Re: Super Tuesday Open Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:16 pm
Why? Where is the harm?
To be more precise, the State Board of Elections found (unanimously, if memory serves) that one of Harris's consultants had violated North Carolina's rules against ballot-harvesting. Again if memory serves, it was not established that Harris knew about this violation, but he nonetheless declined to run again when the election was invalidated. I'm pretty sure the consultant was eventually convicted for his crimes (I think he pled guilty). --Bobjarnon wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 12:50 pmAlso in North Carolina, Rev. Mark Harris is a Republican candidate for Congress. He thought he had been elected in 2018, but his close victory was invalidated when some absentee ballots for him were found to be bogus. His tag line: “In 2020, Democrats stole the election from President Trump. The year before, they did it to me.”
Depending on the age of the class...the ensuing questions. Are you okay with furries, those who like bestiality, those who marry trees, those who dress as whatever? The crux is sexuality, whether simply dress wise or as a lifestyle. Don't know if you have young children.
Would you have a problem with men wearing kilts reading to young children? How about women wearing pants?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:55 pm"As someone who doesn’t care, one way or the other, the thought that a bunch of creeps like you would make sure that someone incompetent is in charge, just to ensure that there would be no drag queen, ever, reading to a kid, is bizarre"
Weyoun, do you have young children?
Specious argument. I included age restriction. Read. Read.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:38 pmWould you have a problem with men wearing kilts reading to young children? How about women wearing pants?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:55 pm"As someone who doesn’t care, one way or the other, the thought that a bunch of creeps like you would make sure that someone incompetent is in charge, just to ensure that there would be no drag queen, ever, reading to a kid, is bizarre"
Weyoun, do you have young children?
What is the harm with men reading to children while wearing clothing and make-up traditionally associated (in modern-day America) with women? Is the fear that kids might accidentally learn tolerance?
And yes, Weyoun has kids. I have one as well. --Bob
Make the kids any age you want. What's the harm? (Other than they might accidentally learn tolerance of fashion choices currently in the minority.) --BobBeebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:26 pmSpecious argument. I included age restriction. Read. Read.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:38 pmWould you have a problem with men wearing kilts reading to young children? How about women wearing pants?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:55 pm"As someone who doesn’t care, one way or the other, the thought that a bunch of creeps like you would make sure that someone incompetent is in charge, just to ensure that there would be no drag queen, ever, reading to a kid, is bizarre"
Weyoun, do you have young children?
What is the harm with men reading to children while wearing clothing and make-up traditionally associated (in modern-day America) with women? Is the fear that kids might accidentally learn tolerance?
And yes, Weyoun has kids. I have one as well. --Bob
Kilt is an historical costume. I said the ensuing questions. Oh, Ms/Mr whoever why are you wearing fake boobs, lipstick , etc? Stop being obtuse.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:29 pmMake the kids any age you want. What's the harm? (Other than they might accidentally learn tolerance of fashion choices currently in the minority.) --BobBeebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:26 pmSpecious argument. I included age restriction. Read. Read.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:38 pmWould you have a problem with men wearing kilts reading to young children? How about women wearing pants?
What is the harm with men reading to children while wearing clothing and make-up traditionally associated (in modern-day America) with women? Is the fear that kids might accidentally learn tolerance?
And yes, Weyoun has kids. I have one as well. --Bob
Do you think kids ask women why they wear lipstick? If so, why would guys give a different answer. "Because I like the way it makes my lips look." Why are you wearing . . . ?" "Because I like the way they make me look."
Sorry, Beebs - that last is not possible.
So if the witch shows up for Halloween and wears a long prosthetic nose and a gray hair wig, or someone shows up as Santa Claus and wears a fake beard, what will they say when the kids ask them about their get up?
I'd much rather have my kids and grandkids learn about tolerance than to grow up like Flock or Spock.
Were those experienced women lawyers also sporting fake beards and/or mustaches?Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:49 pmDo you think kids ask women why they wear lipstick? If so, why would guys give a different answer. "Because I like the way it makes my lips look." Why are you wearing . . . ?" "Because I like the way they make me look."
I'm not being obtuse. If the kids ask those questions at all, there are perfectly anodyne answers available. Do you really think kids are going to appreciate the difference between a man wearing a kilt and a man wearing a skirt? Or care?
It used to be socially shocking when a woman wore slacks, and in fact at the start of my career I ran into experienced women lawyers who got hassled by judges early in their careers unless they wore dresses. We're no longer in that world and I consider it progress. It certainly hasn't hurt anyone, including the kids who are exposed to women who wear slacks. --Bob
Having to bite my lip.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:53 pmI'd much rather have my kids and grandkids learn about tolerance than to grow up like Flock or Spock.
How many of you tolerant ones would be comfortable with this gentleman escorting your child or grandchild to a bathroom?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:24 am
It is sickening that there's even one photo of this.
Halloween vs real life ie school.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:51 pmSo if the witch shows up for Halloween and wears a long prosthetic nose and a gray hair wig, or someone shows up as Santa Claus and wears a fake beard, what will they say when the kids ask them about their get up?
The same as the drag queen. It's part of my costume.
I would. And yes, I have three grown children and 7 grandchildren ranging from 11 - 1 1/2.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:58 pmHow many of you tolerant ones would be comfortable with this gentleman escorting your child or grandchild to a bathroom?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:24 am
It is sickening that there's even one photo of this.
How is that more inappropriate than this? I know a lot of people who are scared of clowns. Drag queens... it just seems to be Flock.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:48 amAnd yes, krox, that's the problem. IMO and that of many others, it is in no way appropriate in any context. But it is being forced upon us.kroxquo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:36 amSorry, but I see nothing wrong with it.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 11:24 am
It is sickening that there's even one photo of this.