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by peacock2121 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:42 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:peacock2121 wrote: Faction - wtf?
really, what the fuck!?
Lighten up, pea.
We're debating an issue, trivial as it may or may not be, and while there may be a hundred BBs expressing two hundred different opinions, I'm just saying there are, in general, loosely defined, approximately two different sides to the opinions here.
Look the word up, Marley.
If you didn't mean it as defined, what did you mean?
If you meant it as defined, I am insulted and will not lighten up.
That is, until I do lighten up.
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by peacock2121 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:44 am
And, I have stated it is Dave's choice.
faction my ass
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by sunflower » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:45 am
SportsFan68 wrote:Marley wrote:
We're debating an issue, trivial as it may or may not be, and while there may be a hundred BBs expressing two hundred different opinions, I'm just saying there are, in general, loosely defined, approximately two different sides to the opinions here.
I believe (it is my humble opinion that) there are two more in general and loosely defined, and equally valid, sides:
1. The group which doesn't care at all.
2. The group which cares only insofar as there is an opportunity for smartassery.
I believe there is a third:
3. The group that knows that Hello Kitty fixes everything...and that diverse types can all co-exist peacefully!!

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by MarleysGh0st » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:50 am
SportsFan68 wrote:Marley wrote:
We're debating an issue, trivial as it may or may not be, and while there may be a hundred BBs expressing two hundred different opinions, I'm just saying there are, in general, loosely defined, approximately two different sides to the opinions here.
I believe (it is my humble opinion that) there are two more in general and loosely defined, and equally valid, sides:
1. The group which doesn't care at all.
2. The group which cares only insofar as there is an opportunity for smartassery.
OK, I'll stop the sarcasm.
The resolution you suggest--removing certain individuals from the list of moderators--is one option.
Another option is to leave them as moderators (possibly adding you or someone else to the moderator list to look over their shoulders in the Internal Affairs capacity) and trust that they will take the recent criticism to heart.
As pea said yesterday:
Maybe forgive all the past nonsense they have done and start with a clean slate.
This second option does leave open the possibility that certain moderators will still use their power in a way that will open them to further tongue lashing at some future time. It is, therefore, not as final a resolution as the first option. IMHO, it is also less punitive or retaliatory or judgemental of the relative worth of any moderators or moderation than the fist option.
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by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:50 am
Sisyphean Fan wrote:
I vote for party!
With no moderation. Because when it's time to party, party hard.
Second the motion!
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-- America would be a better place if leaders would do more long-term thinking. -- Wilma Mankiller
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by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:53 am
Sisyphean Fan wrote:SportsFan68 wrote:MinisterOfPropaganda wrote:
As Minister of Propaganda, I am pleased with your speaking skills, and wish to offer you a job working for Big Brother....
I accept! Finally, a job utilizing my not inconsiderable talents and proclivities!
And if I could think of any, I'd substitute a bigger word for talents too!
How about loquacious?
Bingo!
(No, not BingoHardware. Although I would love to add a sterling citizen like him to my reference list.)
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by MarleysGh0st » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:56 am
peacock2121 wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:peacock2121 wrote: Faction - wtf?
really, what the fuck!?
Lighten up, pea.
We're debating an issue, trivial as it may or may not be, and while there may be a hundred BBs expressing two hundred different opinions, I'm just saying there are, in general, loosely defined, approximately two different sides to the opinions here.
Look the word up, Marley.
If you didn't mean it as defined, what did you mean?
If you meant it as defined, I am insulted and will not lighten up.
That is, until I do lighten up.
From
Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry:
fac·tion Listen to the pronunciation of faction
Pronunciation:
\ˈfak-shən\
Function:
noun
Etymology:
Middle French & Latin; Middle French, from Latin faction-, factio act of making, faction — more at fashion
Date:
1509
1 : a party or group (as within a government) that is often contentious or self-seeking : clique
2 : party spirit especially when marked by dissension
I did not mean it in the sense of definition 1: "often...self-seeking". If that offended you, I apologize for it. For the rest, has we not had dissension on this issue?
But enough. I'm done.
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by Sisyphean Fan » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:01 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:Another option is to leave them as moderators (possibly adding you or someone else to the moderator list to look over their shoulders in the Internal Affairs capacity) and trust that they will take the recent criticism to heart.
As pea said yesterday:
Maybe forgive all the past nonsense they have done and start with a clean slate.
This second option does leave open the possibility that certain moderators will still use their power in a way that will open them to further tongue lashing at some future time. It is, therefore, not as final a resolution as the first option.
IMHO, it is also less punitive or retaliatory or judgemental of the relative worth of any moderators or moderation than the fist option.
In my opinion, it's judgmental and insulting to add somebody with the express purpose of monitoring and policing their actions. If someone is to the point of having to have someone looking over their shoulder (your words) and having their every move tracked, then why are they in that position in the first place? (I'm not saying any of this applies to anybody/moderator here, just that you continually suggesting this and thinking that it's a good idea and a gracious solution really puzzles me.)
Although I do like the fist option. Ha!
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Sisyphean Fan on Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:03 am, edited 1 time in total.
Push it real good!
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by SportsFan68 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:02 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:This second option does leave open the possibility that certain moderators will still use their power in a way that will open them to further tongue lashing at some future time. It is, therefore, not as final a resolution as the first option. IMHO, it is also less punitive or retaliatory or judgemental of the relative worth of any moderators or moderation than the fist option.
This is where Marley and I agree to disagree.
I believe that eliminating the greenies contains no punitive or retaliatory aspects. It says, we have all the moderation we need in the form of the three brownies. That makes it the simplest and resolves all the discussion of the past couple days. And it does have the beauty of finality.
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by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:57 am
Just like throwing a bone to a hungry dog, isn't it?

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by littlebeast13 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:58 am
DevilKitty100 wrote:
Just like throwing a bone to a hungry dog, isn't it?

Dog?
You mean you're a dog and not a cat!?!?!?
And after all these years.... that's what I get for ASSuming too much......
lb13
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by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:00 pm
SportsFan68 wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:This second option does leave open the possibility that certain moderators will still use their power in a way that will open them to further tongue lashing at some future time. It is, therefore, not as final a resolution as the first option. IMHO, it is also less punitive or retaliatory or judgemental of the relative worth of any moderators or moderation than the fist option.
This is where Marley and I agree to disagree.
I believe that eliminating the greenies contains no punitive or retaliatory aspects. It says, we have all the moderation we need in the form of the three brownies. That makes it the simplest and resolves all the discussion of the past couple days. And it does have the beauty of finality.
For the serious part of this, I still suggest a rotation. Perhaps monthly, quarterly, semi-whatever. Why must all the eggs be in one basket?
I just want a turn for one little day.

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by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:01 pm
littlebeast13 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:
Just like throwing a bone to a hungry dog, isn't it?

Dog?
You mean you're a dog and not a cat!?!?!?
And after all these years.... that's what I get for ASSuming too much......
lb13
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
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by Fickle Finger Of WWTBAM » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:03 pm
DevilKitty100 wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:
Just like throwing a bone to a hungry dog, isn't it?

Dog?
You mean you're a dog and not a cat!?!?!?
And after all these years.... that's what I get for ASSuming too much......
lb13
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
I'll see your fickle and raise you a finger......
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by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:04 pm
DevilKitty100 wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:
Just like throwing a bone to a hungry dog, isn't it?

Dog?
You mean you're a dog and not a cat!?!?!?
And after all these years.... that's what I get for ASSuming too much......
lb13
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
And I'm trying to bitch my way back on the list.

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by littlebeast13 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:09 pm
DevilKitty100 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:
Dog?
You mean you're a dog and not a cat!?!?!?
And after all these years.... that's what I get for ASSuming too much......
lb13
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
And I'm trying to bitch my way back on the list.

Should I create a seperate rankings for Most Prodigious Bitchers?
I wonder how much it would vary from the regular list......
lb13
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by DevilKitty100 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:13 pm
littlebeast13 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
And I'm trying to bitch my way back on the list.

Should I create a seperate rankings for Most Prodigious Bitchers?
I wonder how much it would vary from the regular list......
lb13
LOL.....the queens would rule.......female.......and otherwise.
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by earendel » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:32 pm
littlebeast13 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:DevilKitty100 wrote:
I'm female. I'm fickle. Have you learned nothing here?
And I'm trying to bitch my way back on the list.

Should I create a seperate rankings for Most Prodigious Bitchers?
I wonder how much it would vary from the regular list......
lb13
Quite a bit - I figure I'd be pretty much near the bottom of that list.
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by Jeemie » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:29 pm
SportsFan68 wrote:This is where Marley and I agree to disagree.
I believe that eliminating the greenies contains no punitive or retaliatory aspects. It says, we have all the moderation we need in the form of the three brownies. That makes it the simplest and resolves all the discussion of the past couple days. And it does have the beauty of finality.
But greenies really give you that pep!!!
Of course, I love me my brownies too, man! Kills two birds with one stone (the buzz AND the munchies!)

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by Estonut » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:32 pm
Sisyphean Fan wrote:Although I do like the fist option. Ha!
The fist option sounds appropriate to me, too.
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by peacock2121 » Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:38 pm
Estonut wrote:Sisyphean Fan wrote:Although I do like the fist option. Ha!
The fist option sounds appropriate to me, too.
I prefer the foot option, myself.