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#26 Post by peacock2121 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:08 am

It is ugly out there.

It will get uglier and uglier.

I am already sick of the "truth-o-meter" stuff.

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#27 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:13 am

They just showed the Republican "lipstick smear" ad. I expect that's going to bite them in the ass. Makes them seem like crybabies.
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#28 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:42 am

Bob Juch wrote:They just showed the Republican "lipstick smear" ad. I expect that's going to bite them in the ass. Makes them seem like crybabies.
Totally disingenuous, especially when you consider that the Republicans have a history of sexist and degrading statements toward women. They don't have any problems referring to Hillary Clinton as "the bitch", Chelsea Clinton as a "dog" and "ugly", Michelle Obama as a "baby mama" who gives a "terrorist fist jab", Nancy Pelosi as "Mussolini in a skirt", or Teresa Kerry as a "scumbag"... and that's just scratching the surface.

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#29 Post by MarleysGh0st » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:44 am

franktangredi wrote: Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!
Of course not!

Those mad scientists over in Geneva are going to destroy the whole world when they turn on the LHC today. :roll:

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#30 Post by silvercamaro » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:46 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
franktangredi wrote: Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!
Of course not!

Those mad scientists over in Geneva are going to destroy the whole world when they turn on the LHC today. :roll:
They did already. As best as I can determine, no reports have emerged of the Alps disintegrating.

The test was successful, according to a spokesman for the project.

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#31 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:50 am

I don't think that the Lipstick on a Pig line was meant as a swipe at Governor Palin. Personally, I don't think Senator Obama is that stupid.
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#32 Post by Jeemie » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:54 am

franktangredi wrote:Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!
No- it'll take a little longer and a lot more cooperation from all parts of government to do that.
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#33 Post by Jeemie » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:55 am

silvercamaro wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
franktangredi wrote: Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!
Of course not!

Those mad scientists over in Geneva are going to destroy the whole world when they turn on the LHC today. :roll:
They did already. As best as I can determine, no reports have emerged of the Alps disintegrating.

The test was successful, according to a spokesman for the project.
All they did was send a stream of protons around the accelerator.

They haven't slammed two streams into each other yet- and even then it might be four years before we noticed anything- just in time for 2012!
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#34 Post by danielh41 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:57 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I don't think that the Lipstick on a Pig line was meant as a swipe at Governor Palin. Personally, I don't think Senator Obama is that stupid.
No, I didn't think Obama was referring to Palin as a pig when I first saw that story. But given Palin's prominent use of the word lipstick in her RNC speech, the crowd listening to Obama sure picked up on it. And using the phrase after that RNC speech shows poor judgement on the part of Obama...
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#35 Post by Iben Browning » Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:58 am

Jeemie wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote: Of course not!

Those mad scientists over in Geneva are going to destroy the whole world when they turn on the LHC today. :roll:
They did already. As best as I can determine, no reports have emerged of the Alps disintegrating.

The test was successful, according to a spokesman for the project.
All they did was send a stream of protons around the accelerator.

They haven't slammed two streams into each other yet- and even then it might be four years before we noticed anything- just in time for 2012!

I'm going to have to write this down in my planner: Make disaster prediction for 2012...

Er, given recent success, better make that 2030.... YES!
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#36 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:03 am

silvercamaro wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
franktangredi wrote: Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!
Of course not!

Those mad scientists over in Geneva are going to destroy the whole world when they turn on the LHC today. :roll:
They did already. As best as I can determine, no reports have emerged of the Alps disintegrating.
Now hold on just a minute. Just because somebody has seen the Alps sitting there doesn't mean that they haven't been sucked into the LHC black hole. When one is standing a safe distance from the gravitational forces of a black hole, anything within the event horizon appears to the safe observer to be "frozen in time" since light has nowhere to go but into the black hole.

Black holes are not a subject you would ever expect to hear me, Reverend Fireball the gospel gangsta, discuss, eh? :P

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#37 Post by gsabc » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:06 am

Utter nonsense. Simply another attempt by the Republicans to deflect attention from their agenda and the actions and voting records of their candidates into meaningless crap. Unfortunately, the media meekly comply, and the public laps it up. We get the government we deserve.

They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson. The interview will be worthless, though, because I'm sure she'll do what McCain did in a recent US News & World Report Q&A session - shift every question to subjects she wants to talk about, or that the RNC wants her to, without answering what was asked. I keep waiting for one of these interviewers to just come out and say, or even interrupt, "That's fine, Candidate, but it doesn't answer the question I asked. I've got all day and the tape can be edited for time. Now, {and repeat the original question}"
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#38 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:16 am

gsabc wrote:
They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson.
Sarah Palin has been the most visible "sequestered" person in history the last two weeks.

If you want to see someone who's disappeared from sight, try finding Joe Biden in the news sometime.

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#39 Post by BackInTex » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:23 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
gsabc wrote:
They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson.
Sarah Palin has been the most visible "sequestered" person in history the last two weeks.

If you want to see someone who's disappeared from sight, try finding Joe Biden in the news sometime.
The guys on the radio found him. They played an interview with him where he said electing Palin as VP would be "a step back for women".

Sometimes I wonder who's campaign he is working for.
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#40 Post by Appa23 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:24 am

danielh41 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:I don't think that the Lipstick on a Pig line was meant as a swipe at Governor Palin. Personally, I don't think Senator Obama is that stupid.
No, I didn't think Obama was referring to Palin as a pig when I first saw that story. But given Palin's prominent use of the word lipstick in her RNC speech, the crowd listening to Obama sure picked up on it. And using the phrase after that RNC speech shows poor judgement on the part of Obama...
This is right on target.

It does not matter what Obama meant. "Perception is reality."

It am enjoying some BBs on this Bored trying to argue that voters should not interpret things as they do.

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#41 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:26 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
gsabc wrote:
They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson.
Sarah Palin has been the most visible "sequestered" person in history the last two weeks.

If you want to see someone who's disappeared from sight, try finding Joe Biden in the news sometime.
Biden was in Philadelphia on Monday.

Palin hasn't left McCain's side until today.
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#42 Post by gsabc » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:27 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
gsabc wrote:
They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson.
Sarah Palin has been the most visible "sequestered" person in history the last two weeks.

If you want to see someone who's disappeared from sight, try finding Joe Biden in the news sometime.
Because he's a known quantity, and therefore not "news".

Sure, you get coverage of Palin, unknown to just about everyone outside of Alaska until last week. She's been attached at the hip to McCain. Never alone. Never answering questions of substance. You don't think that every non-public moment isn't spent preparing her for real interviews and unplanned questions with on-the-fly answers needed?
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#43 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:36 am

BackInTex wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
gsabc wrote:
They've been sequestering Palin from any real interviews for a week now, almost certainly giving her intense training on major issues, down to how to raise an eyebrow at appropriate times, for every waking, non-speechifying moment right up to the time she enters the ABC studios for that interview with Charles Gibson.
Sarah Palin has been the most visible "sequestered" person in history the last two weeks.

If you want to see someone who's disappeared from sight, try finding Joe Biden in the news sometime.
The guys on the radio found him. They played an interview with him where he said electing Palin as VP would be "a step back for women".

Sometimes I wonder who's campaign he is working for.
Well, I'd sure like to see you or some other Republican try to prove that Biden's statement is wrong. I've looked at McCain's record and Palin's record and have seen that they're against everything that women have fought for since Seneca Falls.

Women's rights will be going backward under a McCain/Palin administration. Take that to the bank.

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#44 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:55 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: Women's rights will be going backward under a McCain/Palin administration. Take that to the bank.
As opposed to the wonderful treatment they have received at the hands of Obama?

Obama isn't interested in feminism or women's rights. He's interested in using the threat of Roe v. Wade to try to hold the liberal/moderate women's vote hostage.

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#45 Post by Jeemie » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:36 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Well, I'd sure like to see you or some other Republican try to prove that Biden's statement is wrong. I've looked at McCain's record and Palin's record and have seen that they're against everything that women have fought for since Seneca Falls.

Women's rights will be going backward under a McCain/Palin administration. Take that to the bank.
You have it on record somewhere that McCain and Palin want to revert back to the conditions that were listed in the Declaration of Sentiments?
These grievances reflected the severe limitations on women's legal rights in America at this time: women could not vote; they could not participate in the creation of laws that they had to obey; their property was taxed. Further, in the relatively unusual case of a divorce, custody of children was virtually automatically awarded to the father; access to the professions and higher education generally was closed to women; and most churches barred women from participating publicly in the ministry or other positions of authority.
Please provide evidence that these are the conditions McCain and Palin want women to have to endure again.

Not that I expect a response. You rarely, if ever, post back when your ridiculous over-the-top statements are called out.
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#46 Post by BackInTex » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:43 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Well, I'd sure like to see you or some other Republican try to prove that Biden's statement is wrong. I've looked at McCain's record and Palin's record and have seen that they're against everything that women have fought for since Seneca Falls.
You need a nice big cup of Joe and lay off the Jack.


I'm sure there are more than 30 things women have fought for since Seneca Falls.

Name 5 that McCain's and Palin's record indicate they are against. I'm not asking you to do any additional research. You've already stated you looked at the records. Just write them down for us. What things are you refering to?
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#47 Post by Rosey Lipstick » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:48 am

Obama, ridiculing the McCain/Palin’s new "change" mantra, said,
"You can put lipstick on a pig. "It's still a pig.You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."
All I got say is, Obama better stay out of the water.
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#48 Post by hf_jai » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:50 am

Jeemie wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Well, I'd sure like to see you or some other Republican try to prove that Biden's statement is wrong. I've looked at McCain's record and Palin's record and have seen that they're against everything that women have fought for since Seneca Falls.

Women's rights will be going backward under a McCain/Palin administration. Take that to the bank.
You have it on record somewhere that McCain and Palin want to revert back to the conditions that were listed in the Declaration of Sentiments?
These grievances reflected the severe limitations on women's legal rights in America at this time: women could not vote; they could not participate in the creation of laws that they had to obey; their property was taxed. Further, in the relatively unusual case of a divorce, custody of children was virtually automatically awarded to the father; access to the professions and higher education generally was closed to women; and most churches barred women from participating publicly in the ministry or other positions of authority.
Please provide evidence that these are the conditions McCain and Palin want women to have to endure again.

Not that I expect a response. You rarely, if ever, post back when your ridiculous over-the-top statements are called out.
BJ's remark may have been hyperbole, but Joe Biden is correct about Palin being a step backwards for women in this country.

I also agree with SSS that Obama has no real appreciation of or interest in women's rights, but at least he would bring people into office who do.

A presidency is much more than the individual we vote for.

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#49 Post by minimetoo26 » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:54 am

I saw the header and wondered; "Just what the Hell is Beebs doing to those poor feral pigs NOW?!?!" but discovered it's just more of the same old, same old.

Surprisingly, after all these years of nonsense, I still respect the intelligence of everyone here enough to just stay out of it all. The only thing that has surprised me is sss's about-face into supporting someone he KNOWS is wrong rather than someone who MAY be wrong, but the rest I can just fill in the blanks when I see who it is who is posting.

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#50 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:54 am

My lipstick story. I'm out to dinner with Ms. Tmitsss. I see a poorly groomed woman with tatoos and I make a comparison to lipstick on a pig and turn back to the Ms and see that she is touching up her lipstick, and is NOT smiling. Karma can be a bit....
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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