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Hezbollah Attack on Israel

#1 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 6:53 pm

Here is the Media Conglomerate's coverage of just another day in the life in Israel. We here in America and across the world are desensitized to it. We take it for granted and pretty much ignore it.

Here is what they don't show you. THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC. It shows the results of what Israel is experiencing. It might be pulled down by the time you see this. I believe Hezbollah has the technical ability to precisely target. If so, they did this on purpose. That is PURE EVIL. The war with Hezbollah is about to start.

WARNING: DEAD BODIES OF CHILDREN MURDERED BY HEZBOLLAH
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Oct 7th was this times 1000.

The Hamas protesters want this from the river to the sea.
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#2 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:49 pm

If you want to match graphic photos of dead children, I'm sure you can find just as many of dead Palestinian children. Neither of which excuses or justifies the other.
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#3 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:51 pm

Sss, seriously?
Well, then

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Re: Hezbollah Attack on Israel

#4 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:11 pm

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If you want to match graphic photos of dead children, I'm sure you can find just as many of dead Palestinian children. Neither of which excuses or justifies the other.
You are deluded, trollboy. You have no clue, do you? The Iranian proxy terrorists do this and celebrate it. And then they hide among their own civilian population hoping that many of them will be killed so they can provide pictures to use as propaganda. You are perpetuating and prolonging their evil.
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Re: Hezbollah Attack on Israel

#5 Post by BackInTex » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:47 pm

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Sat Jul 27, 2024 7:49 pm
If you want to match graphic photos of dead children, I'm sure you can find just as many of dead Palestinian children. Neither of which excuses or justifies the other.
The difference being these kids weren’t standing anywhere near a military target.
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Re: Hezbollah Attack on Israel

#6 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Jul 27, 2024 8:55 pm

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If you want to match graphic photos of dead children, I'm sure you can find just as many of dead Palestinian children. Neither of which excuses or justifies the other.
No, I don't want to match graphics of dead children, trollboy. That's your game. I want it to STOP. I want a peaceful world. But these animals won't ever stop. Apparently, only Israel has the will and the courage to stop them. The current puppet masters that control the Executive Branch and the democrat party have decided it's in their best interests to side with the terrorists. And the terrorists know that the current administration won't do anything about it. Especially now that biden is the lamest of lame ducks and Harris, if she even has any say in it, is on record sympathizing with Hamas. They have no clue that Israel is really fighting a 3 front war. That's who you are voting for, so you're a part of it. You side with the animals who did this. I hope you are proud.
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#7 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:44 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
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I want it to STOP. I want a peaceful world. But these animals won't ever stop. Apparently, only Israel has the will and the courage to stop them.
Well, nine months of yours and Netanyahu's tactics haven't resulted in peace or in eradicating Hamas; just in potentially escalating the war and alienating almost every other civilized country as a result of their tactics. And blaming Hezbollah isn't going to bring any of those children back to life or the thousands of dead Palestinians or the untold innocent Lebanese who will be killed if and when Israel launches a retaliatory strike against whoever it thinks is responsible for this latest attack. (By the way, Hezbollah denies it was responsible for the attack, and there are plenty of splinter groups capable of this latest strike.)

We could have been well on the way to stopping this if Israel had agreed to a ceasefire and the beginning of serious negotiations. That would have led the way to the return of the hostages and the neutralization of Hamas and a start towards the only effective long-term solution, a real two-state solution. But Netanyahu didn't want that, because he knows once this war is over, he's out. The ones who might effectively stop this are the other Arab countries who aren't too happy about Hamas. But the wholesale killings of Palestinian civilians and the lack of a ceasefire make their assistance less and less likely.

And by the way, I'm not suggesting that Israel not take action. Instead, they should do what they did effectively 40 years ago when incidents like this happened. Find out who was responsible and launch a targeted strike (either air or commandos) against them. Their intelligence capabilities are much better, and there's less of a risk of this turning into a full-scale invasion of Lebanon.
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Re: Hezbollah Attack on Israel

#8 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:41 am

That would have led the way to the return of the hostages and the neutralization of Hamas and a start towards the only effective long-term solution, a real two-state solution.
You are assuming that Hamas is a civilized group and that they want a two state solution. Every shred of real world evidence proves otherwise. Israel has tried everything, has agreed to everything and has endured everything for 75+ years. And the Palestinian leaders have spit in the face at every proposed solution. No other Arab state wants them. And for good reason. Show me one instance of any humanitarian thing done or said by the Palestinian or Hamas leadership. Just one.

For once and for all, let Israel, the only true free state in the region, deal with their situation as they need to. And since they are our ally, support them. The status quo is not acceptable. They have learned. You haven't.
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#9 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:22 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:41 am
For once and for all, let Israel, the only true free state in the region, deal with their situation as they need to.
How's that working out for them? They've had almost ten months and one of the world's best-equipped and most sophisticated militaries and intelligence forces, and they haven't been able to free the hostages (including several Americans) or subdue a piece of land the size of Philadelphia. They have been able to kill tens of thousands of civilians and alienate the entire civilized world except for Donald Trump and you. They haven't even been able to define their end goal beyond vague statements about "eliminating Hamas." Or what needs to happen after that. Do you have any idea what "eliminating Hamas" means?

Being an ally doesn't mean blindly following Netanyahu down whatever path he decides to go. Netanyahu is not very popular in Israel and would lose an election big time if it were held today. He understands that when this war is over, he's done politically. He wants to keep this going by maintaining unachievable vague goals as long as possible. And if a few thousand more Palesinians or a few dozen more hostages die, well it's all Hamas' fault.
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#10 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:32 am

And by the way, I'm not suggesting that Israel not take action. Instead, they should do what they did effectively 40 years ago when incidents like this happened. Find out who was responsible and launch a targeted strike (either air or commandos) against them. Their intelligence capabilities are much better, and there's less of a risk of this turning into a full-scale invasion of Lebanon.
Of course, trollboy. How dense of them. They should do what you advise, since you know everything about everything.

And since you know Netanyahu's mind and motivation in addition to everything about the situation, I think if there were any justice in this world, you should take his place.

Where do you get your chutzpah?
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#11 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:59 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:32 am
And since you know Netanyahu's mind and motivation in addition to everything about the situation, I think if there were any justice in this world, you should take his place.
Well, given a day or two to review the data, I could come up with a more coherent plan for ending the war than you or he has come up with.
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#12 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:40 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:59 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:32 am
And since you know Netanyahu's mind and motivation in addition to everything about the situation, I think if there were any justice in this world, you should take his place.
Well, given a day or two to review the data, I could come up with a more coherent plan for ending the war than you or he has come up with.
Of course, you could.
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#13 Post by Spock » Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:14 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:40 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:59 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 11:32 am
And since you know Netanyahu's mind and motivation in addition to everything about the situation, I think if there were any justice in this world, you should take his place.
Well, given a day or two to review the data, I could come up with a more coherent plan for ending the war than you or he has come up with.
Of course, you could.
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#14 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:45 pm

Spock wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 10:14 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 4:40 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:59 pm


Well, given a day or two to review the data, I could come up with a more coherent plan for ending the war than you or he has come up with.
Of course, you could.
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He's solved everyone's problems here on the bored. If only everyone would cooperate we'd all be in utopia!
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#15 Post by Weyoun » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:37 am

Do you think this should be the US is problem to fix?

Otherwise, why mention it? Aren’t you worried about what’s happening in Sudan? Why aren’t you worried about what is happening to people in Gaza?

(Rhetorical question).

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#16 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:20 am

Weyoun wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:37 am
Do you think this should be the US is problem to fix?

Otherwise, why mention it? Aren’t you worried about what’s happening in Sudan? Why aren’t you worried about what is happening to people in Gaza?

(Rhetorical question).
Exactly the opposite, doc. It's Israel's problem to fix. We should help them but not be a trollboy and get in their way.

Are you worried about what's happening in Sudan other than to use it as a distractor? The enemy of the people in Gaza is Hamas. When are you going to get that, doc?
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#17 Post by Spock » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:44 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:20 am
Weyoun wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:37 am
Do you think this should be the US is problem to fix?

Otherwise, why mention it? Aren’t you worried about what’s happening in Sudan? Why aren’t you worried about what is happening to people in Gaza?

(Rhetorical question).
Exactly the opposite, doc. It's Israel's problem to fix. We should help them but not be a trollboy and get in their way.

Are you worried about what's happening in Sudan other than to use it as a distractor? The enemy of the people in Gaza is Hamas. When are you going to get that, doc?
I love their argument that unless you care about everything, you can't care about anything. IOW, you can't be interested in any particular problem.

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#18 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:33 pm

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#19 Post by jarnon » Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:44 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:44 pm
And by the way, I'm not suggesting that Israel not take action. Instead, they should do what they did effectively 40 years ago when incidents like this happened. Find out who was responsible and launch a targeted strike (either air or commandos) against them. Their intelligence capabilities are much better, and there's less of a risk of this turning into a full-scale invasion of Lebanon.
I'm not ready to call SSS the reincarnation of Moshe Dayan, but I'm glad the IDF followed his advice this time.
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#20 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:06 pm

jarnon wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:44 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 10:44 pm
And by the way, I'm not suggesting that Israel not take action. Instead, they should do what they did effectively 40 years ago when incidents like this happened. Find out who was responsible and launch a targeted strike (either air or commandos) against them. Their intelligence capabilities are much better, and there's less of a risk of this turning into a full-scale invasion of Lebanon.
I'm not ready to call SSS the reincarnation of Moshe Dayan, but I'm glad the IDF followed his advice this time.
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#22 Post by earendel » Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:01 am

Your link leads to the wrong article - one about X being banned in Brazil.
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#23 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 8:20 am

earendel wrote:
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Your link leads to the wrong article - one about X being banned in Brazil.
Fixed it. Thanks
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#24 Post by Weyoun » Mon Sep 02, 2024 9:33 am

Israelis are on strike and protesting because they see what their government has been doing has failed. The hostages are no closer to getting home.

It turns out killing a bunch of children has not changed the resolve of the Palestinian leadership.

And more rockets are getting launched at Israel and it is threatening to become a wider conflict.

It’s clearly in the interest of the United States to force Israel to back off, to prevent a wider conflict. Additionally, there other countries around the world that have their own problems, and they resist US help, because they point out our somewhat hypocritical support for an Israeli regime that has no problem bombing children.

Israel’s government is straining under its purported principles. If we truly support democracy in the Middle East, perhaps we should ask Israel to reconsider and act more consistent with it states democratic heritage.

The downside, for some here, would be a fewer dead brown babies, but I would ask you to set that aside in the interest and needs of American foreign policy.

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#25 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:01 pm

What is your solution for the long run? Not being snarky.
Well, then

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