, shows Thompson wearing #33. Every photo from that year shows Thompson wearing 33.

Jimmy Foster is listed as #15 on the Nuggets roster, which makes sense since he wore that number for the Spirits of St. Louis in 1974-75.

For what it is worth.
First off, I love the fact that you actually looked up ABA rosters on this. Secondly, it's not worth anything, because you can't prove a negative.

I remember at the time we discovered this, I looked around a little bit to try and find out why he changed it and couldn't find anything. And I know it was #15, because we had a discussion on it being weird that the number belonging to someone who has the potential to be the greatest Nugget ever was once worn (however briefly) by the man who used to have the potential to be the greatest Nugget ever.

So, between believing that something isn't true because I can't find it on the internet and believing what I read with my own eyes in a 30 year old ABA game program, I'll take the latter. Which one you take doesn't really concern me (or you either, probably, since I can't imagine you really caring about former or current Nuggets jersey numbers other than to prove that somebody is wrong).

If we were actually putting money on this, I'd prove it. But I can't really be arsed enough to have my mom dig it out, scan it, etc. just to be able to give a HA ha (like in the Simpsons).

I'm watching AI at the post game press conference and he said to tell HoltDad that Carmelo is the shiz and to put that in his hat and block it. (I'm paraphrasing, of course. Ha!)

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#35 Post by fantine33 » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:59 pm

Appa23 wrote:Every roster that I found online for the 1975-76 Nuggets, which was his rookie year and the last year of the ABA, shows Thompson wearing #33. Every photo from that year shows Thompson wearing 33.

Jimmy Foster is listed as #15 on the Nuggets roster, which makes sense since he wore that number for the Spirits of St. Louis in 1974-75.

For what it is worth.
You know what? I was reading this over after I posted because, even though I preview, I always miss a mistake. And something just occurred to me. You might have inadvertantly given me the reason for the change. I have no freaking idea who Jimmy Foster is (I doubt you do either, but if you actually do, you might have an idea on this) but if he cried like a little girl because he wanted his old number (or paid DT to give it up) maybe that would explain why the the switch was made to 33.

Also, because I just can't give it up, every photo YOU FOUND ON THE INTERNET shows Thompson wearing 33. Doesn't mean none exist. I don't have any, I'm just saying.

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#36 Post by Appa23 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:28 am

fantine33 wrote: You know what? I was reading this over after I posted because, even though I preview, I always miss a mistake. And something just occurred to me. You might have inadvertantly given me the reason for the change. I have no freaking idea who Jimmy Foster is (I doubt you do either, but if you actually do, you might have an idea on this) but if he cried like a little girl because he wanted his old number (or paid DT to give it up) maybe that would explain why the the switch was made to 33.

Also, because I just can't give it up, every photo YOU FOUND ON THE INTERNET shows Thompson wearing 33. Doesn't mean none exist. I don't have any, I'm just saying.
Just to complete this thread, I will note that Jimmy Foster joined the Nuggets in a trade before the 1975-76 season. Concurrently, the Nuggets traded away the player, Pat McFarland, who wore #15 the previous season. Hence, all facts and logic point to Foster wearing #15 the entire season.

However, I did learn a few things. I had not realized that Issel did change from #25 to #44 during his playing career with the Nuggets. #44 was taken by Ralph Simpson when Issel and DT joined the Nuggets, so it was not avaialble for either player. Makes sense why DT decided to just change from his college number of 44 to 33 when he joined Denver.

Have a good day, Fannie.

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#37 Post by fantine33 » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:57 am

Appa23 wrote: Just to complete this thread, (blah, blah, blah)

However, I did learn a few things. I had not realized that Issel did change from #25 to #44 during his playing career with the Nuggets. #44 was taken by Ralph Simpson when Issel and DT joined the Nuggets, so it was not avaialble for either player.
Wow! You're really telling me something there! Since I already said that the other day. But I really didn't think you'd take the time to look for it. Sad that you couldn't prove me wrong on that?

Appa23 wrote:Makes sense why DT decided to just change from his college number of 44 to 33 when he joined Denver.
I take back the nice things I said to you in my previous post.

Just to complete this thread, you're an ass. But I really do believe that you can't help yourself, that it's pathological. Why else would somebody put so much time and effort into something?

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