Recess Appointments
- kroxquo
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Recess Appointments
If there was still any doubt about how the 47th President could subvert the Constitution, Exhibit A is this post on Twitter:
“Any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!), without which we will not be able to get people confirmed in a timely manner."
In other words, he doesn't want to have to deal with all those pesky checks and balances that the framers put in the Constitution regarding advice and consent of Presidential appointments and instead wants the Senate leadership to declare it is in recess so he can go ahead an put in who he wants without discussion or debate about the fitness, interests, or competence of appointees. (And I know that some of our more pedantic contributors will point out that the Constitution does not specify cabinet positions since there is no mention of a cabinet, but the process has been enshrined in law and upheld by SCOTUS.)
And so it begins.
“Any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!), without which we will not be able to get people confirmed in a timely manner."
In other words, he doesn't want to have to deal with all those pesky checks and balances that the framers put in the Constitution regarding advice and consent of Presidential appointments and instead wants the Senate leadership to declare it is in recess so he can go ahead an put in who he wants without discussion or debate about the fitness, interests, or competence of appointees. (And I know that some of our more pedantic contributors will point out that the Constitution does not specify cabinet positions since there is no mention of a cabinet, but the process has been enshrined in law and upheld by SCOTUS.)
And so it begins.
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- BackInTex
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You clearly don’t value transparency. Don’t think, even remotely, that this isn’t the way the game is played on both sides. Trump is just being open about it.
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
- flockofseagulls104
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Re: Recess Appointments
It began a long time ago, krox. The swamp will do everything in its power, and not in its power, to block and sabotage everything he wants to do and he was elected to do. And they have been doing it for years already. They own Washington and the legacy media.kroxquo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:35 amIf there was still any doubt about how the 47th President could subvert the Constitution, Exhibit A is this post on Twitter:
“Any Republican Senator seeking the coveted LEADERSHIP position in the United States Senate must agree to Recess Appointments (in the Senate!), without which we will not be able to get people confirmed in a timely manner."
In other words, he doesn't want to have to deal with all those pesky checks and balances that the framers put in the Constitution regarding advice and consent of Presidential appointments and instead wants the Senate leadership to declare it is in recess so he can go ahead an put in who he wants without discussion or debate about the fitness, interests, or competence of appointees. (And I know that some of our more pedantic contributors will point out that the Constitution does not specify cabinet positions since there is no mention of a cabinet, but the process has been enshrined in law and upheld by SCOTUS.)
And so it begins.
Trump was elected overwhelmingly to change that. He will use what he can do LEGALLY to overcome that. Now what, krox, is illegal about what he is asking? Do you deny that the democrats will and have already planned to block in whatever way they can anything he proposes? I was on Gavin Newsome's zoom call the other day. They are not hiding it.
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I see Krox is doing a good job of not letting Trump live rent-free in his head anymore. LOL.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
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“I’m making fun of someone for posting too much on a politics board. - Spock.”Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:03 pmI see Krox is doing a good job of not letting Trump live rent-free in his head anymore. LOL.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
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He is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm“I’m making fun of someone for posting too much on a politics board. - Spock.”Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:03 pmI see Krox is doing a good job of not letting Trump live rent-free in his head anymore. LOL.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
- flockofseagulls104
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I liken him to the good pastor. Firebreath is probably now the second most hateful resident of the board. I put ifonly first, now, because of the frequency of his posts. The pastor saves them up.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pmHe is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm“I’m making fun of someone for posting too much on a politics board. - Spock.”Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:03 pmI see Krox is doing a good job of not letting Trump live rent-free in his head anymore. LOL.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
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- Weyoun
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You’ll be happy to hear that I’m not the least bit stressed about this. Kicking your creepy fascist ass around is great amusement to me.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pmHe is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:54 pm“I’m making fun of someone for posting too much on a politics board. - Spock.”Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:03 pmI see Krox is doing a good job of not letting Trump live rent-free in his head anymore. LOL.
Enjoy the next four years of bitter miserable obssession-On your death bed, I am sure you will say-"Gee, I am glad I spent so much time and effort obsessing over Trump.
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Breaking news. "Smart" Pennsylvania doctor shows his lack of wisdom by being strangely obsessed online with a Minnesota farmer.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 amYou’ll be happy to hear that I’m not the least bit stressed about this. Kicking your creepy fascist ass around is great amusement to me.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pmHe is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.
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Oh, and just for your communist, Mugabe supporting ass-"Make Zimbabwe Rhodesia Again."
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Creepy, fascist "wise" Minnesota farmer keeps randomly invoking my name, but he's not an obsessed with me, he says.Spock wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 10:49 amBreaking news. "Smart" Pennsylvania doctor shows his lack of wisdom by being strangely obsessed online with a Minnesota farmer.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 amYou’ll be happy to hear that I’m not the least bit stressed about this. Kicking your creepy fascist ass around is great amusement to me.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pm
He is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.
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Your meltdown is pretty freaking hilarious to the rest of us, too.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 amYou’ll be happy to hear that I’m not the least bit stressed about this. Kicking your creepy fascist ass around is great amusement to me.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pmHe is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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You find children caught in barbed wire in the Rio Grande to be funny, so you may not be the best judge.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 2:27 pmYour meltdown is pretty freaking hilarious to the rest of us, too.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2024 7:31 amYou’ll be happy to hear that I’m not the least bit stressed about this. Kicking your creepy fascist ass around is great amusement to me.Spock wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:29 pm
He is obviously welcome to post whatever he wants-but I can also make fun of his hysterical over-reaction to every little thing for years. I enjoy the stress that he has obviously put himself under and as a doctor, you might agree that this stress is probably not the best thing for his long-term health.
- Beebs52
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What the hell?
Well, then
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Another of his weird little fantasies. He seems to have plenty.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -Thomas Paine
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. -Ayn Rand
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
- BackInTex
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He is completely disconnected from reality.
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
- flockofseagulls104
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Number 1 on the hateful list.
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I don't understand the need for this. He has a Republican-majority Senate, which is the only body with the Constitutional responsibility to "advise and consent".
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You don't understand? Maybe you should ask Brett Kavanaugh. Or Clarence Thomas.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo
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Most of his reported appointments (Kristi Noem, Elise Stefanik, Marco Rubio, John Ratcliffe) will sail through the Senate. Others don’t require confirmation. His Department of Government Efficiency isn’t a real department, more like a policy think tank. Some like Pete Hegseth for SecDef could face pushback. No former generals so far - I suppose he soured on them since his first term.
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- flockofseagulls104
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Re: Recess Appointments
The democrats have been extensively planning to vigorously oppose and delay his agenda. Gavin Newsome's zoom meeting is just one example, and he was blatant enough to do it in public. Lord knows what they have up their sleeve that they've planned in private. I'm sure they have investigated every possible nominee's high school activities. And lined up people willing to slander any one of them. President Trump has learned a lot in the past 4 years and at last our side (WE THE PEOPLE) are seeing some push back against the 6 ways from Sunday tactics of the swamp and possibly some courage to take the fight to them.jarnon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:23 amMost of his reported appointments (Kristi Noem, Elise Stefanik, Marco Rubio, John Ratcliffe) will sail through the Senate. Others don’t require confirmation. His Department of Government Efficiency isn’t a real department, more like a policy think tank. Some like Pete Hegseth for SecDef could face pushback. No former generals so far - I suppose he soured on them since his first term.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo
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Wrong country Dude. Rhodesia did not have Apartheid, and as I am sure you know-in the 1920's there was a vote on whether or not to join Rhodesia to South Africa. I don't remember if that was just a Rhodesian vote-or included South Africa or whatever.
But, if Rhodesia had joined South Africa-Smuts would not have lost the 1948 election in South Africa and Apartheid would not have been a thing.
I am sure that you can enlighten us on how the minority Ndebele have faired under majority Shona rule in Zimbabwe and whether they might have faired better in Rhodesia.
But, I suspect that information and analysis on specific African tribes would be a little too granular for you as you just see them as an amorphous blob of African blacks.
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All it takes is a majority vote, so where's the problem? Could it be that there are some "RINOs" who might resist some of the nominations?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:32 amThe democrats have been extensively planning to vigorously oppose and delay his agenda. Gavin Newsome's zoom meeting is just one example, and he was blatant enough to do it in public. Lord knows what they have up their sleeve that they've planned in private. I'm sure they have investigated every possible nominee's high school activities. And lined up people willing to slander any one of them. President Trump has learned a lot in the past 4 years and at last our side (WE THE PEOPLE) are seeing some push back against the 6 ways from Sunday tactics of the swamp and possibly some courage to take the fight to them.jarnon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 10:23 amMost of his reported appointments (Kristi Noem, Elise Stefanik, Marco Rubio, John Ratcliffe) will sail through the Senate. Others don’t require confirmation. His Department of Government Efficiency isn’t a real department, more like a policy think tank. Some like Pete Hegseth for SecDef could face pushback. No former generals so far - I suppose he soured on them since his first term.
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Nice try, but when you assume I am a Communist based on my stated positions, I'll make the same leap and assume that you celebrate Hendrik Verwoerd's birthday.Spock wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:47 pmWrong country Dude. Rhodesia did not have Apartheid, and as I am sure you know-in the 1920's there was a vote on whether or not to join Rhodesia to South Africa. I don't remember if that was just a Rhodesian vote-or included South Africa or whatever.
But, if Rhodesia had joined South Africa-Smuts would not have lost the 1948 election in South Africa and Apartheid would not have been a thing.
I am sure that you can enlighten us on how the minority Ndebele have faired under majority Shona rule in Zimbabwe and whether they might have faired better in Rhodesia.
But, I suspect that information and analysis on specific African tribes would be a little too granular for you as you just see them as an amorphous blob of African blacks.