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Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#1 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon May 06, 2024 3:33 pm

Former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan wrote:It’s disappointing to watch an increasing number of Republicans fall in line behind former president Donald Trump. This includes some of his fiercest detractors, such as U.S. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu and former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr, who raised eyebrows during a recent interview by vowing to support the “Republican ticket.” This mentality is dead wrong. Yes, elections are a binary choice. Yes, serious questions linger about President Biden’s ability to serve until the age of 86. His progressive policies aren’t to conservatives’ liking.

But the GOP will never rebuild until we move on from the Trump era, leaving conservative (but not angry) Republicans like me no choice but to pull the lever for Biden. At the same time, we should work to elect GOP congressional majorities to block his second-term legislative agenda and provide a check and balance. The alternative is another term of Trump, a man who has disqualified himself through his conduct and his character. The headlines are ablaze with his hush-money trial over allegations of improper record-keeping for payments to conceal an affair with an adult-film star. Most important, Trump fanned the flames of unfounded conspiracy theories that led to the horrific events of Jan. 6, 2021. He refuses to admit he lost the last election and has hinted he might do so again after the next one. Trump has shown us who he is. We should believe him. To think he is going to change at the age of 77 is beyond improbable. The healing of the Republican Party cannot begin with Trump as president (and that’s aside from the untold damage that potentially awaits our country). A forthcoming Time magazine cover story lays out in stark terms “the outlines of an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world.”

Unlike Trump, I’ve belonged to the GOP my entire life. This November, I am voting for a decent person I disagree with on policy over a criminal defendant without a moral compass.
https://www.ajc.com/opinion/geoff-dunca ... nt=9777192

It's reassuring to know that there are still a few people with principles in the Republican party like Duncan and Liz Cheney. I disagree with his comments about Biden's policies (some of which I edited out of the part of the story I quoted) but he still understands the idea of country over party, something that seems to elude Mitch McConnell, Bill Barr, and many others.
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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#2 Post by BackInTex » Mon May 06, 2024 5:56 pm

Country over party means Democrats should be voting for Trump.

We disagree on what’s worse for the county. But IMO it is Biden, and the entire current leadership of the Dem party.

The person you quoted seems to say on the Republican side it’s just Trump.
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#3 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon May 06, 2024 7:21 pm

Give me a break. Duncan is a RINO in the same vein as Brad Raffensperger.
He became a CNN talking head.
He was one of those 'republicans' who let Warnock be elected by not voting at all.
He is exactly the kind of 'republican' that needs to be ignored from now on. You can have him.

We've got our republican state chairman trying to arbitrarily and singlehandedly oust his first and second vice chairs, who were elected by the delegates. A wonderful ploy borrowed from the democrats. The former republican leadership in our state is desperate, and Duncan is one of them.

Just who are you trying to convince of what?
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#4 Post by Weyoun » Mon May 06, 2024 7:23 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:21 pm
Give me a break. Duncan is a RINO in the same vein as Brad Raffensperger.
He became a CNN talking head.
He was one of those 'republicans' who let Warnock be elected by not voting at all.
He is exactly the kind of 'republican' that needs to be ignored from now on. You can have him.

Just who are you trying to convince of what?
Wasn’t it Trump who let Warnock get elected by complaining about the previous election? All his voters stayed home.

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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#5 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:23 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:21 pm
Give me a break. Duncan is a RINO in the same vein as Brad Raffensperger.
He became a CNN talking head.
He was one of those 'republicans' who let Warnock be elected by not voting at all.
He is exactly the kind of 'republican' that needs to be ignored from now on. You can have him.

Just who are you trying to convince of what?
Wasn’t it Trump who let Warnock get elected by complaining about the previous election? All his voters stayed home.
Wow, another troll. Can't even wait 5 seconds to think about what they are responding to.
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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#6 Post by Weyoun » Mon May 06, 2024 7:31 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:25 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:23 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:21 pm
Give me a break. Duncan is a RINO in the same vein as Brad Raffensperger.
He became a CNN talking head.
He was one of those 'republicans' who let Warnock be elected by not voting at all.
He is exactly the kind of 'republican' that needs to be ignored from now on. You can have him.

Just who are you trying to convince of what?
Wasn’t it Trump who let Warnock get elected by complaining about the previous election? All his voters stayed home.
Wow, another troll. Can't even wait 5 seconds to think about what they are responding to.
Do you even read what other people post?

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#7 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 07, 2024 12:47 am

BackInTex wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 5:56 pm
Country over party means Democrats should be voting for Trump.
Well, no. But this betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes us America.

It's our willingness to abide by the rule of law. Donny spits on the rule of law, considering himself above the law.

It's our willingness to abide by the results of free and fair democratic elections. Donny incited an armed insurrection, still refuses to acknowledge that he lost the election in the Electoral College (as well as by millions of popular votes), and is tacitly threatening to provoke another violent uprising if he loses again in November.

This is antithetical to who we are as a nation. We will survive policies I disagree with. But once a democracy governed by the rule of law is gone, we may never get it back.

Note, by the way, that it's the Biden Justice Department that is bringing charges against a Democratic Senator and a Democratic member of the House. And that Democratic House member has already won the nomination in a swing district. I can't imagine Donny allowing a Justice Department in his Administration to pursue charges against his political allies, but that's what it means to respect the rule of law. In contrast, Donny has said he will pardon the armed insurrectionists who tried, but failed, to keep him in power.



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#8 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 9:44 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:47 am
BackInTex wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 5:56 pm
Country over party means Democrats should be voting for Trump.
Well, no. But this betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes us America.

It's our willingness to abide by the rule of law. Donny spits on the rule of law, considering himself above the law.

It's our willingness to abide by the results of free and fair democratic elections. Donny incited an armed insurrection, still refuses to acknowledge that he lost the election in the Electoral College (as well as by millions of popular votes), and is tacitly threatening to provoke another violent uprising if he loses again in November.

This is antithetical to who we are as a nation. We will survive policies I disagree with. But once a democracy governed by the rule of law is gone, we may never get it back.

Note, by the way, that it's the Biden Justice Department that is bringing charges against a Democratic Senator and a Democratic member of the House. And that Democratic House member has already won the nomination in a swing district. I can't imagine Donny allowing a Justice Department in his Administration to pursue charges against his political allies, but that's what it means to respect the rule of law. In contrast, Donny has said he will pardon the armed insurrectionists who tried, but failed, to keep him in power.



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#9 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 9:49 am

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 9:44 am
I can't imagine Donny allowing a Justice Department in his Administration to pursue charges against his political allies, but that's what it means to respect the rule of law. In contrast, Donny has said he will pardon the armed insurrectionists who tried, but failed, to keep him in power.

--Bob
But you can imagine Biden allowing the JD to pursue bogus charges against his political opponents.

What about pardoning the unarmed protesters? Would that be O.K.?
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#10 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 9:49 am
But you can imagine Biden allowing the JD to pursue bogus charges against his political opponents.

What about pardoning the unarmed protesters? Would that be O.K.?
II don't have to imagine Donny using the Justice Department to attack his political opponents. He's already said he'll do that.

There is nothing bogus about the charges Donny is facing. He's live his entire life believing he's immune from the law, so over the years his willingness to flout it has only increased. All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct. Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?

No, it's not okay to pardon insurrectionists. Even those who weren't armed. --Bob
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#11 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 10:26 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?
Name the charge and provide someone (on the Democrat side) who has gone to prison for the charge.
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#12 Post by tlynn78 » Tue May 07, 2024 10:36 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 9:49 am
But you can imagine Biden allowing the JD to pursue bogus charges against his political opponents.

What about pardoning the unarmed protesters? Would that be O.K.?
II don't have to imagine Donny using the Justice Department to attack his political opponents. He's already said he'll do that.

There is nothing bogus about the charges Donny is facing. He's live his entire life believing he's immune from the law, so over the years his willingness to flout it has only increased. All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct beating Hillary. Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?

No, it's not okay to pardon insurrectionists. Even those who weren't armed. --Bob
Fixed it. And by the way, the bolded portion of your comment? That's not the way the law is supposed to work. I'd think a 'fine' lawyer would know that.
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#13 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 07, 2024 10:58 am

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:26 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?
Name the charge and provide someone (on the Democrat side) who has gone to prison for the charge.
Since Alvin Bragg became New York's DA, he has emphasized the prosecution of white collar crimes, including the business record falsification act that Trump allegedly violate. And people have been going to jail as a result:
A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of former President Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under New York State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled by the rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?

Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree is commonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highly organized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal cases across all the New York district attorneys’ offices.
https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/surv ... s-records/

Many of the more recent indictments haven't come to trial yet. But I found records of a Morgan Stanley executive getting a 2-6 year sentence for larceny and falsifying business records. A Citigroup executive was sentenced to 2 years for falsifying records in connection with taking bribes from contractors. This was John Cassisi, a former child actor who was a regular on the Fish TV series in the 70s. These two cases were well publicized in New York when they occurred.
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#14 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 07, 2024 11:13 am

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:26 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?
Name the charge and provide someone (on the Democrat side) who has gone to prison for the charge.
First you have to name Democrats who have done what Donny did. That includes inciting insurrection and refusing to return, and then concealing his possession of, classified documents.

Not to mention 10 counts of criminal contempt of court. --Bob
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#15 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am

tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:36 am
Fixed it. And by the way, the bolded portion of your comment? That's not the way the law is supposed to work. I'd think a 'fine' lawyer would know that.
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#16 Post by tlynn78 » Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:36 am
Fixed it. And by the way, the bolded portion of your comment? That's not the way the law is supposed to work. I'd think a 'fine' lawyer would know that.
Don't lie by rewriting my comment, materially changing its meaning, and then characterizing your language as my comment. Have the courage to own your own delusions. --Bob
LOL! That's funny, I don't care who you are. Reading is fundamental.
I stated "the bolded portion of your comment. No lie in what I said, boo. I'd say "good try," but it wasn't.

Bobbles: " All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct"

THAT is not how the legal system is supposed to work. You know it - you just don't care.
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#17 Post by Bob78164 » Tue May 07, 2024 12:21 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:36 am
Fixed it. And by the way, the bolded portion of your comment? That's not the way the law is supposed to work. I'd think a 'fine' lawyer would know that.
Don't lie by rewriting my comment, materially changing its meaning, and then characterizing your language as my comment. Have the courage to own your own delusions. --Bob
LOL! That's funny, I don't care who you are. Reading is fundamental.
I stated "the bolded portion of your comment. No lie in what I said, boo. I'd say "good try," but it wasn't.

Bobbles: " All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct"

THAT is not how the legal system is supposed to work. You know it - you just don't care.
You added the words "beating Hilary" (in bold) to describe the conduct leading to his reckoning and characterized those words as mine. That characterization is a lie. Which, just like your hero, you're now doubling down on. --Bob
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#18 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 12:54 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:58 am
BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:26 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?
Name the charge and provide someone (on the Democrat side) who has gone to prison for the charge.
Since Alvin Bragg became New York's DA, he has emphasized the prosecution of white collar crimes, including the business record falsification act that Trump allegedly violate. And people have been going to jail as a result:
A core crime that the Manhattan District Attorney will likely include in an indictment of former President Donald Trump is “falsifying business records in the first degree,” a felony under New York State law (N.Y. Penal Code § 175.10). Prosecutors and indeed all of us are compelled by the rule of law to consider how such a charge compares to past prosecutions. Are like cases being treated alike?

Here it appears they are. Prosecution of falsifying business records in the first degree is commonplace and has been used by New York district attorneys’ offices to hold to account a breadth of criminal behavior from the more petty and simple to the more serious and highly organized. We reach this conclusion after surveying the past decade and a half of criminal cases across all the New York district attorneys’ offices.
https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/surv ... s-records/

Many of the more recent indictments haven't come to trial yet. But I found records of a Morgan Stanley executive getting a 2-6 year sentence for larceny and falsifying business records. A Citigroup executive was sentenced to 2 years for falsifying records in connection with taking bribes from contractors. This was John Cassisi, a former child actor who was a regular on the Fish TV series in the 70s. These two cases were well publicized in New York when they occurred.
In those cases there were actual victims. Try again.
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#19 Post by tlynn78 » Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:21 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am
Don't lie by rewriting my comment, materially changing its meaning, and then characterizing your language as my comment. Have the courage to own your own delusions. --Bob
LOL! That's funny, I don't care who you are. Reading is fundamental.
I stated "the bolded portion of your comment. No lie in what I said, boo. I'd say "good try," but it wasn't.

Bobbles: " All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct"

THAT is not how the legal system is supposed to work. You know it - you just don't care.
You added the words "beating Hilary" (in bold) to describe the conduct leading to his reckoning and characterized those words as mine. That characterization is a lie. Which, just like your hero, you're now doubling down on. --Bob
Reading comprehension really isn't your thing, is it?
Did you miss the part where I typed "Fixed it" ? I believe it's general knowledge in these parts that those words indicate the author has changed a previous quote. If these words are too big for you, let me know.
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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#20 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 11:13 am
BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:26 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 10:07 am
Or do you think Donny should get to engage in conduct that would have put anyone else in jail a long time ago?
Name the charge and provide someone (on the Democrat side) who has gone to prison for the charge.
First you have to name Democrats who have done what Donny did. That includes inciting insurrection and refusing to return, and then concealing his possession of, classified documents.

Not to mention 10 counts of criminal contempt of court. --Bob
President Trump did not incite an insurrection, otherwise he would have been charged and convicted, I'd hope.

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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#21 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 12:57 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:21 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:05 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 11:15 am
Don't lie by rewriting my comment, materially changing its meaning, and then characterizing your language as my comment. Have the courage to own your own delusions. --Bob
LOL! That's funny, I don't care who you are. Reading is fundamental.
I stated "the bolded portion of your comment. No lie in what I said, boo. I'd say "good try," but it wasn't.

Bobbles: " All that's happening now is a long-overdue reckoning for his conduct"

THAT is not how the legal system is supposed to work. You know it - you just don't care.
You added the words "beating Hilary" (in bold) to describe the conduct leading to his reckoning and characterized those words as mine. That characterization is a lie. Which, just like your hero, you're now doubling down on. --Bob
Yeah, she should have just said "decided to run a second term". That is what instigated these prosecutions. The beating Hillary thing was the reason was being impeached.


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#22 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 07, 2024 12:59 pm

It's interesting that Georgia's current Lt. Governor, Burt Jones, has criticized Daniels for his stance in this matter. Jones is currently under investigation by the special prosecutor for his role in the fake elector scheme that Trump and the others are on trial for in Georgia.
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#23 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue May 07, 2024 1:01 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm
President Trump did not incite an insurrection, otherwise he would have been charged and convicted, I'd hope.

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That's part of what he's on trial for in Georgia and Washington, DC.
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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#24 Post by BackInTex » Tue May 07, 2024 2:15 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 1:01 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm
President Trump did not incite an insurrection, otherwise he would have been charged and convicted, I'd hope.

Facts
That's part of what he's on trial for in Georgia and Washington, DC.
Really? IF they thought he incited an insurrection why were charges not brought immediatly in 2021, or even 2022? Why wait until 2023? That's rhetorical. I know the answer.
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Re: Another Real Republican Endorses Biden

#25 Post by Weyoun » Tue May 07, 2024 2:39 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 2:15 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 1:01 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 12:55 pm
President Trump did not incite an insurrection, otherwise he would have been charged and convicted, I'd hope.

Facts
That's part of what he's on trial for in Georgia and Washington, DC.
Really? IF they thought he incited an insurrection why were charges not brought immediatly in 2021, or even 2022? Why wait until 2023? That's rhetorical. I know the answer.
Because this stuff takes a while? The Tree of Life shooting (gunman with easy access to gun murdered old people because they were JewS) happened in 2018, and he wasn't convicted or sentence until 2023. Federal trial, BTW.

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