Trump's Lebensborn

[Bob Juch]

I just heard of this. Remember, he said Hitler had some good ideas.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/ ... r-AA1EcKCu

Lebensborn, which translates to "Fount of Life" was a program initiated by the SS in Nazi Germany, designed to increase the birth rate of "racially pure" Aryan children. The program provided support to unmarried pregnant women deemed racially valuable, offering them maternity care and facilitating the adoption of their children by similarly "pure" German families. It also encouraged SS officers to father children with these women, aiming to expand the Aryan population.

[flockofseagulls106]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

[silverscreenselect]

What happened to my old buddy, flockofseagulls104? Is he sick? Dead? Deported?

Are you some left-winger in disguise trying to fool us into believing you're flockofseagulls104? Perhaps weyoun, he hasn't posted here for a few days. Or Bob###. he hasn't posted for even longer in the Lounge.

I miss my old buddy flockofseagulls104 already.

[earendel]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

[jarnon]

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=63034

I think they want to return to a patriarchal structure of family and society, not to the Third Reich.

[Beebs52]

Not sure that's what I took away from that thread...
But appreciate your non-obnoxious take on things.

Can't necessarily disagree with the patriarchal thing. Being as how I am an obnoxiously loudmouthed woman sort, unless circumstances work otherwise, the nuclear family works pretty good.

[flockofseagulls106]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

You are wrong. The only issue is how can we compare Trump to hitler. Anyone else saying this would have no problem.

[earendel]

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

You are wrong. The only issue is how can we compare Trump to hitler. Anyone else saying this would have no problem.

No, you are wrong. I would have a problem with this no matter who said it, for the reason I stated. I'm reasonably certain that others feel the same way.

[BackInTex]

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

Not being political or challenging the number. Just showing some math for perspective.

For 1.94 kids (current US average) that is $26,944 per year. The median income in the US is $39,982. Not much cushion, about $1,100 / month for the parents.

It does provide some reasoning on why we might are a nation of debtors rathr than savers.

[flockofseagulls106]

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

You are wrong. The only issue is how can we compare Trump to hitler. Anyone else saying this would have no problem.

No, you are wrong. I would have a problem with this no matter who said it, for the reason I stated. I'm reasonably certain that others feel the same way.

But would you tie your disagreement to a hitler slander? That, in my view, is a greater sin than the complaint with the proposed policy. But that is all your side has. Your side doesn't want to discuss or debate policy. They just try and sabotage anything Trump wants to do, whatever it is. The sooner you realize that, maybe we will take your side seriously. Propose a better solution, perhaps?

[earendel]

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

You are wrong. The only issue is how can we compare Trump to hitler. Anyone else saying this would have no problem.

No, you are wrong. I would have a problem with this no matter who said it, for the reason I stated. I'm reasonably certain that others feel the same way.

But would you tie your disagreement to a hitler slander? That, in my view, is a greater sin than the complaint with the proposed policy. But that is all your side has. Your side doesn't want to discuss or debate policy. They just try and sabotage anything Trump wants to do, whatever it is. The sooner you realize that, maybe we will take your side seriously. Propose a better solution, perhaps?

"My side" has nothing to do with a "hitler (sic) slander". I don't agree with Bob's attempt to link the two.

[Weyoun]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

It’s pretty clear that this policy is being triggered because they want more white babies.

You, having such heighten whitefailure, of course they’re all on board

The thing is, $5000 isn’t that much. Not when you have an administration gutting healthcare and education.

You guys almost have it figured out! Just a couple more steps and you’ll be there. Maybe we could move some money from that military parade

[Weyoun]

The issue is this: paying women to give birth doesn't do anything for either mother or child after the birth. Estimates are that it costs around $250,000 to rear a child to age 18, so giving a woman $1000 (or whatever the amount is) is a drop in the bucket.

Not being political or challenging the number. Just showing some math for perspective.

For 1.94 kids (current US average) that is $26,944 per year. The median income in the US is $39,982. Not much cushion, about $1,100 / month for the parents.

It does provide some reasoning on why we might are a nation of debtors rathr than savers.

Ah! You’re almost there. Now think if healthcare and education was less expensive!

[Weyoun]

What happened to my old buddy, flockofseagulls104? Is he sick? Dead? Deported?

Are you some left-winger in disguise trying to fool us into believing you're flockofseagulls104? Perhaps weyoun, he hasn't posted here for a few days. Or Bob###. he hasn't posted for even longer in the Lounge.

I miss my old buddy flockofseagulls104 already.

I’m not even sure how I would imitate him. My oven is electric, so I’m not sure if I would get enough carbon monoxide poisoning from it if I put my head in it for a bit.

[Beebs52]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

t’s pretty clear that this policy is being triggered because they want more white babies.

You, having such heighten whitefailure, of course they’re all on board

The thing is, $5000 isn’t that much. Not when you have an administration gutting healthcare and education.

You guys almost have it figured out! Just a couple more steps and you’ll be there. Maybe we could move some money from that military parade

According to whom? As usual you make shit up.

With that said, the whole proposal creeps me out.

[flockofseagulls104]

What happened to my old buddy, flockofseagulls104? Is he sick? Dead? Deported?

Are you some left-winger in disguise trying to fool us into believing you're flockofseagulls104? Perhaps weyoun, he hasn't posted here for a few days. Or Bob###. he hasn't posted for even longer in the Lounge.

I miss my old buddy flockofseagulls104 already.

No. I finally got LB to fix my login.
I don't care to argue with you lunatics. Just wanted to respond to BJs decidedly heinous post.

[Weyoun]

Oh, really BJ?

So, we're back to the hitler comparison bullshit?

Seems to me, one of your ilk's disingenuous and laughable excuses for opening the border to everyone in the world was our declining birthrate. We needed to have more people to fund our government for the upcoming generations, right?

But your ilk seems to be dead set against anyone finding and cutting waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer money, reducing the number or reasons for abortions or even suggesting people have more babies.

What the fuck is wrong with you people? Why should anyone pay any attention to you?

t’s pretty clear that this policy is being triggered because they want more white babies.

You, having such heighten whitefailure, of course they’re all on board

The thing is, $5000 isn’t that much. Not when you have an administration gutting healthcare and education.

You guys almost have it figured out! Just a couple more steps and you’ll be there. Maybe we could move some money from that military parade

According to whom? As usual you make shit up.

With that said, the whole proposal creeps me out.

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

[flockofseagulls104]

t’s pretty clear that this policy is being triggered because they want more white babies.

You, having such heighten whitefailure, of course they’re all on board

The thing is, $5000 isn’t that much. Not when you have an administration gutting healthcare and education.

You guys almost have it figured out! Just a couple more steps and you’ll be there. Maybe we could move some money from that military parade

According to whom? As usual you make shit up.

With that said, the whole proposal creeps me out.

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

And I'm content to let ifonly show how much of a racist asshole he is all by himself.

[flockofseagulls104]

No, you are wrong. I would have a problem with this no matter who said it, for the reason I stated. I'm reasonably certain that others feel the same way.

But would you tie your disagreement to a hitler slander? That, in my view, is a greater sin than the complaint with the proposed policy. But that is all your side has. Your side doesn't want to discuss or debate policy. They just try and sabotage anything Trump wants to do, whatever it is. The sooner you realize that, maybe we will take your side seriously. Propose a better solution, perhaps?

"My side" has nothing to do with a "hitler (sic) slander". I don't agree with Bob's attempt to link the two.

But you never express any concern about what they do and their methods.

[Beebs52]

t’s pretty clear that this policy is being triggered because they want more white babies.

You, having such heighten whitefailure, of course they’re all on board

The thing is, $5000 isn’t that much. Not when you have an administration gutting healthcare and education.

You guys almost have it figured out! Just a couple more steps and you’ll be there. Maybe we could move some money from that military parade

According to whom? As usual you make shit up.

With that said, the whole proposal creeps me out.

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

You're a niche thinker y'are.

[Beebs52]

According to whom? As usual you make shit up.

With that said, the whole proposal creeps me out.

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

You're a niche thinker y'are.

Plus, won't "brown" mamas be eligible for the subsidy?
Are you a racist doofus?

[tlynn78]

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

You're a niche thinker y'are.

Plus, won't "brown" mamas be eligible for the subsidy?
Are you a racist doofus?

Don't be coming around here with facts, ma'am.

[Weyoun]

Ah yes, notorious brownophile Stephen Miller definitely is hoping this leads to more Hispanic babies

You're a niche thinker y'are.

Plus, won't "brown" mamas be eligible for the subsidy?
Are you a racist doofus?

Who knows? Knowing those clowns, they probably would say that you have to be married to get the subsidy, with their assumption being that young black woman aren’t married. If that seems racist and abhorrent to think, that means our administration is probably thinking it

[Weyoun]

To follow up on above, that’s pretty much what Hungary is doing already

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/h ... KBN1Y01X8/

As suggested above, the really idiotic thing about all this is that $5000 is a drop in the bucket, and just another clue that these billionaires don’t know how people live

[Beebs52]

their assumption being that young black woman aren’t married. If that seems racist and abhorrent to think, that means our administration is probably thinking it

According to whom?