Nobody Has to Read This-On Portfolio Management
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:15 pm
I have been doing a lot of financial thinking lately in some directions that I haven't gone before and in this thread I am outlining some of the ones on portfolio management. Another thread will likely follow on another topic.
In the last few weeks I have listened to a lot of stuff by Warren Buffett/Charlie Munger and others in that vein(Monesh Pabrai, for example).
Buffett/Munger are big on portfolio concentration and believe that too much diversification is a mistake. They say don't get in the way of your compounders -in other words let the winners run
Well, I my portfolio is way over-diversified and I don't plan to change that, but I am trying to tinker around the edges some.
1) The coal investment is a somewhat concentrated investment. As of the start date, it comprised 12.3% of the portfolio. A few days before that, I posted that it was about 11.5%. After that, I evened up some share totals in the 4 companies and the final start percentage was 12.3%.
Yeah, maybe a large percent of the stock portfolio-but very minor in terms of wider asset holdings-real estate etc.
2) Current structure of the account is that most of the companies pay a dividend. Some of these dividends are automatically re-invested in the company and some of the dividends are just used to buy shares of a different company. Currently, I using this money to buy Archer-Daniels Midland (ADM)
3) I have always been pretty happy with the way I have these companies chosen. I want to accumulate more shares (obviously slowly) in the companies where the dividends are re-invested and I did not really want to own more shares of the companies in which I am not reinvesting and I would rather use those dividends to buy other companies.
4) However, I have been taking a second (and 5th) look at the companies where I am not reinvesting the dividends to see if I am getting in the way of a good thing.
5) Some of these decisions are very easy. For example. I own International Paper (IP) for the dividend and the price has moved very little over time. I have no interest in owning any more and am content to use the dividend to buy other companies.
6) Some took a little more thought. For example, my crown jewel which is Phillip Morris and the 4 spinoff companies. As of the end of Q1 2025, I am sitting on a 36X (3675%) return on this over the last 25 (or so years). Within reason, and given a few more decades of life-this could be the precious 100-bagger.
For many years, I re-invested the dividends until I reached a share number that I was comfortable owning and for the last 5 years or so I have using the dividends to buy other companies. I strongly considered re-investing these dividends back into PM (and cronies) -but it is at all-time highs now and I have no desire to buy at these high levels.
Interestingly, I now get substantially more in dividends every year than the original investment.
7) I considered a few other of my big gainers and only settled on moving Blackstone (BX) to the dividend re-investment side of the portfolio. I have owned it for many years and I am currently sitting on a 535% gain. Interestingly, BX hit a major high in February when I was about 800% ahead (damn Trump). I have never re-invested the dividends back into BX so I have collected dividends for years on it and put them to work to buy other companies.
Unfortunately, I only started keeping track of dividends by company and quarter in 1Q 2018 and you can't search history on my brokers site past 2021 so there is no easy way to figure out the dividend history farther back than that. But, since then (1Q 2018) I have gotten substantially more in dividends than the original investment was (whenever that was). The main broker page has the cost of the shares when I bought them -but not when that might have been and I have no recall of that. PM is really the only holding that I can easily reconstruct.
In the last few weeks I have listened to a lot of stuff by Warren Buffett/Charlie Munger and others in that vein(Monesh Pabrai, for example).
Buffett/Munger are big on portfolio concentration and believe that too much diversification is a mistake. They say don't get in the way of your compounders -in other words let the winners run
Well, I my portfolio is way over-diversified and I don't plan to change that, but I am trying to tinker around the edges some.
1) The coal investment is a somewhat concentrated investment. As of the start date, it comprised 12.3% of the portfolio. A few days before that, I posted that it was about 11.5%. After that, I evened up some share totals in the 4 companies and the final start percentage was 12.3%.
Yeah, maybe a large percent of the stock portfolio-but very minor in terms of wider asset holdings-real estate etc.
2) Current structure of the account is that most of the companies pay a dividend. Some of these dividends are automatically re-invested in the company and some of the dividends are just used to buy shares of a different company. Currently, I using this money to buy Archer-Daniels Midland (ADM)
3) I have always been pretty happy with the way I have these companies chosen. I want to accumulate more shares (obviously slowly) in the companies where the dividends are re-invested and I did not really want to own more shares of the companies in which I am not reinvesting and I would rather use those dividends to buy other companies.
4) However, I have been taking a second (and 5th) look at the companies where I am not reinvesting the dividends to see if I am getting in the way of a good thing.
5) Some of these decisions are very easy. For example. I own International Paper (IP) for the dividend and the price has moved very little over time. I have no interest in owning any more and am content to use the dividend to buy other companies.
6) Some took a little more thought. For example, my crown jewel which is Phillip Morris and the 4 spinoff companies. As of the end of Q1 2025, I am sitting on a 36X (3675%) return on this over the last 25 (or so years). Within reason, and given a few more decades of life-this could be the precious 100-bagger.
For many years, I re-invested the dividends until I reached a share number that I was comfortable owning and for the last 5 years or so I have using the dividends to buy other companies. I strongly considered re-investing these dividends back into PM (and cronies) -but it is at all-time highs now and I have no desire to buy at these high levels.
Interestingly, I now get substantially more in dividends every year than the original investment.
7) I considered a few other of my big gainers and only settled on moving Blackstone (BX) to the dividend re-investment side of the portfolio. I have owned it for many years and I am currently sitting on a 535% gain. Interestingly, BX hit a major high in February when I was about 800% ahead (damn Trump). I have never re-invested the dividends back into BX so I have collected dividends for years on it and put them to work to buy other companies.
Unfortunately, I only started keeping track of dividends by company and quarter in 1Q 2018 and you can't search history on my brokers site past 2021 so there is no easy way to figure out the dividend history farther back than that. But, since then (1Q 2018) I have gotten substantially more in dividends than the original investment was (whenever that was). The main broker page has the cost of the shares when I bought them -but not when that might have been and I have no recall of that. PM is really the only holding that I can easily reconstruct.