Venezuela
Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2026 10:03 am
It's not about cocaine, it's about oil.
Possibly...elwoodblues wrote: ↑Sun Jan 04, 2026 4:41 pmGeorge W. Bush has to be thinking, "You mean I could have just SAID it was for oil? We didn't need that BS about WMDs?"
Chevron's oil facilities produce about 250,000 barrels of oil daily. (The US produces about 20 million barrels of oil a day.) The oil infrastructure in Venezuela isn't centralized; it's scattered throughout a country the size of Texas and Oklahoma put together. Any effort to rebuild or repair those facilities would be an easy target for sabotage, with a lot of people having very hostile feelings about US oil companies. The only way to have any chance of keeping those facilities and their workers safe is through US troops on the ground.Bob Juch wrote: ↑Sun Jan 04, 2026 6:06 pmRubio said he has not spoken to specific U.S. oil companies about the prospect of starting business in Venezuela. Currently, only Chevron
operates in the country. “We’re pretty certain that there will be dramatic interest from Western companies,” Rubio said.
We've heard about the political prisoners being released in Venezuela; something else to blame Trump for!silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:28 amIsn't it amazing that in the four days since Maduro was kidnapped, we haven't heard one word about the Venezuelan drug trade or "narco-terrorism" other than in the list of charges read against Maduro in the New York courtroom?
An occasional person and tankers full of oil. If they also stop exporting drugs and take back immigrants that Trump is trying to deport, he’ll probably forget about regime change and restoring democracy and focus his attention elsewhere.
Um, not so much.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 6:03 pmVenezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado met with Trump today and gave him her Nobel Peace Prize medallion. (The committee earlier said that she could not transfer the actual prize to Trump.) That's the difference between a real leader who cares about her people and a petty man who only cares about himself.
Or, someone with another perspective could say, "some leaders are so desperate to gain power that they openly bribe a corrupt politician to do so."silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 6:03 pmVenezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado met with Trump today and gave him her Nobel Peace Prize medallion. (The committee earlier said that she could not transfer the actual prize to Trump.) That's the difference between a real leader who cares about her people and a petty man who only cares about himself.
There’s something to be said for this point. Machado looks AWFUL and groveling.mrkelley23 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:54 pmOr, someone with another perspective could say, "some leaders are so desperate to gain power that they openly bribe a corrupt politician to do so."silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 6:03 pmVenezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado met with Trump today and gave him her Nobel Peace Prize medallion. (The committee earlier said that she could not transfer the actual prize to Trump.) That's the difference between a real leader who cares about her people and a petty man who only cares about himself.
So white folks telling the people of Venezuela, don't be happy that Trump removed Maduro, you don't know what's good for you, we'll tell you what's good for you. That seems, oh, what's the word?...Weyoun wrote: ↑Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:38 pmThere’s something to be said for this point. Machado looks AWFUL and groveling.mrkelley23 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:54 pmOr, someone with another perspective could say, "some leaders are so desperate to gain power that they openly bribe a corrupt politician to do so."silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Jan 15, 2026 6:03 pmVenezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado met with Trump today and gave him her Nobel Peace Prize medallion. (The committee earlier said that she could not transfer the actual prize to Trump.) That's the difference between a real leader who cares about her people and a petty man who only cares about himself.
It is totally possible that someone suggested that she just butter Trump up, and he will concede. At this point, he’s so obviously projecting everything that he wants, so she gave him what he wanted.
But he also doesn’t like weakness and can smell it. He probably smells it here.
It’s really a shame that our foreign policy, as well as the fate of a nation, come down to one man’s huge personal failings.
...Trump? Because that's actually what Trump is doing. You've offered no evidence that Venezuelans prefer Rodriguez over Machado (or Guiterrez, or Maduro).tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 20, 2026 5:11 pmSo white folks telling the people of Venezuela, don't be happy that Trump removed Maduro, you don't know what's good for you, we'll tell you what's good for you. That seems, oh, what's the word?...Weyoun wrote: ↑Sat Jan 17, 2026 9:38 pmThere’s something to be said for this point. Machado looks AWFUL and groveling.mrkelley23 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 17, 2026 3:54 pm
Or, someone with another perspective could say, "some leaders are so desperate to gain power that they openly bribe a corrupt politician to do so."
It is totally possible that someone suggested that she just butter Trump up, and he will concede. At this point, he’s so obviously projecting everything that he wants, so she gave him what he wanted.
But he also doesn’t like weakness and can smell it. He probably smells it here.
It’s really a shame that our foreign policy, as well as the fate of a nation, come down to one man’s huge personal failings.