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Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
by earendel
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
by flockofseagulls104
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:27 am
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
The quote he provides was from a Kremlin official.
I first found out about the cessation of cyber security monitoring of Russia on the FOXBusiness channel, which reported it.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 11:38 am
by flockofseagulls104
Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:27 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
The quote he provides was from a Kremlin official.
I first found out about the cessation of cyber security monitoring of Russia on the FOXBusiness channel, which reported it.
Gee, who was talking to you?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:33 pm
by earendel
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
You don't trust Secretary of Defense Hegseth? He's the one who ordered the stand down on cyber operations. You don't trust the White House? They announced the suspension of arms deliveries to Ukraine. You don't trust Dmitri Peskov (probably a good thing)? I provided a direct quote. And just to add a bit of background, Russia's vision is a restoration of the USSR, meaning the regaining of territories lost (such as Ukraine and the Balkan states).
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
by flockofseagulls104
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:33 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
You don't trust Secretary of Defense Hegseth? He's the one who ordered the stand down on cyber operations. You don't trust the White House? They announced the suspension of arms deliveries to Ukraine. You don't trust Dmitri Peskov (probably a good thing)? I provided a direct quote. And just to add a bit of background, Russia's vision is a restoration of the USSR, meaning the regaining of territories lost (such as Ukraine and the Balkan states).
Perhaps you might wait until there is a peace deal negotiated before you accuse Trump of some outlandish conspiracy theory that the deep state makes up and distributes to its pawns in the media. Aren't you tired of being made a fool of time and time again?
A deal with Zelenskyy to get peace in the region is back on the table. On OUR terms.
Or perhaps you think it is perfectly OK for the leader of a country, to which we have given 300+ billion dollars, to come into the Oval Office and threaten our country if he doesn't get what he wants. He could have done that with biden, but was very much mistaken he could do that now. I think he figured that out.
Why are you so against America having a backbone at long last?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:28 pm
by Bob Juch
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
The price of soybeans and corn is already dropping. (That's not a good thing.)
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:58 pm
by kroxquo
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:33 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:10 am
No, I don't trust the reporting you are basing your assumptions on. If you looked at the past performance of the sources of information you are relying for information about Donald Trump, you wouldn't trust the reporting either. They were proven wrong about almost everything. Yet you still listen to them.
I will wait and see what happens.
You don't trust Secretary of Defense Hegseth? He's the one who ordered the stand down on cyber operations. You don't trust the White House? They announced the suspension of arms deliveries to Ukraine. You don't trust Dmitri Peskov (probably a good thing)? I provided a direct quote. And just to add a bit of background, Russia's vision is a restoration of the USSR, meaning the regaining of territories lost (such as Ukraine and the Balkan states).
Perhaps you might wait until there is a peace deal negotiated before you accuse Trump of some outlandish conspiracy theory that the deep state makes up and distributes to its pawns in the media. Aren't you tired of being made a fool of time and time again?
A deal with Zelenskyy to get peace in the region is back on the table. On OUR terms.
Or perhaps you think it is perfectly OK for the leader of a country, to which we have given 300+ billion dollars, to come into the Oval Office and threaten our country if he doesn't get what he wants. He could have done that with biden, but was very much mistaken he could do that now. I think he figured that out.
Why are you so against America having a backbone at long last?
I've listened to the full exchange in the Oval Office. When did Zelensky threaten our country?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:43 pm
by flockofseagulls104
kroxquo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:58 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 2:33 pm
You don't trust Secretary of Defense Hegseth? He's the one who ordered the stand down on cyber operations. You don't trust the White House? They announced the suspension of arms deliveries to Ukraine. You don't trust Dmitri Peskov (probably a good thing)? I provided a direct quote. And just to add a bit of background, Russia's vision is a restoration of the USSR, meaning the regaining of territories lost (such as Ukraine and the Balkan states).
Perhaps you might wait until there is a peace deal negotiated before you accuse Trump of some outlandish conspiracy theory that the deep state makes up and distributes to its pawns in the media. Aren't you tired of being made a fool of time and time again?
A deal with Zelenskyy to get peace in the region is back on the table. On OUR terms.
Or perhaps you think it is perfectly OK for the leader of a country, to which we have given 300+ billion dollars, to come into the Oval Office and threaten our country if he doesn't get what he wants. He could have done that with biden, but was very much mistaken he could do that now. I think he figured that out.
Why are you so against America having a backbone at long last?
I've listened to the full exchange in the Oval Office. When did Zelensky threaten our country?
Zelenskyy: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you, but you have a nice ocean and but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
Oh really, Mr Zelenskyy? Thanks for informing us of that.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2025 10:05 pm
by flockofseagulls104
What exactly the fuck does the democrat party stand for?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:01 am
by earendel
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
Perhaps you might wait until there is a peace deal negotiated before you accuse Trump of some outlandish conspiracy theory that the deep state makes up and distributes to its pawns in the media. Aren't you tired of being made a fool of time and time again?
A deal with Zelenskyy to get peace in the region is back on the table. On OUR terms.
I'm not accusing Trump of anything. I merely noted that there has been a pause in arms shipments and cyber operations.
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
Or perhaps you think it is perfectly OK for the leader of a country, to which we have given 300+ billion dollars, to come into the Oval Office and threaten our country if he doesn't get what he wants. He could have done that with biden, but was very much mistaken he could do that now. I think he figured that out.
How did Zelensky threaten us? How could he (Ukraine) do anything to us? What he did was fact-check Trump, note that Putin has violated ceasefires in the past, and ask for some real security guarantees.
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
Why are you so against America having a backbone at long last?
What Trump has done toward Ukraine is not backbone, it's bullying.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:04 am
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:43 pm
kroxquo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 8:58 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:14 pm
Perhaps you might wait until there is a peace deal negotiated before you accuse Trump of some outlandish conspiracy theory that the deep state makes up and distributes to its pawns in the media. Aren't you tired of being made a fool of time and time again?
A deal with Zelenskyy to get peace in the region is back on the table. On OUR terms.
Or perhaps you think it is perfectly OK for the leader of a country, to which we have given 300+ billion dollars, to come into the Oval Office and threaten our country if he doesn't get what he wants. He could have done that with biden, but was very much mistaken he could do that now. I think he figured that out.
Why are you so against America having a backbone at long last?
I've listened to the full exchange in the Oval Office. When did Zelensky threaten our country?
Zelenskyy: A lot of questions. Let's start from the beginning. First of all, during the war, everybody has problems, even you, but you have a nice ocean and but don't feel now, but you will feel it in the future.
Oh really, Mr Zelenskyy? Thanks for informing us of that.
He was pretty, obviously suggesting that Russia could attack us next.
I mean, that’s obviously not true, because now we’re some sort of “ally” (that is, Trump now used to make money there), and it was always going to Europe that bore the brunt of Trump’s mistakes. But that’s what he was saying. Stop being so stupid.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 7:05 am
by Weyoun
If Trump had a “backbone,” wouldn’t he be standing up to Russia? That would be the tough, difficult thing to do. Shitting on Ukraine takes no courage; once again, I’m reminded that his old nickname was Bonespurs.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:28 am
by earendel
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
And now the US has stopped sharing intelligence data with Ukraine - data used by the Ukrainian military to target invading Russian forces and strike back at select targets inside Russia.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:32 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Yes, speaking of TDS.
I was hoping one or two of the leftists here would at least comment on what happened on Tuesday night.
But they are soooo lost in their TDS.
Not one democrat that I could see even put their hands together to acknowledge any of the people Trump honored. Not even the 13 year old with brain cancer who was made a Secret Service Officer. Your hatred for Trump overrides anything and everything else. Even pretending to be a decent human being. It is beyond shameful.
PS: I have heard there was ONE democrat who had the brains to applaud for DJ Daniels. Rep Lauren Gillen from Long Island, NY. Kudos to her.
https://www.tiktok.com/@jeffery.mead/vi ... uSpfNU8OYF
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rachel-maddo ... 19640.html
https://www.newsweek.com/msnbcs-nicolle ... or-2039965
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:40 pm
by Bob Juch
Trump's Joint Address by topic:
0 mentions of health care affordability
0 mentions of housing affordability
0 mentions of veterans
0 mentions of prescription drug costs
2 mentions of the Gulf of “America”
3 mentions of annexing Greenland
3 mentions of Elon Musk
5 mentions of tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and mega corporations
6 mentions of the Panama Canal
13 mentions of Joe Biden
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:40 pm
Trump's Joint Address by topic:
0 mentions of health care affordability
0 mentions of housing affordability
0 mentions of veterans
0 mentions of prescription drug costs
2 mentions of the Gulf of “America”
3 mentions of annexing Greenland
3 mentions of Elon Musk
5 mentions of tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and mega corporations
6 mentions of the Panama Canal
13 mentions of Joe Biden
Thanks for reposting some irrelevant garbage from some self-appointed 'expert' who could find nothing better to complain about.
What you don't acknowledge is that most of America (
76% according to polls, which you like so much) approved of most or everything he said. And most people who don't suffer from TDS were appalled at the uncouth,
rude and childish behavior of the democrats.
Keep posting your complaints.
We know they will never end. And most people know that's all you got. And how did it work for you?
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 5:53 pm
by tlynn78
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:40 pm
Trump's Joint Address by topic:
0 mentions of health care affordability
0 mentions of housing affordability
0 mentions of veterans
0 mentions of prescription drug costs
2 mentions of the Gulf of “America”
3 mentions of annexing Greenland
3 mentions of Elon Musk
5 mentions of tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and mega corporations
6 mentions of the Panama Canal
13 mentions of Joe Biden
Thanks for reposting some irrelevant garbage from some self-appointed 'expert' who could find nothing better to complain about.
What you don't acknowledge is that most of America (
76% according to polls, which you like so much) approved of most or everything he said. And most people who don't suffer from TDS were appalled at the uncouth,
rude and childish behavior of the democrats.
Keep posting your complaints.
We know they will never end. And most people know that's all you got. And how did it work for you?
I'm over hoping they learn and change how they do things.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:20 pm
by Weyoun
I had no interest in watching this week, nor did any of the correct minded people that I interact with did.
So yes, 76% of Trump fan boys probably did like the speech. Great.
Others are worried about the thousand point dip in the stock market, cutting down an area of trees greater than the size of California, cutting out cancer research while deputizing a boy with brain cancer, deputizing a boy brain cancer while letting the attackers of police go unpunished because they had the correct politics, getting rid of our ability to forecast tornadoes. Etc
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:41 pm
by Beebs52
Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:20 pm
I had no interest in watching this week, nor did any of the correct minded people that I interact with did.
So yes, 76% of Trump fan boys probably did like the speech. Great.
Others are worried about the thousand point dip in the stock market, cutting down an area of trees greater than the size of California, cutting out cancer research while deputizing a boy with brain cancer, deputizing a boy brain cancer
while letting the attackers of police go unpunished because they had the correct politics, getting rid of our ability to forecast tornadoes. Etc
WTF
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:01 am
by Weyoun
Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:41 pm
Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:20 pm
I had no interest in watching this week, nor did any of the correct minded people that I interact with did.
So yes, 76% of Trump fan boys probably did like the speech. Great.
Others are worried about the thousand point dip in the stock market, cutting down an area of trees greater than the size of California, cutting out cancer research while deputizing a boy with brain cancer, deputizing a boy brain cancer
while letting the attackers of police go unpunished because they had the correct politics, getting rid of our ability to forecast tornadoes. Etc
WTF
Indeed. We’ve had some unusual pardons in presidential history, but no president has pardoned so many people who assaulted police officers.
And to think that putting Leonard Peltier under house arrest was so controversial for some here.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:39 am
by Bob Juch
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:40 pm
Trump's Joint Address by topic:
0 mentions of health care affordability
0 mentions of housing affordability
0 mentions of veterans
0 mentions of prescription drug costs
2 mentions of the Gulf of “America”
3 mentions of annexing Greenland
3 mentions of Elon Musk
5 mentions of tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and mega corporations
6 mentions of the Panama Canal
13 mentions of Joe Biden
Thanks for reposting some irrelevant garbage from some self-appointed 'expert' who could find nothing better to complain about.
What you don't acknowledge is that most of America (
76% according to polls, which you like so much) approved of most or everything he said. And most people who don't suffer from TDS were appalled at the uncouth,
rude and childish behavior of the democrats.
Keep posting your complaints.
We know they will never end. And most people know that's all you got. And how did it work for you?
There is no way that 76% of Americans know what he said.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:33 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:39 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 2:40 pm
Trump's Joint Address by topic:
0 mentions of health care affordability
0 mentions of housing affordability
0 mentions of veterans
0 mentions of prescription drug costs
2 mentions of the Gulf of “America”
3 mentions of annexing Greenland
3 mentions of Elon Musk
5 mentions of tax handouts for the ultra-wealthy and mega corporations
6 mentions of the Panama Canal
13 mentions of Joe Biden
Thanks for reposting some irrelevant garbage from some self-appointed 'expert' who could find nothing better to complain about.
What you don't acknowledge is that most of America (
76% according to polls, which you like so much) approved of most or everything he said. And most people who don't suffer from TDS were appalled at the uncouth,
rude and childish behavior of the democrats.
Keep posting your complaints.
We know they will never end. And most people know that's all you got. And how did it work for you?
There is no way that 76% of Americans know what he said.
76% of those that listened to what he actually said agreed with it. Everyone who didn't watch it gets their opinion from all the bullshit, lies and crap you are posting.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2025 4:52 pm
by Bob Juch
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 1:33 pm
Bob Juch wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 11:39 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:12 pm
Thanks for reposting some irrelevant garbage from some self-appointed 'expert' who could find nothing better to complain about.
What you don't acknowledge is that most of America (
76% according to polls, which you like so much) approved of most or everything he said. And most people who don't suffer from TDS were appalled at the uncouth,
rude and childish behavior of the democrats.
Keep posting your complaints.
We know they will never end. And most people know that's all you got. And how did it work for you?
There is no way that 76% of Americans know what he said.
76% of those who listened to what he actually said agreed with it. Everyone who didn't watch it gets their opinion from all the bullshit, lies and crap you are posting.
Oh, so that's 76% of those who watched/listened to him. That makes sense. They were supporters before he spoke.
Re: Speaking of TDS
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:48 am
by earendel
earendel wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:28 am
earendel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 6:48 am
Flock (and others) - Now that the US has suspended arms shipments to Ukraine, now that the US has suspended cyber operations (both offensive and defensive) against Russia, now that US foreign policy "largely aligns with" Russia's vision (according to Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov), are you willing to say that Trump is wrong in these actions?
And now the US has stopped sharing intelligence data with Ukraine - data used by the Ukrainian military to target invading Russian forces and strike back at select targets inside Russia.
And now the US has stopped Ukraine from accessing commercial satellite imaging, allowing Russia to launch an attack that killed at least 14. Trump's comment? "That's what anyone would do." Right up there with his comment about Russia's "genius and "savvy" comments about Russia's initial attack.