OK I'll admit it

[flockofseagulls104]

TRAVIS:

Ok. I’ll admit it.

Now, what’s your compromise?

Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.

This will be a debate between you and me, travis. NO OTHERS. I am not repressnting anyone's views but my own, and you are representing YOUR views on this subject. Anybody else posting on this thread will render it over and done with. And no posting links to/from 'experts'. For every expert you have, I can find a contradictory expert and vice versa. It is a waste of time.

This will be a debate of OUR opinions, no one else's.
I can't stop anyone from creating another thread to discuss this thread. But I can only hope you will not violate the intended spirit of this thread.

You have stated you admit that a fertilized egg is a human being. OK. We have that established.

What do you want?

I will start with a non-legalese statement. This is where I want to start. Don't pick on semantics, read it and understand its intended meaning.

Two people, one male and one female, who intentionally or unintentionally, produce another human life, are legally responsible for the well-being of that life. Except in specific circumstances, (which will be debated later), these two people have the responsibility for care of this human life from its conception until the life reaches the age of majority. They are forbidden to arbitrarily end that life except in specific circumstances.

This is probably not going to work, I know that from the start. But it will be a whole lot better than the way we debate things now. And to show if we can possibly do it at all.

[wbtravis007]

TRAVIS:

Ok. I’ll admit it.

Now, what’s your compromise?

Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.

This will be a debate between you and me, travis. NO OTHERS. I am not repressnting anyone's views but my own, and you are representing YOUR views on this subject. Anybody else posting on this thread will render it over and done with. And no posting links to/from 'experts'. For every expert you have, I can find a contradictory expert and vice versa. It is a waste of time.

This will be a debate of OUR opinions, no one else's.
I can't stop anyone from creating another thread to discuss this thread. But I can only hope you will not violate the intended spirit of this thread.

You have stated you admit that a fertilized egg is a human being. OK. We have that established.

What do you want?

I will start with a non-legalese statement. This is where I want to start. Don't pick on semantics, read it and understand its intended meaning.

Two people, one male and one female, who intentionally or unintentionally, produce another human life, are legally responsible for the well-being of that life. Except in specific circumstances, (which will be debated later), these two people have the responsibility for care of this human life from its conception until the life reaches the age of majority. They are forbidden to arbitrarily end that life except in specific circumstances.

This is probably not going to work, I know that from the start. But it will be a whole lot better than the way we debate things now. And to show if we can possibly do it at all.

Never mind. I take it back.

Good grief.

[flockofseagulls104]

TRAVIS:

Ok. I’ll admit it.

Now, what’s your compromise?

Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.

This will be a debate between you and me, travis. NO OTHERS. I am not repressnting anyone's views but my own, and you are representing YOUR views on this subject. Anybody else posting on this thread will render it over and done with. And no posting links to/from 'experts'. For every expert you have, I can find a contradictory expert and vice versa. It is a waste of time.

This will be a debate of OUR opinions, no one else's.
I can't stop anyone from creating another thread to discuss this thread. But I can only hope you will not violate the intended spirit of this thread.

You have stated you admit that a fertilized egg is a human being. OK. We have that established.

What do you want?

I will start with a non-legalese statement. This is where I want to start. Don't pick on semantics, read it and understand its intended meaning.

Two people, one male and one female, who intentionally or unintentionally, produce another human life, are legally responsible for the well-being of that life. Except in specific circumstances, (which will be debated later), these two people have the responsibility for care of this human life from its conception until the life reaches the age of majority. They are forbidden to arbitrarily end that life except in specific circumstances.

This is probably not going to work, I know that from the start. But it will be a whole lot better than the way we debate things now. And to show if we can possibly do it at all.

Never mind. I take it back.

Good grief.

Point confirmed. You are not a serious person. Good luck.

[wbtravis007]

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[quote=flockofseagulls104 post_id=602082 time=<a href="tel:1700175685">1700175685</a> user_id=53]
TRAVIS:

Ok. I’ll admit it.

Now, what’s your compromise?

Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.

This will be a debate between you and me, travis. NO OTHERS. I am not repressnting anyone's views but my own, and you are representing YOUR views on this subject. Anybody else posting on this thread will render it over and done with. And no posting links to/from 'experts'. For every expert you have, I can find a contradictory expert and vice versa. It is a waste of time.

This will be a debate of OUR opinions, no one else's.
I can't stop anyone from creating another thread to discuss this thread. But I can only hope you will not violate the intended spirit of this thread.

You have stated you admit that a fertilized egg is a human being. OK. We have that established.

What do you want?

I will start with a non-legalese statement. This is where I want to start. Don't pick on semantics, read it and understand its intended meaning.

Two people, one male and one female, who intentionally or unintentionally, produce another human life, are legally responsible for the well-being of that life. Except in specific circumstances, (which will be debated later), these two peopl
TRAVIS:

Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.

This will be a debate between you and me, travis. NO OTHERS. I am not repressnting anyone's views but my own, and you are representing YOUR views on this subject. Anybody else posting on this thread will render it over and done with. And no posting links to/from 'experts'. For every expert you have, I can find a contradictory expert and vice versa. It is a waste of time.

This will be a debate of OUR opinions, no one else's.
I can't stop anyone from creating another thread to discuss this thread. But I can only hope you will not violate the intended spirit of this thread.

You have stated you admit that a fertilized egg is a human being. OK. We have that established.

What do you want?

I will start with a non-legalese statement. This is where I want to start. Don't pick on semantics, read it and understand its intended meaning.

Two people, one male and one female, who intentionally or unintentionally, produce another human life, are legally responsible for the well-being of that life. Except in specific circumstances, (which will be debated later), these two people have the responsibility for care of this human life from its conception until the life reaches the age of majority. They are forbidden to arbitrarily end that life except in specific circumstances.

This is probably not going to work, I know that from the start. But it will be a whole lot better than the way we debate things now. And to show if we can possibly do it at all.

Never mind. I take it back.

Good grief.
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Point confirmed. You are not a serious person. Good luck.
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I knew you’d never answer my question about what your “compromise” (your word) would be; i.e., under what circumstances you’d consider it to be appropriate for a baby (your characterization) to be killed.

Anyway, I appreciate your good wishes. Maybe you’re a little more mature than I had thought.

[flockofseagulls104]

TRAVIS:Ok. I’ll admit it.

Now, what’s your compromise?

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ME:
Against my better judgment, I will play. I will engage in a debate with you on this subject. A serious debate. At the first sign of you injecting any bullshit, it is over. I don't consider you, based on your history on this board, a serious person. But I will give you a chance.
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This is probably not going to work, I know that from the start. But it will be a whole lot better than the way we debate things now. And to show if we can possibly do it at all.

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TRAVIS:
Never mind. I take it back.

Good grief.
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ME:
Point confirmed. You are not a serious person. Good luck.
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TRAVIS:
I knew you’d never answer my question about what your “compromise” (your word) would be; i.e., under what circumstances you’d consider it to be appropriate for a baby (your characterization) to be killed.

Anyway, I appreciate your good wishes. Maybe you’re a little more mature than I had thought.

I was willing to explore my thoughts and convictions in a debate, rather than just throw barbs and links at each other. Maybe I would learn more about myself and learn things from a different perspective. But that seems to be beyond the scope of this bored. We seem to be happy just yelling at each other and telling the other guy how stupid they are.

Edited to make it more followable.