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Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 4:08 pm
by mrkelley23
A while back, there was a discussion here about which BBs were on which teams, or tribes, when it comes to politics. Someone, I think it was BiT, said that I belonged with the lefties/liberals/woke label (I don't remember which one was being used) but that I would argue or disagree. Back then, I would have said that I would prefer to focus on what unites us, rather than divides us. But I think that time has finally passed.

If you're on the team that claims to love the First Amendment to the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely threatens, files lawsuits, has his secret police detain or even murder people for exercising that right, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that claims to oppose corruption, but turns a blind eye when Dear Leader invades a country, steals its oil, sells it, then transfers it to an offshore account that he has direct control over, I'm on the other team. That's not even counting the other corrupt acts, which are many.

If you're on the team which claims to love the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely violates the 1st and 4th amendments, not to mention Articles 2 and 3, I'm on the other team.

If you claim to hate pedophiles, but support a leader who not only is hiding the evidence of one of the largest sex trafficking rings in history, but very likely at least was a customer, if not a trafficker himself, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that opposed vaccines and mandatory masking orders, flew "Don't tread on me" flags from your coal-roller, claimed the Second Amendment was to protect individuals from tyranny, and then meekly made excuses when a federal agent murdered at least one citizen in the street, I'm on the other team.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 5:25 pm
by Beebs52
Jeez, sorry, no response. Fuck

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:52 pm
by flockofseagulls104
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mrkelley23 wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 4:08 pm
A while back, there was a discussion here about which BBs were on which teams, or tribes, when it comes to politics. Someone, I think it was BiT, said that I belonged with the lefties/liberals/woke label (I don't remember which one was being used) but that I would argue or disagree. Back then, I would have said that I would prefer to focus on what unites us, rather than divides us. But I think that time has finally passed.

If you're on the team that claims to love the First Amendment to the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely threatens, files lawsuits, has his secret police detain or even murder people for exercising that right, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that claims to oppose corruption, but turns a blind eye when Dear Leader invades a country, steals its oil, sells it, then transfers it to an offshore account that he has direct control over, I'm on the other team. That's not even counting the other corrupt acts, which are many.

If you're on the team which claims to love the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely violates the 1st and 4th amendments, not to mention Articles 2 and 3, I'm on the other team.

If you claim to hate pedophiles, but support a leader who not only is hiding the evidence of one of the largest sex trafficking rings in history, but very likely at least was a customer, if not a trafficker himself, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that opposed vaccines and mandatory masking orders, flew "Don't tread on me" flags from your coal-roller, claimed the Second Amendment was to protect individuals from tyranny, and then meekly made excuses when a federal agent murdered at least one citizen in the street, I'm on the other team.
Looks like you're on the TDS team all the way. No rational explanation other than that for the myopic claims you're spouting. Good luck with your team.

No acknowledgement of the blatant lawfare inflicted by your team.
No mention of the 10s of billions of fraud uncovered in MN, not to even mention what is likely in CA, IL, et Al.
No talk about the millions of illegals let into this country by your team. I could go on, but I have to go.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 8:34 pm
by silverscreenselect
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:52 pm
No acknowledgement of the blatant lawfare inflicted by your team.
You mean like the investigations of James Comey, Letitia James, John Bolton, Mark Kelly, Elisa Slotkin, Jason Crow, Maggie Goodlander, Chrissy Houlahan, Chris Deluzio, Jerome Powell, Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Lisa Cook, Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell, Chris Christie, Jack Smith, Miles Taylor, Christopher Krebs, and dozens of people who have had security clearances revoked.?

The only things all these investigations have in common is that the people involved displeased Trump in one way or another, and that the only ones that actually made it to a courtroom were thrown out in record time.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:10 pm
by tlynn78
mrkelley23 wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 4:08 pm
A while back, there was a discussion here about which BBs were on which teams, or tribes, when it comes to politics. Someone, I think it was BiT, said that I belonged with the lefties/liberals/woke label (I don't remember which one was being used) but that I would argue or disagree. Back then, I would have said that I would prefer to focus on what unites us, rather than divides us. But I think that time has finally passed.

If you're on the team that claims to love the First Amendment to the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely threatens, files lawsuits, has his secret police detain or even murder people for exercising that right, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that claims to oppose corruption, but turns a blind eye when Dear Leader invades a country, steals its oil, sells it, then transfers it to an offshore account that he has direct control over, I'm on the other team. That's not even counting the other corrupt acts, which are many.

If you're on the team which claims to love the Constitution, but support a leader who routinely violates the 1st and 4th amendments, not to mention Articles 2 and 3, I'm on the other team.

If you claim to hate pedophiles, but support a leader who not only is hiding the evidence of one of the largest sex trafficking rings in history, but very likely at least was a customer, if not a trafficker himself, I'm on the other team.

If you're on the team that opposed vaccines and mandatory masking orders, flew "Don't tread on me" flags from your coal-roller, claimed the Second Amendment was to protect individuals from tyranny, and then meekly made excuses when a federal agent murdered at least one citizen in the street, I'm on the other team.
Ah yes. The team where feelings are fact and truth doesn't matter.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:12 pm
by tlynn78
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 8:34 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 6:52 pm
No acknowledgement of the blatant lawfare inflicted by your team.
You mean like the investigations of James Comey, Letitia James, John Bolton, Mark Kelly, Elisa Slotkin, Jason Crow, Maggie Goodlander, Chrissy Houlahan, Chris Deluzio, Jerome Powell, Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, Lisa Cook, Adam Schiff, Eric Swalwell, Chris Christie, Jack Smith, Miles Taylor, Christopher Krebs, and dozens of people who have had security clearances revoked.?

The only things all these investigations have in common is that the people involved displeased Trump in one way or another, and that the only ones that actually made it to a courtroom were thrown out in record time.
Never mind the laws they broke, if Trump doesn't like them, they're off limits? That seems legit.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:42 pm
by Weyoun
I think a lot of this breaks down into a group of people who are reasonable, though certainly not perfect, and another group of people (whitefailure, blackhole, brokeback, etc al) who talk a lot and seem contradictory, but any contradiction breaks down once you realize that ultimately, the problem is they just don’t like Black people.

I’m sure you can go back in time and find some sort of hypocrisy about their view of government or free speech or whatever.

But ultimately, their opinions only make sense once you realize that all this stuff about government force, government policy, restrictions for this, but not for this, you can say this but not that, government can spend money for this but not that, come down to the fact that they just don’t like Black people. They want Black people hopefully away from them, and maybe in a completely different part of the world.

If you understand that, and apply that to them, and think that “Wow! They must really be pieces of shit,” then you would be right.

I hope that helps.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:50 pm
by Weyoun
For example, whitefailure’s comments above about all this fraud in all these states, really goes down to the fact that he doesn’t want minorities getting government money. We a have $1 trillion defense department. Literally! I’m sure there’s all sorts of corruption there. But what makes him mad is the idea that some Somali might be doing something shady because some guy on YouTube did a video. If some white guy over martinis gets a government contract with DoD, who cares?

His constant ranting about elections in Georgia really come down to the fact that he has a hard time believing that Black people are capable of voting, even though they have every reason to vote against the current Republican party. So when the Republicans lose an election in Georgia, because Black people voted, he thinks it’s illegitimate. Because, ultimately, he has some belief about Black people, as in either they’re too lazy, or too stupid, or whatever, that they can’t organize enough to vote for their own interest, that when they actually win, it’s a huge problem, so he becomes this gadfly weirdo that even his local party disavows because they think he is too crazy.

Just one example. But if you come across a Trumper with contorted logic, just ask yourself: “is this nonsense just because they don’t like Black people?” and you’ll be both surprised, and troubled, with the result.

Re: Teams

Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2026 12:12 pm
by flockofseagulls104
I just don't know how to respond, or even if to respond, to the hateful screeds that the alleged physician lays down. Mrkelley, you talk about teams? You really want to be an a team with that individual? He is apparently your teammate. Why don't you spend some time denouncing the hate-filled posts he comes up with, if you really want to appear virtuous.

I do not feel any need to defend myself against his constant garbage. But since it is MLK day, I will remind everyone with a reasonable mind of MLK's statement that has guided me since I first heard it when I was 9 or 10 years old. He had a dream that his children "will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." I can only hope that the 'doctor' will ponder that and look at his own behavior.

That is all I will say to and about him.

Re: Teams

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 9:43 am
by BackInTex
Weyoun wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:42 pm
I think a lot of this breaks down into a group of people who are reasonable, though certainly not perfect, and another group of people (whitefailure, blackhole, brokeback, etc al)
blackhole. I haven't seen that one. Who may I ask have you nicknamed that, and why/

Re: Teams

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:19 am
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jan 18, 2026 12:12 pm
I just don't know how to respond, or even if to respond, to the hateful screeds that the alleged physician lays down. Mrkelley, you talk about teams? You really want to be an a team with that individual? He is apparently your teammate. Why don't you spend some time denouncing the hate-filled posts he comes up with, if you really want to appear virtuous.

I do not feel any need to defend myself against his constant garbage. But since it is MLK day, I will remind everyone with a reasonable mind of MLK's statement that has guided me since I first heard it when I was 9 or 10 years old. He had a dream that his children "will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." I can only hope that the 'doctor' will ponder that and look at his own behavior.

That is all I will say to and about him.
It’s definitely a loser white male move to suggest that the whole gist of Martin Luther King Jr. was that we should all be treated equal, which means that some black person can’t get welfare now. I mean if whitefailure doesn’t gwt a check, why should THAT person?

And obviously, it’s the true realization of Dr. King’s dream in that Pete Hegseth, a drunk accused of sexually assaulting someone, can become secretary of defense, despite all the woke forces allied against him.

Anyway, if I were fascist, I’d be careful about pretending that Dr. King would’ve been a friend to me:

https://jacobin.com/2017/01/restoring-k ... O0gh6B5B0g

Re: Teams

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2026 10:20 am
by Weyoun
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Jan 19, 2026 9:43 am
Weyoun wrote:
Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:42 pm
I think a lot of this breaks down into a group of people who are reasonable, though certainly not perfect, and another group of people (whitefailure, blackhole, brokeback, etc al)
blackhole. I haven't seen that one. Who may I ask have you nicknamed that, and why/
It’s not you. Let’s just say that this person sucks, and that no light can escape from this person