Election Integrity Speech

[flockofseagulls104]

Why is it, ear, that you think there is only conservative bias in journalism? Somehow, the obvious leftists in the news media, especially those with the most severe cases of TDS, are viewed by people like you as somehow completely without any bias. I've never seen you diss anyone in the MSM like you posted above. Why is that?

So you don't like Steve Bannon? OK. Why is he any different than George Stephanopolus? Shouldn't you dismiss everything he reports on? Why the double standard, ear?

Look at what she has reported. Examine it for yorself and at least try and be objective instead of injecting YOUR bias into it. Can you find anywhere that she lied about anything?

I didn't say that there was no liberal bias - or conservative bias - in the media. Nor am I saying that what she wrote isn't true. I merely pointed out that Ms. Winters has a perspective that informs her writing, and that is something important to know.

Oh really? You always try and convince me you are a non partisan observer and above it all. It is important to know this? Somehow you neglect to point out similar important points in other situations. Your double standards are very apparent.

[silverscreenselect]

And I would appreciate it if you could point to one single declassified document that indicated China did anything illegal. All they did was gain access to publicly available voter information (just like you and your buddies did in Georgia) and paid influencers to market themselves more favorably in social media (just like thousands of private corporations and other organizations do).

Pointing to several that are linked to in this article.

Foreign-agent filings reveal that operatives working for a Chinese Communist Party-linked influence organization planned free trips for American journalists based on the potential for “favorable coverage” and sought to “effectively disseminate positive messages” about Beijing.

And what was illegal about the Chinese government sponsoring a junket for press representatives at which they presented favorable information about themselves? That goes on all the time. It's been going on for years. From a 2009 article:

Yesterday a pretty smart person who we like decided to point a rather fat finger at the terrible sell-out journalists who went on an all-expenses-paid luxury resort nonstop-feast-and-drink corporate-sponsored vacation to Jamaica last weekend, shaming them for their bad ethics and assumed forthcoming lack of impartiality in print. Guess what? I was one of them and I had a blast! Thanks Thrillist, Jet Blue, Iberostar Resorts, Starbucks, Pom, Gillette, Cold-Eeze®, Sandals, and H&M!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/i-total ... ss-junket/

[flockofseagulls104]

And I would appreciate it if you could point to one single declassified document that indicated China did anything illegal. All they did was gain access to publicly available voter information (just like you and your buddies did in Georgia) and paid influencers to market themselves more favorably in social media (just like thousands of private corporations and other organizations do).

Pointing to several that are linked to in this article.

Foreign-agent filings reveal that operatives working for a Chinese Communist Party-linked influence organization planned free trips for American journalists based on the potential for “favorable coverage” and sought to “effectively disseminate positive messages” about Beijing.

And what was illegal about the Chinese government sponsoring a junket for press representatives at which they presented favorable information about themselves? That goes on all the time. It's been going on for years. From a 2009 article:

Yesterday a pretty smart person who we like decided to point a rather fat finger at the terrible sell-out journalists who went on an all-expenses-paid luxury resort nonstop-feast-and-drink corporate-sponsored vacation to Jamaica last weekend, shaming them for their bad ethics and assumed forthcoming lack of impartiality in print. Guess what? I was one of them and I had a blast! Thanks Thrillist, Jet Blue, Iberostar Resorts, Starbucks, Pom, Gillette, Cold-Eeze®, Sandals, and H&M!

https://www.vice.com/en/article/i-total ... ss-junket/

Wow! Really? You want to take this post back?

Yes, it has been going on for a lot longer than that. Jane Fonda had a great trip back in 68 or 69.

These kind of bribes disguised as "junkets" would be fine but questionable for travel editors or foodies. But for supposed news reporters? Especially when they don't report them and come back and do stories cozying up to the CCP and bashing Trump.

So where's your defense of Fauci? Hmm. Wonder if he went on a "junket" to Wuhan

[silverscreenselect]

These kind of bribes disguised as "junkets" would be fine but questionable for travel editors or foodies. But for supposed news reporters? Especially when they don't report them and come back and do stories cozying up to the CCP and bashing Trump.

So where's your defense of Fauci? Hmm. Wonder if he went on a "junket" to Wuhan

From what I've been able to gather from your source, the trips these journalists took were not the sort of luxury vacation in Jamaica from my source. These were working trips to meet with various officials and tour government and business sites and get information that's not readily available to Western journalists. Was the information given out by the Chinese biased in their favor? Of course. Did they invite journalists who were generally considered liberal? Of course. But these were working trips that gave the journalists access to information they otherwise wouldn't have had. It was then up to the journalists to evaluate the information they got and separate the wheat from the chaff in their reporting, the same as they do with any press release they receive from a business.

Again, where is anything illegal?

As for Fauci, I confess I've been out of town for a few days and am not up to date on whatever the latest blow-up about Fauci is, other than to realize he's been in the news a lot this week.

[flockofseagulls104]

You are making me dizzy with all the contortions you are putting us through to swallow your 'analysis' of buying leftist useful idiot reporters.
Anyway, I would say you've been out of town for several years now...

Going back to another one of your gems:

All they did was gain access to publicly available voter information

I wanted to make sure before I answered this disinformation. I verified it multiple times with people I know who would know.

I am very familiar with the Georgia Voter Roll. More so than the people who are supposed to maintain it. The publicly available voter roll (for which they charge $475, when it does not cost them a thing once they compile it) does not include (for obvious reasons and good reasons) any PII (Personal Identification Information) like Social Security numbers, Full Birthdates, Driver Licenses, etc. The SOS has that information, (and so does the federal government), but they redact it in what they sell to the public.

What the Chinese have gotten includes the PII. You've been regurgitating more bullshit. They did not just get 'publicly available information'. That makes a BIG difference, SSS.

[earendel]

Why is it, ear, that you think there is only conservative bias in journalism? Somehow, the obvious leftists in the news media, especially those with the most severe cases of TDS, are viewed by people like you as somehow completely without any bias. I've never seen you diss anyone in the MSM like you posted above. Why is that?

So you don't like Steve Bannon? OK. Why is he any different than George Stephanopolus? Shouldn't you dismiss everything he reports on? Why the double standard, ear?

Look at what she has reported. Examine it for yorself and at least try and be objective instead of injecting YOUR bias into it. Can you find anywhere that she lied about anything?

I didn't say that there was no liberal bias - or conservative bias - in the media. Nor am I saying that what she wrote isn't true. I merely pointed out that Ms. Winters has a perspective that informs her writing, and that is something important to know.

Oh really? You always try and convince me you are a non partisan observer and above it all. It is important to know this? Somehow you neglect to point out similar important points in other situations. Your double standards are very apparent.

Every time I try to reason with you, I get slapped in the face. It's just not worth it. But, because I'm a glutton for punishment, I'll add another comment. Especially as a non-partisan observer it is important to know the biases of the individual. That doesn't make what the person says true or false but it does show the potential for slanting the statement.

[flockofseagulls104]

I didn't say that there was no liberal bias - or conservative bias - in the media. Nor am I saying that what she wrote isn't true. I merely pointed out that Ms. Winters has a perspective that informs her writing, and that is something important to know.

Oh really? You always try and convince me you are a non partisan observer and above it all. It is important to know this? Somehow you neglect to point out similar important points in other situations. Your double standards are very apparent.

Every time I try to reason with you, I get slapped in the face. It's just not worth it. But, because I'm a glutton for punishment, I'll add another comment. Especially as a non-partisan observer it is important to know the biases of the individual. That doesn't make what the person says true or false but it does show the potential for slanting the statement.

Thanks for pointing that out for readers of MY post referring to the source I cited. I was just pointing out that you never seem to do that when SSS or bob cites one of their sources. Just sayin'

[earendel]

Oh really? You always try and convince me you are a non partisan observer and above it all. It is important to know this? Somehow you neglect to point out similar important points in other situations. Your double standards are very apparent.

Every time I try to reason with you, I get slapped in the face. It's just not worth it. But, because I'm a glutton for punishment, I'll add another comment. Especially as a non-partisan observer it is important to know the biases of the individual. That doesn't make what the person says true or false but it does show the potential for slanting the statement.

Thanks for pointing that out for readers of MY post referring to the source I cited. I was just pointing out that you never seem to do that when SSS or bob cites one of their sources. Just sayin'

Perhaps it's because I already know their biases. Until your post I hadn't heard of Ms. Winters. So, as you always encourage, I did some research.

[silverscreenselect]

I personally showed my Election Board 126 genuine, unquestionable illegal registrations in 2024. They weren't interested. About 100 of them are still there.

The Hunt for Noncitizen Voters in Georgia Yields Few Results

[Georgia] State officials released results from a citizenship review on Tuesday that found about 430 voters who cast ballots at some point over the past 30 years may not be citizens. Georgia currently has nearly 8.2 million registered voters. “Election integrity isn’t a slogan. It is the daily work of checking the voter rolls, verifying eligibility, sharing information with our counties and continually improving our systems,” Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said in a statement.

Trump has revived his 2020 election fraud claims, alleging that noncitizens cast thousands of illegal votes across the nation. About 400 of those in the Census report are from Georgia. The Census Bureau’s preliminary analysis of 128 million voters found with “high confidence” that 24,000 noncitizens illegally cast ballots. Another 32 million remain to be analyzed, according to the report. Election experts have questioned the analysis’ methodology, saying it could have generated false positives. Gabriel Sterling of Georgia’s secretary of state’s office raised whether they factored in derived citizens, who are children granted citizenship through the naturalization of their parents or other select circumstances and may not have certificates proving their citizenship status. Sterling said the office has requested to see the Census Bureau’s data. “I just don’t think there were that many in Georgia, quite frankly,” he said.

Even if the figures held up under further scrutiny and all of those ballots were cast for Democrat Joe Biden, it wouldn’t have changed the outcome of Trump’s loss across the country, nor in Georgia. Biden won Georgia by 11,779 votes. When state officials ran voter data through the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to verify citizenship status, 2,500 people were identified as potential noncitizens. State officials found most of those voters were already placed in a pending status after applying to register to vote, meaning election officials needed more information to verify the citizenship of those voters. Such voters can still show up to the polls and cast a ballot as long as they provide ID and proof of citizenship.

The secretary of state’s office has conducted its own reviews of the state’s voter rolls, finding scattered instances of possible noncitizens casting ballots but not enough to swing an election. The latest review showed about 430 potential noncitizens who have voted at some point within the last three decades. It included information from the DHS’s SAVE database and an audit by the Georgia Department of Audits and Accounts. In 2024, state election officials found 20 voter registrations out of more than 8 million to be noncitizens, but only nine had previously voted.

430 possible non-citizens voting in 30 years. That's a little over 10 per year. Maybe Flock was sharp enough to spot 126 out of those 430. Or maybe his spreadsheets aren't as sharp as he thinks. Or maybe Brad Raffensparger is part of the big election conspiracy.

[flockofseagulls104]

Or maybe Brad Raffensparger is part of the big election conspiracy.

Yes. He most certainly is. As is Gabe Sterling. And so is the AJC.

[earendel]

Or maybe Brad Raffensparger is part of the big election conspiracy.

Yes. He most certainly is. As is Gabe Sterling. And so is the AJC.

Are the illegal voters you found non-citizens, or were they illegal for another reason?

[flockofseagulls104]

Or maybe Brad Raffensparger is part of the big election conspiracy.

Yes. He most certainly is. As is Gabe Sterling. And so is the AJC.

Are the illegal voters you found non-citizens, or were they illegal for another reason?

Congrats to you.

SSS has no idea what he's talking about, as usual. He just does another knee jerk slam on me showing me has no idea or comprehension of even the most basic facts. I could have corrected his stupid assumption, but why waste the time? He never thinks about what he reads or what anyone else says. He just reacts with whatever bullshit he can concoct. At least you have shown some comprehension.

Yeah, you are correct. I never said I found illegal aliens on the voter roll. How can I? The democrats in Washington have made it impossible to identify those who have broken our laws by being here illegally. They have actually invited them here and helped them break our laws. But that's another discussion that is worthless to have with the brain dead leftists on this board.

So, at the risk of all the crap the braindead here will throw at me, I'll tell you, since you asked nicely.

A few years ago, I naively followed the law here in Georgia and filed several citizen challenges of illegal REGISTRATIONS I found on my COUNTY's voter roll. In compliance with the law, I compiled PROOF of the law violations I found regarding these REGISTRATIONS and submitted this to the county Election Board. ONE of these challenges was showing proof that there were at least 126 REGISTRATIONS that had a residential address that was actually a US Post Office or a UPS Store. I provided individual photos and Google Map hyperlinks that showed exactly what buildings were at the addresses listed on the Registration as the Residence Address (as opposed to the Mailing Address). It was a lot of work, but I felt I was helping the election office. I had the expertise to examine large databases, as that was my career, and I was able to get a spreadsheet of the county voter roll and load it into a database and do queries, table joins and complicated data analysis. For SSS's information, I don't deal with spreadsheets.

These REGISTRATIONS were unquestionably illegal according to Georgia Law. They were a felony, and I provided the GA Law Citations. They are illegal because there is no way to determine if the elector using the Post Office Address (most likely a PO Box) actually lived in the designated precinct, the district, the municipality, the county or even the state the elector was assigned to.

I made a point that I was NOT accusing anyone of a felony. I had no standing to do so, even if I wanted to. I was informing the Election Board and the Election Office of these issues, and asked them to address them by trying to contact the elector (voter) that was registered and correct the registration and comply with the law.

The Board, as was and continues to be their history, voted to deny the challenge (and every other challenge that has been brought to them that I know of) by the infamous PARTISAN 3-2 vote. I respectfully asked them for an explanation why the challenge was being rejected, but they ignored the request and took no action and allowed the obviously and unquestionably illegal REGISTRATIONS to remain on the voter roll. Last time I bothered to check, a few months ago, there were still over 100 of THIS CATEGORY of illegal registrations in MY COUNTY. And over the years, several of them have been used to cast votes.

So, you tell me. I KNOW that there are illegal registrations on the voter roll. Not only in that category, but in many others. And I only use the data that the state provides to the public, which has no personal identification information. (But, guess what? China has it!) Many other people with access to more data than me and who have more specific experience with election issues than I do have presented their evidence of problems with the election system directly to Brad Raffensperger and other people that have the responsibility of overseeing the elections in our state. And they are met with the same thing that I experienced. Silence regarding the evidence and proclamations that everything is just peachy with no hard evidence supporting their claims that everything is peachy except more proclamations by people or entities that they reference that proclaim they found no problems.

So excuse me for having no confidence with anything coming from Brad Raffensperger or Gabe Sterling. They are proven liars. And yes, I think they are part of a conspiracy. If not to manipulate elections, at least to cover their own asses.