One strong possibility is both.
Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
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Re: Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
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~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
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- Weyoun
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Re: Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
If I was both, your inability to get a good argument in would not exactly make you look that smart either, would it?
What’s telling to me is that reflexively, when any of you guys bring up immigration, you go to violent crime. Laken Riley was immediately thrown into my face.
As we all know, the vast majority of immigrants are not violent criminals.
As a back up, you pretend you’re humanitarians.
I remember one time, tlynn suggested that all these folks must have measles, so they can’t come over. I pointed out evidence to do alternative, but either way, I suggested, why not just give them measles vaccines? Seems like it would be and everyone’s interest. She had no answer (she never does).
If they want to work, why not make sure their wages are good? I have a hard time believing that the folks who bitch about “living wages” and act super libertarian about wages otherwise are suddenly concerned about how much chicken sorters make.
Nah. Laken Riley is the tell. It’s not that there’s no violent crime, and we shouldn’t minimize it. It is the assumption that you folks think that migrants are inherently violent and dangerous relative to others just because they crossed a border. Now why do you think that?
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Re: Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
Because recently a lot of traffickers, druggies, came across too easily. And kill peeps and sell kids etc. Not to mention non Latino crossers, ie terrorists.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:40 pm
What’s telling to me is that reflexively, when any of you guys bring up immigration, you go to violent crime. Laken Riley was immediately thrown into my face.
As we all know, the vast majority of immigrants are not violent criminals.
As a back up, you pretend you’re humanitarians.
Nah. Laken Riley is the tell. It’s not that there’s no violent crime, and we shouldn’t minimize it. It is the assumption that you folks think that migrants are inherently violent and dangerous relative to others just because they crossed a border. Now why do you think that?
I don't pretend to be humanitarian. Just do what I can. And, yes, we go to violent crime examples when it can be hindered, you.fucking.idiot.
Well, then
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Re: Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
I can't quite make up my mind whether you are simply an inveterate liar, incredibly dense, or both. Please point out where I ever said "all these folks must have measles, so they can't come over." Oh, wait, don't waste your time, as that never happened. As I recall, I was commenting regarding a measles outbreak, and suggested it might have to do with hundreds of thousands of unvetted migrants entering the US from 3rd world countries with less than stellar vaccine practices. But you have zero interest in actual facts, you've just taken that discussion and blown it up to barely recognizable proportions, then restate it as fact - a rather repetitive habit of yours.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:40 pmIf I was both, your inability to get a good argument in would not exactly make you look that smart either, would it?
What’s telling to me is that reflexively, when any of you guys bring up immigration, you go to violent crime. Laken Riley was immediately thrown into my face.
As we all know, the vast majority of immigrants are not violent criminals.
As a back up, you pretend you’re humanitarians.
I remember one time, tlynn suggested that all these folks must have measles, so they can’t come over. I pointed out evidence to do alternative, but either way, I suggested, why not just give them measles vaccines? Seems like it would be and everyone’s interest. She had no answer (she never does).
If they want to work, why not make sure their wages are good? I have a hard time believing that the folks who bitch about “living wages” and act super libertarian about wages otherwise are suddenly concerned about how much chicken sorters make.
Nah. Laken Riley is the tell. It’s not that there’s no violent crime, and we shouldn’t minimize it. It is the assumption that you folks think that migrants are inherently violent and dangerous relative to others just because they crossed a border. Now why do you think that?
It's a very simple fact, one I believe even you can grasp, that Laken Riley would more than likely still be alive if our immigration laws were being followed. Here's a quote:
"In FY 2023, ICE also arrested 73,822 noncitizens with criminal histories. These noncitizens had 290,178 associated charges and convictions, including homicide, assault, sex and sexual assault, weapons offenses, and kidnapping. " Those are the ones they actually caught. You can argue it's a drop in the bucket compared to home-grown crime, but it would be a much smaller "drop" if our existing laws were enforced.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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Re: Apparently, diversity caused the plane crash
Here’s the thing. If you propose that folks responsible for such crimes, or suspected, as such, just were deported, I think you would have a super majority of American supporting you. I would be one of those.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:07 pmI can't quite make up my mind whether you are simply an inveterate liar, incredibly dense, or both. Please point out where I ever said "all these folks must have measles, so they can't come over." Oh, wait, don't waste your time, as that never happened. As I recall, I was commenting regarding a measles outbreak, and suggested it might have to do with hundreds of thousands of unvetted migrants entering the US from 3rd world countries with less than stellar vaccine practices. But you have zero interest in actual facts, you've just taken that discussion and blown it up to barely recognizable proportions, then restate it as fact - a rather repetitive habit of yours.Weyoun wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 1:40 pmIf I was both, your inability to get a good argument in would not exactly make you look that smart either, would it?
What’s telling to me is that reflexively, when any of you guys bring up immigration, you go to violent crime. Laken Riley was immediately thrown into my face.
As we all know, the vast majority of immigrants are not violent criminals.
As a back up, you pretend you’re humanitarians.
I remember one time, tlynn suggested that all these folks must have measles, so they can’t come over. I pointed out evidence to do alternative, but either way, I suggested, why not just give them measles vaccines? Seems like it would be and everyone’s interest. She had no answer (she never does).
If they want to work, why not make sure their wages are good? I have a hard time believing that the folks who bitch about “living wages” and act super libertarian about wages otherwise are suddenly concerned about how much chicken sorters make.
Nah. Laken Riley is the tell. It’s not that there’s no violent crime, and we shouldn’t minimize it. It is the assumption that you folks think that migrants are inherently violent and dangerous relative to others just because they crossed a border. Now why do you think that?
It's a very simple fact, one I believe even you can grasp, that Laken Riley would more than likely still be alive if our immigration laws were being followed. Here's a quote:
"In FY 2023, ICE also arrested 73,822 noncitizens with criminal histories. These noncitizens had 290,178 associated charges and convictions, including homicide, assault, sex and sexual assault, weapons offenses, and kidnapping. " Those are the ones they actually caught. You can argue it's a drop in the bucket compared to home-grown crime, but it would be a much smaller "drop" if our existing laws were enforced.
The bridge too far is deporting everybody, and the bridge all the way to Mars is family separation.