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On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:51 am
by Spock
Re-Iowa Poll

If anybody had (has) any doubts that the media lies to you and just makes stuff up and weaponizes polls to support their preferred narratives:

Consider that a (the?) major topic on the weekend before the election was some made-up crap poll in Iowa that had Harris winning the state by 3.

Trump is (has?) won Iowa by 13 plus points.

Re-Puerto Rico jokes

Are you guys glad that you spent a portion of your limited time on this earth being ostensibly offended by some comedian's joke about Puerto Rico?
Because Puerto Ricans apparently weren't. Trump did better with Puerto Ricans in Florida in 2024 than he did in 2020.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:23 am
by flockofseagulls104
I am not gloating. I am just presenting the facts.

The facts are that Kamala did not outperform Biden 2020 in ANY COUNTY IN THE US.

That fact, combined with all the evidence that has been unearthed about the 2020 election and ignored by the 'justice' system and especially the corporate media gives credible reasons to question where all those 'votes' for Biden came from. If they were actual valid votes.

We are NOT the election deniers. We look at facts and figures and what they tell us. Those that ignore the facts are the true election deniers.

And we will continue to investigate and document until the truth is finally revealed and SOMEONE is held accountable. And if the 'legacy' media does not correct the false narratives that they've spread for the past 4-8 years, they need to be held accountable.

This has to be fixed.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:28 am
by BackInTex
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:23 am
I am not gloating. I am just presenting the facts.

The facts are that Kamala did not outperform Biden 2020 in ANY COUNTY IN THE US.

That fact, combined with all the evidence that has been unearthed about the 2020 election and ignored by the 'justice' system and especially the corporate media gives credible reasons to question where all those 'votes' for Biden came from. If they were actual valid votes.

We are NOT the election deniers. We look at facts and figures and what they tell us. Those that ignore the facts are the true election deniers.

And we will continue to investigate and document until the truth is finally revealed and SOMEONE is held accountable. And if the 'legacy' media does not correct the false narratives that they've spread for the past 4-8 years, they need to be held accountable.

This has to be fixed.
What? You don’t believe 15 million Democrat who’s never voted before voted in 2020 and then decided not to again this year. Come on man!

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:42 am
by flockofseagulls104
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:28 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:23 am
I am not gloating. I am just presenting the facts.

The facts are that Kamala did not outperform Biden 2020 in ANY COUNTY IN THE US.

That fact, combined with all the evidence that has been unearthed about the 2020 election and ignored by the 'justice' system and especially the corporate media gives credible reasons to question where all those 'votes' for Biden came from. If they were actual valid votes.

We are NOT the election deniers. We look at facts and figures and what they tell us. Those that ignore the facts are the true election deniers.

And we will continue to investigate and document until the truth is finally revealed and SOMEONE is held accountable. And if the 'legacy' media does not correct the false narratives that they've spread for the past 4-8 years, they need to be held accountable.

This has to be fixed.
What? You don’t believe 15 million Democrat who’s never voted before voted in 2020 and then decided not to again this year. Come on man!
It was more like 20+ Million

They couldn't pull it off this time because the Trump campaign made it too big to rig AND they knew thousands of us were watching everything.
IMO we got the correct results. The candidate the people wanted got elected this time. But the fight is just starting to fix our election system so that we don't have to go through this kind of election ever again. This should be a priority for EVERYONE, regardless of your political views. Our election system should be simplified, we should scrap electronic election systems and go back to individual ballots that can be easily counted, and most of all, verified physically. By anyone who wants to. That is what the founders intended.

That is my new job.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
by flockofseagulls104
Image

Well, it does look like closer to 15 million manufactured ballots on this chart. But I think I think Biden got less Obama or Hillary to start with. I mean. c'mon. Can we get back to reality?

Anyone looking at this chart that still believes that Biden won 2020 has some mental deficiencies. You are the election deniers.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:18 am
by mrkelley23
At the risk of ripping scabs, you might want to wait until they actually finish counting votes before drawing conclusions.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:44 am
by BackInTex
mrkelley23 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 6:18 am
At the risk of ripping scabs, you might want to wait until they actually finish counting votes before drawing conclusions.
I thought about that this morning. California, the home of Silicon Valley and defacto US center of all things technology still has about 40% of their votes uncounted. That itself is disqualifying for CA leadership. They should be embarrassed.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:06 am
by jarnon
I don’t see what anyone has to gain by fabricating an inaccurate poll. It’s a distraction to the campaign workers and makes the media look bad. It was a mistake that had little impact on the outcome, as were those jokes that insulted potential voters.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:54 am
by Spock
jarnon wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:06 am
I don’t see what anyone has to gain by fabricating an inaccurate poll. It’s a distraction to the campaign workers and makes the media look bad. It was a mistake that had little impact on the outcome, as were those jokes that insulted potential voters.
They used the fabricated poll that was a complete outlier and was off by 16% as the base of their narrative over the last weekend before the election that Kamala was surging. They don't care if it makes them look bad-they lie to you.

Re-Puerto Rico jokes
Gee, too bad that the joke wasn't emphasized even more. Maybe Kamala would have won if they had.

This is what pisses me off-days wasted on a complete nothingburger that was a tale full of sound of fury signifying nothing just like the years of anti-Trump crap here.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:52 pm
by Spock
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1854551876915658935

I have seen this video other places-but I just looked quickly for it and found it on Matt Walsh.

This self-professed "Political Analyst" bought hook, line and sinker the media lies about the Iowa poll and the takeaway that Kamala was surging driven by the female vote and abortion.

I wonder if she will consider the next media driven narrative a little more carefully next time. Yeah, Right-next time the media pisses on her leg and tells her its raining she will be right there buying the narrative.

The MSM had to know she wasn't surging. They aren't totally stupid. They were obviously trying to depress the Trump turnout.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 am
by Weyoun
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
Image

Well, it does look like closer to 15 million manufactured ballots on this chart. But I think I think Biden got less Obama or Hillary to start with. I mean. c'mon. Can we get back to reality?

Anyone looking at this chart that still believes that Biden won 2020 has some mental deficiencies. You are the election deniers.
My understanding is that the totals likely will match very closely with 2020 when everything is actually counted. It is trending that way thus far.

I’m not really sure what was magically done to prevent cheating given that multiple states are run by Democrats and supposedly would’ve inflated numbers. Pennsylvania, for example.

On the other hand, this was a referendum on an popular administration with a candidate who failed to distinguish herself from that administration. It’s quite possible that people just like Trump more this time, and did not last time, after all those pandemic dead and such left a poor impression.

That would be the more plausible that also happens to fit the facts.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:59 am
by Weyoun
Spock wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:52 pm
https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1854551876915658935

I have seen this video other places-but I just looked quickly for it and found it on Matt Walsh.

This self-professed "Political Analyst" bought hook, line and sinker the media lies about the Iowa poll and the takeaway that Kamala was surging driven by the female vote and abortion.

I wonder if she will consider the next media driven narrative a little more carefully next time. Yeah, Right-next time the media pisses on her leg and tells her its raining she will be right there buying the narrative.

The MSM had to know she wasn't surging. They aren't totally stupid. They were obviously trying to depress the Trump turnout.
Just like the right wing alternative media, which is pretty widely available at this point, was saying a lot of stupid things too. As it turns out, people are motivated to support the people that they support.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:52 am
by kroxquo
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
Image

Well, it does look like closer to 15 million manufactured ballots on this chart. But I think I think Biden got less Obama or Hillary to start with. I mean. c'mon. Can we get back to reality?

Anyone looking at this chart that still believes that Biden won 2020 has some mental deficiencies. You are the election deniers.
Since the surge in votes for Biden in 2020 was totally attributable to cheating and foul play and all the votes for Trump were pure as driven snow, what accounts for the surge in his support in 2020?

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:17 pm
by flockofseagulls104
kroxquo wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 5:52 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:38 pm
Image

Well, it does look like closer to 15 million manufactured ballots on this chart. But I think I think Biden got less Obama or Hillary to start with. I mean. c'mon. Can we get back to reality?

Anyone looking at this chart that still believes that Biden won 2020 has some mental deficiencies. You are the election deniers.
Since the surge in votes for Biden in 2020 was totally attributable to cheating and foul play and all the votes for Trump were pure as driven snow, what accounts for the surge in his support in 2020?
IMO, his popularity, the success of his administration and the fact he actually campaigned as opposed to sitting in his basement. My vote is one that he didn't get in 2016 that he got in 2020.

What is your opinion on that?

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:34 pm
by jarnon
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:17 pm
IMO, his popularity, the success of his administration and the fact he actually campaigned as opposed to sitting in his basement. My vote is one that he didn't get in 2016 that he got in 2020.

What is your opinion on that?
IMO, missteps by the Clinton campaign, the impression that Trump was a lightweight, and widespread belief that Clinton would win tamped down turnout on both sides. In 2020, unique events such as the pandemic and George Floyd murder got everyone to vote.

Re: On Iowa Polls and Puerto Rican Jokes

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 7:34 pm
by flockofseagulls104
jarnon wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 6:34 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2024 12:17 pm
IMO, his popularity, the success of his administration and the fact he actually campaigned as opposed to sitting in his basement. My vote is one that he didn't get in 2016 that he got in 2020.

What is your opinion on that?
IMO, missteps by the Clinton campaign, the impression that Trump was a lightweight, and widespread belief that Clinton would win tamped down turnout on both sides. In 2020, unique events such as the pandemic and George Floyd murder got everyone to vote.
You might have noted that many states mailed ballots to everyone on their voter roll, which are all bloated with imaginary people. Many states changed their election procedures at the last minute, which is apparently unconstitutional. At least according to one corrupt activist judge in Fulton County GA.

The penalty for pointing that out is to be accused of starting an insurrection by the swamp and the media in one case, and being disbarred and bankrupted in another. And other punishments according to your political beliefs or party and how much of a threat you are to the approved narrative.