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https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/06/politics ... -6-website

The White House rolled out a new website Tuesday with a full-blown recast of the historical record of January 6, 2021, hailing the pro-Trump mob who stormed the US Capitol five years ago as “peaceful protesters” who were provoked by law enforcement.

The new site baselessly claims the violence on January 6, 2021, was instigated by law enforcement and then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. It recasts the rioters as the victims that day, and depicts President Donald Trump as a hero for granting sweeping pardons for the nearly 1,600 people charged in connection with the deadly attack.

I specifically ignore any report on this issue that uses phrases like "baseless" (the questions about what happened in 2020 is NOT baseless. There are plenty of things that do not add up that have never been answered), "without evidence" (omg, there are volumes of evidence of fraud and wrongdoing) and all the other adjectives that these so-called journalists are all compelled to employ.
None of them have the expertise to decide who is telling the truth or us lying. And it is not their job to determine that. Their job is to report facts. Which they do not do.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:09 am

I specifically ignore any report on this issue that uses phrases like "baseless" (the questions about what happened in 2020 is NOT baseless. There are plenty of things that do not add up that have never been answered), "without evidence" (omg, there are volumes of evidence of fraud and wrongdoing) and all the other adjectives that these so-called journalists are all compelled to employ.
None of them have the expertise to decide who is telling the truth or us lying. And it is not their job to determine that. Their job is to report facts. Which they do not do.

I guess that a more accurate term than "baseless" or "without evidence" is "never been shown to be true in any fact-finding forum although they have produced gobs of indecipherable spreadsheets that people like Flock loudly proclaim is proof of their claims."

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:02 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:09 am

I specifically ignore any report on this issue that uses phrases like "baseless" (the questions about what happened in 2020 is NOT baseless. There are plenty of things that do not add up that have never been answered), "without evidence" (omg, there are volumes of evidence of fraud and wrongdoing) and all the other adjectives that these so-called journalists are all compelled to employ.
None of them have the expertise to decide who is telling the truth or us lying. And it is not their job to determine that. Their job is to report facts. Which they do not do.

I guess that a more accurate term than "baseless" or "without evidence" is "never been shown to be true in any fact-finding forum although they have produced gobs of indecipherable spreadsheets that people like Flock loudly proclaim is proof of their claims."

Nope not going there again. Your stupid arguments have been refuted time and time again.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:47 am

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 9:02 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 8:09 am

I specifically ignore any report on this issue that uses phrases like "baseless" (the questions about what happened in 2020 is NOT baseless. There are plenty of things that do not add up that have never been answered), "without evidence" (omg, there are volumes of evidence of fraud and wrongdoing) and all the other adjectives that these so-called journalists are all compelled to employ.
None of them have the expertise to decide who is telling the truth or us lying. And it is not their job to determine that. Their job is to report facts. Which they do not do.

I guess that a more accurate term than "baseless" or "without evidence" is "never been shown to be true in any fact-finding forum although they have produced gobs of indecipherable spreadsheets that people like Flock loudly proclaim is proof of their claims."

Nope not going there again. Your stupid arguments have been refuted time and time again.

You do not Back the Blue.

On a similar note, a government employee just murdered a Minnesota woman in cold blood.

I’m guessing the same folks who think that Ashli Babbit deserve to be buried at Arlington thinks that this was completely justified

Once and for all, SSS, here is your evidence in just one factor of our corrupt election system. I always say that I know that I don't know what I don't know. This is something that I KNOW!

My story is the same as Jason Frazier's. But he started a couple of years before me. He concentrated in Fulton county, I looked at Dekalb county. I found a lot of what he found in Dekalb before I heard about him. He is now nationally known for his work. He and I were both nominated for our respective election boards only to be denied by our county's corrupt democrat machines.

I challenge you to watch this Nick Shirley style expose of the absolute chaos that is known as the Fulton Couny voter roll and come back with any kind of lame excuse that can be taken seriously.

https://x.com/David_Khait/status/200928 ... 96477?s=20

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 07, 2026 6:26 pm

On a similar note, a government employee just murdered a Minnesota woman in cold blood.

I’m guessing the same folks who think that Ashli Babbit deserve to be buried at Arlington thinks that this was completely justified

Bodycam footage tells a different story. Maybe you should try your hand at writing fiction; the truth isn't your strong suit.

Her last words: “that’s fine dude. I’m not mad at you.”

His last words to her: “fucking bitch.”

Do you really want to live in a country where it is open season on “fucking bitches”?

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:40 pm

Her last words: “that’s fine dude. I’m not mad at you.”

His last words to her: “fucking bitch.”

Do you really want to live in a country where it is open season on “fucking bitches”?

Oh, right - fantasy is more your thing. Got it.

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 09, 2026 3:00 pm

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 09, 2026 2:40 pm

Her last words: “that’s fine dude. I’m not mad at you.”

His last words to her: “fucking bitch.”

Do you really want to live in a country where it is open season on “fucking bitches”?

Oh, right - fantasy is more your thing. Got it.

No fantasy, and certainly nothing fantastic, about the agents refusing to let a doctor who is on the scene assist the dying. It gives the game away that this was a cover-up from the start, and that these thugs wanted her dead.

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:43 pm

Bodycam footage tells a different story.

I saw the agent’s video on TV. First of all, it wasn’t a real bodycam: he was holding his cell phone in one hand and his weapon in the other. Agent Ross was skilled enough to aim both accurately, but a less experienced officer might not. With their billions in funding, ICE can afford body cameras.

In the video, agents exchange words with Good and her partner. They’re clearly nonviolent protesters. Good ignores orders to stop and get out of the car and tries to drive away. Agents attempt to block her and open the door. She turns the wheel away from agent Ross. Then he fires though the windshield and open side window.

At worst, she was guilty of impeding law enforcement and bumping her car into the agent as she tried to drive away. Not domestic terrorism and no excuse for deadly force.

jarnon wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 10, 2026 10:32 am

Good ignores orders to stop and get out of the car and tries to drive away.

You omitted an important detail. The other ICE agent (not Ross), pulls up in his truck (he was the passenger in his truck) after Ross had circled the car, recorded the license plates, stopped in front of the car, and told Good to get out of the car. This other agent walks directly to Ross's car and tries to open the driver's door. That's when Good turns her wheel to the right (away from Ross) and accelerates.

Proper police procedure at any level is not to walk up to a door and immediately try to open it. That's as much for the police officer's protection (the driver might be carrying a weapon) as anything else. You have a situation where a woman panics when an armed masked man walks up to her car and tries to open the door.

Clearly, this is one of those things that are indisputable either way if you look at it from your own political point of view. Truth is not important.

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

Losers like you have a freak out over Covid and talk about rights, yet you have no problem with people going around with masks, shooting people. You’re a fucking fraud - add it!

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

If the Capitol Police had applied the same "logic" on January 6 as that ICE agent did (with far greater justification from a pure risk analysis), there would have been dozens of dead rioters on the Capitol steps that day.

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

Losers like you have a freak out over Covid and talk about rights, yet you have no problem with people going around with masks, shooting people. You’re a fucking fraud - add it!

Play stupid games...
You double down on stupid.

Some random dude professes to be a doctor, so law enforcement should allow this random civilian into that situation? Sure, bud.

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:39 am

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

If the Capitol Police had applied the same "logic" on January 6 as that ICE agent did (with far greater justification from a pure risk analysis), there would have been dozens of dead rioters on the Capitol steps that day.

Would that be before or after they escorted them in along (and within) the velvet ropes?

It is increasingly obvious that there is no point in trying to debate you on this, or any other subject. The TRUTH is not important to you, SSS. You will support the approved narrative of your party, or the one that denigrates trump or his supporters, no matter what unimpeachable evidence is unearthed and presented that contradicts that narrative. You do not look at or consider other evidence. It is not important to you and will not get you to reconsider things. And you completely disregard and have no respect for other people's perspectives. They just don't exist for you.

In this case, you do NOT know who is at fault, Ms Good or the ICE agent, (or both) but you are all in on your belief. The same with J6. Or the 2020 election. I have questions I want to have answers to. You pretend you know all the answers and tell me I'm an idiot because I don't accept your answers.

It is my fault that I did not realize this for so long. I just believe the best in people, even those whose opinions I disagree with. Weyoun is the extreme example of this. You seem to be maybe a more tactful Weyoun, but are just as intractable and unable to maintain a debate with.

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 1:25 pm

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

Losers like you have a freak out over Covid and talk about rights, yet you have no problem with people going around with masks, shooting people. You’re a fucking fraud - add it!

Play stupid games...
You double down on stupid.

Some random dude professes to be a doctor, so law enforcement should allow this random civilian into that situation? Sure, bud.

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 1:27 pm

silverscreenselect wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 10:39 am

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

If the Capitol Police had applied the same "logic" on January 6 as that ICE agent did (with far greater justification from a pure risk analysis), there would have been dozens of dead rioters on the Capitol steps that day.

Would that be before or after they escorted them in along (and within) the velvet ropes?

With zip ties. Don’t forget they brought zip ties.

flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 3:04 pm

The TRUTH is not important to you, SSS. You will support the approved narrative of your party, or the one that denigrates trump or his supporters, no matter what unimpeachable evidence is unearthed and presented that contradicts that narrative. You do not look at or consider other evidence.

The truth is important to me. But I don't search for it on Twitter, ignoring all evidence to the contrary until I find some random poster who shares my viewpoint. I don't ignore the hundreds of photos like this one of what took place on the Capitol steps on January 6 in favor of some convoluted narrative that somehow everything that happened (including dozens of police officers injured in the attack) was somehow the result of some Democratic or left wing provaocateurs whose ientities remain a complete mystery.

And if you don't believe me, just go to Google images and do a search for "rioters attack Capitol Police" like I did, and you'll find hundreds of similar images from dozens of sources.

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:12 pm

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 1:25 pm

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:41 am

I think they are plenty of factual reasons to suggest that the government was in the wrong and committed murder. At a minimum, they’re the professionals who should de-escalate. If they shoot someone, they shouldn’t prevent medical personnel from assisting the dying. This supposed professional shouldn’t flee the scene four minutes later with his side arm still on him. The government shouldn’t immediately denounce the victim as a terrorist before facts were even clear. The vice president shouldn’t spend more time this week bashing this poor dead person than he has spent his entire career defending his Indian wife.

Losers like you have a freak out over Covid and talk about rights, yet you have no problem with people going around with masks, shooting people. You’re a fucking fraud - add it!

Play stupid games...
You double down on stupid.

Some random dude professes to be a doctor, so law enforcement should allow this random civilian into that situation? Sure, bud.

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

C'mon, man, I thought you were an expert in law enforcement <this week>.

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:40 pm

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:12 pm

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 1:25 pm

Play stupid games...
You double down on stupid.

Some random dude professes to be a doctor, so law enforcement should allow this random civilian into that situation? Sure, bud.

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

C'mon, man, I thought you were an expert in law enforcement <this week>.

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 9:52 pm

tlynn78 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 7:40 pm

Weyoun wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 12, 2026 6:12 pm

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

C'mon, man, I thought you were an expert in law enforcement <this week>.

What was he going to do? Kill her more?

Is your needle stuck? The officers had a group of protesters milling around them in a volatile situation, and they should let a random dude into the center of it? I realize she is just short of Jesus to morons, but what was he going to do, resurrect her despite three bullets to her head? Law enforcement doesnt allow legitimate, easily identifiable medics into a scene until they know it's contolled. I typed that real slowly, so maybe you can grasp the basics.