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What happened?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 7:14 pm
by Beebs52
?

Re: What happened?

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:20 pm
by flockofseagulls104
I don't know. Maybe they all have done some introspection and realized they were wrong about a great many things?

Nah....

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:10 am
by Weyoun
Nothing’s really changed? We have a guy nominated for secretary of defense, who apparently gets in fights and takes his employees to strip clubs. This is 2024. His nomination is not dead yet, but I will let you know when it is.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
by Weyoun
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
by flockofseagulls104
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:16 am
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Wait, so 10 people who work underneath the guy in a charity said he was a drunkard, but two people who hosted a weekend talk show with him (one, Rachel Campos-Duffy, essentially being a reality TV star heraelf) and for political reasons need to curry favor with Trump said he is not?

Gosh I am glad you are here to clarify everything.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:28 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:16 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Wait, so 10 people who work underneath the guy in a charity said he was a drunkard, but two people who hosted a weekend talk show with him (one, Rachel Campos-Duffy, essentially being a reality TV star heraelf) and for political reasons need to curry favor with Trump said he is not?

Gosh I am glad you are here to clarify everything.
Who are these people? Do they have names? Would we be able to recognize even one of them? What are THEIR political reasons?

The people who have put their names and careers on the line were NOT contacted by the 'journalists' who put together this hit piece, and came forward on their own to say these charges are bullshit (their words, not mine), when they just could have let it play out and not been affected by it.

I think they have more credibility, but that's just me.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:42 pm
by flockofseagulls104
So are you the only loudmouth on the left remaining on the bored, ifonly?

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:44 pm
by Beebs52
I'm sorry. I'm an enabler.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:14 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Beebs52 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:44 pm
I'm sorry. I'm an enabler.
:lol:

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:30 pm
by tlynn78
Beebs52 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:44 pm
I'm sorry. I'm an enabler.
You fomenter, you.

Apparently, licking of wounds is a solitary activity.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:31 pm
by tlynn78
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 8:20 pm
I don't know. Maybe they all have done some introspection and realized they were wrong about a great many things?

Nah....
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Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:47 pm
by kroxquo
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Let's put the lacivious accusations aside for a moment and just ask a practical question - What qualifications does he have to run the Defense Department? This is one of, if not THE largest organizations in the world. He is a National Guard veteran who has seen combat but has no senior command experience and has no experience in intelligence. He has never been the head of any organization larger than CVA which has at most, a few hundred employees. He has been described as "the least experienced nominee" for the position in history. So assuming that all the allegations against him are false, why should we have confidence that he is a good choice to run theis crucial department?

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:05 pm
by Beebs52
kroxquo wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:47 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Let's put the lacivious accusations aside for a moment and just ask a practical question - What qualifications does he have to run the Defense Department? This is one of, if not THE largest organizations in the world. He is a National Guard veteran who has seen combat but has no senior command experience and has no experience in intelligence. He has never been the head of any organization larger than CVA which has at most, a few hundred employees. He has been described as "the least experienced nominee" for the position in history. So assuming that all the allegations against him are false, why should we have confidence that he is a good choice to run theis crucial department?
McNamara, Rumsfeld, what qualifications?

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:19 pm
by jarnon
Beebs52 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:05 pm
McNamara, Rumsfeld, what qualifications?
Hegseth and Rumsfeld are both Princeton men. McNamara was a Cantab like his boss.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:22 pm
by Beebs52
In other words, meh.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:38 pm
by Spock
kroxquo wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:47 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Let's put the lacivious accusations aside for a moment and just ask a practical question - What qualifications does he have to run the Defense Department? This is one of, if not THE largest organizations in the world. He is a National Guard veteran who has seen combat but has no senior command experience and has no experience in intelligence. He has never been the head of any organization larger than CVA which has at most, a few hundred employees. He has been described as "the least experienced nominee" for the position in history. So assuming that all the allegations against him are false, why should we have confidence that he is a good choice to run theis crucial department?
You must have loved Rumsfeld back in the early 2000's. Why he had even been a previous SecDef back in the 70's. Right up your alley as to qualifications and such.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:21 pm
by flockofseagulls104
kroxquo wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:47 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:28 am
To further add:

Hegseth it was probably a drunkard. They’ve been very articles about this, including a report that he was meeting with Trump and others just a month ago stinking of alcohol.

He’s also financially unreliable. He used his first wife’s credit card to pay for hotel rooms to have affairs with his future wife. He always seems short of cash.

He ran two veteran nonprofits into the ground, with the suggestion being that it was his drunkenness that led to that.

And by the way, he’s never led any sort of position more significant than those nonprofits.

He’s obviously not qualified. Just because he goes on TV and says anti-woman comments does not change that.

Next.
The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Let's put the lacivious accusations aside for a moment and just ask a practical question - What qualifications does he have to run the Defense Department? This is one of, if not THE largest organizations in the world. He is a National Guard veteran who has seen combat but has no senior command experience and has no experience in intelligence. He has never been the head of any organization larger than CVA which has at most, a few hundred employees. He has been described as "the least experienced nominee" for the position in history. So assuming that all the allegations against him are false, why should we have confidence that he is a good choice to run theis crucial department?
He has been described as "the least experienced nominee" for the position in history.
By whom? By those currently in the prevailing toxic culture? We need to pick one of them, right? The same people whose experience in intelligence led to the Afghanistan withdrawl fiasco??

The man served on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and was awarded two Bronze Stars. He is a Major in the National Guard and a 20 year veteran.

Amazing that those people never questioned Kamala's qualifications or political viewpoint. Or Mayor Pete's. Or Rachel Levine's. Or anyone else in the biden-swamp administration.

A new perspective cannot hurt in this department. While the legacy media conglomerate is not at all afraid to give its audience all kinds of reasons why Hegseth shouldn't be confirmed, not a word on what is wrong with our military. Everything's hunky dory. And if he is not up to the job, trump has no shyness about firing people. There are many things that have to be fixed and reversed in our military, and as he was elected to be Commander-in-Chief, Trump gets to pick his department heads, just as biden did. And thank you for echoing the swamp viewpoint.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:21 pm
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:28 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:16 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:48 am

The accusations made against him seem to be by unnamed sources. The people who have worked closely with him have said, on the record, that these accusations are not true. They add that no 'journalist' ever bothered to contact them about this issue. Being a moron, I guess I'm mistaken that if you are going to publish a smear story like this, you might want to verify it with people who have day to day contact with the guy. Stupid me. I should know that because there are 'articles' about something, that means it's true.

You are exactly the kind of useful idiot the swamp counts on.
Wait, so 10 people who work underneath the guy in a charity said he was a drunkard, but two people who hosted a weekend talk show with him (one, Rachel Campos-Duffy, essentially being a reality TV star heraelf) and for political reasons need to curry favor with Trump said he is not?

Gosh I am glad you are here to clarify everything.
Who are these people? Do they have names? Would we be able to recognize even one of them? What are THEIR political reasons?

The people who have put their names and careers on the line were NOT contacted by the 'journalists' who put together this hit piece, and came forward on their own to say these charges are bullshit (their words, not mine), when they just could have let it play out and not been affected by it.

I think they have more credibility, but that's just me.
Sounds like we need a CONFIRMATION HEARING to confirm these claims.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:23 pm
by Weyoun
Btw it is not a red flag at all that Hegseth has vowed to not drink alcohol the next four years. No siree.

Re: What happened?

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 11:21 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 9:21 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 1:28 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:16 am


Wait, so 10 people who work underneath the guy in a charity said he was a drunkard, but two people who hosted a weekend talk show with him (one, Rachel Campos-Duffy, essentially being a reality TV star heraelf) and for political reasons need to curry favor with Trump said he is not?

Gosh I am glad you are here to clarify everything.
Who are these people? Do they have names? Would we be able to recognize even one of them? What are THEIR political reasons?

The people who have put their names and careers on the line were NOT contacted by the 'journalists' who put together this hit piece, and came forward on their own to say these charges are bullshit (their words, not mine), when they just could have let it play out and not been affected by it.

I think they have more credibility, but that's just me.
Sounds like we need a CONFIRMATION HEARING CIRCUS to confirm ratchet up these claims accusations.
Fixed it for you.