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Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2025 7:52 pm
by Weyoun
Trump is trying to pull refugee protection for Venezuelans (remember, they are fleeing what is one of the most left-wing regimes in the world, according to Trumpers) but is now talking about granting refugee status to white South African farmers.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/africa/t ... index.html

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news ... productive

What gives? Why the disparity?

I find it interesting that Sec. Noem thinks that the situation in Venezuela has somehow greatly improved - this is news to those who have observed the situation, especially following the country's most recent sham election.

While flock/whitefailure might think that I am about to play the race card, I think it's also plausible that Trump is doing this to appease Musk.

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 5:57 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Hmm. Intrigued by this 'whitefailure' nickname you are giving me. Must be very clever, but I don't get it. Can you explain it to me? What it means?

Cause I want to react correctly. Should I pretend to be embarrassed, outraged, upset?

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:00 pm
by Beebs52
I'm a confirmed Lutheran. Why don't we hear from them? I actually don't care what Catholic bishops in Ven think. Nor do their beliefs coincide with mine, religiously.

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:43 pm
by Weyoun
Beebs52 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:00 pm
I'm a confirmed Lutheran. Why don't we hear from them? I actually don't care what Catholic bishops in Ven think. Nor do their beliefs coincide with mine, religiously.
https://lutheranworld.org/news/protecti ... -venezuela

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:03 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:43 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:00 pm
I'm a confirmed Lutheran. Why don't we hear from them? I actually don't care what Catholic bishops in Ven think. Nor do their beliefs coincide with mine, religiously.
https://lutheranworld.org/news/protecti ... -venezuela
Yes, they too are helping Venezuelans enter our country.

It is sad that their country is so corrupt and poor. It didn't used to be that way. Venezuela used to be a very wealthy country. They let it get there. They need to fix their own country rather than take advantage of ours. We have our own problems we need to take care of.

That has always been the left's argument about the military. That is now our argument about illegal immigration and foreign aid. And government corruption.

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:24 pm
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:03 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 7:43 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2025 6:00 pm
I'm a confirmed Lutheran. Why don't we hear from them? I actually don't care what Catholic bishops in Ven think. Nor do their beliefs coincide with mine, religiously.
https://lutheranworld.org/news/protecti ... -venezuela
Yes, they too are helping Venezuelans enter our country.

It is sad that their country is so corrupt and poor. It didn't used to be that way. Venezuela used to be a very wealthy country. They let it get there. They need to fix their own country rather than take advantage of ours. We have our own problems we need to take care of.

That has always been the left's argument about the military. That is now our argument about illegal immigration and foreign aid. And government corruption.
What would you suggest that “they” do? They had an election which is agreed to be a sham, and the folks who won were thrown in jail.

I realize your whole shitty world view is that, if it’s not happening to you, it’s not a problem.

But you don’t want to do nothing with Venezuela, so when there’s a refugee crisis, all you want to do is ship them back into a bad situation.

That’s great of you, whitefailure. But the problem is, if you keep letting that happen, it turns out some problems been out of control, and they do become your problem.

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2025 10:30 pm
by flockofseagulls104
They had an election which is agreed to be a sham, and the folks who won were thrown in jail.
Hmm. So did we. But we are fixing it.
But you don’t want to do nothing with Venezuela, so when there’s a refugee crisis, all you want to do is ship them back into a bad situation.
There are other ways of dealing with the problems Venezuela created for itself than transferring their population to our country, including all their criminals. They are creating a bad situation for US. Perhaps you don't understand that and think virtue signaling is going to solve all problems.

And please explain what 'whitefailure' is supposed to mean.

Re: Venezuelan vs South African refugees

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2025 10:46 am
by Beebs52
Notice the slant of the two articles. Bishops political, Lutherans this is what we're doing.