Our war machine has been co-opted by Israel

[Weyoun]

AIPAC is at the point to where they are gloating about their influence in American elections.

Massie was an oddball, but certainly unique, and an important voice.

He incurred the ite of Trump because he wanted to investigate Trump’s pedophilia. He incurred the ire of Israel because he sees how foolish our support of their murder state is.

[flockofseagulls104]

Can't resist this one.
So ifonly is joining the Jew hating brigade now. Is he swallowing the dog rape stories, too?

It must be so confusing to be a democrat-leftist-communist with TDS these days. Do they not remember just a little while ago when they were jumping up and down accusing trump of being an anti-semite jew hater, even when his daughter and grandchildren are Jewish? Those of us with clear minds do. I guess when your attack doesn't work, just switch it to the opposite. Truth doesn't matter, just the effect of the accusation.

There still is no reasonable answer as to why, when they held all 3 branches of the federal government, biden's autopenners did not open up the Epstein files to show us all how much of a pedophile trump was. They certainly were not shy about attacking trump with everything including the kitchen sink. Could it be that biden was sympathic in this area, having routinely showered with his adolescent daughter. We'll never know, will we?

And it is good to see that ifonly is clinging to and sticking with his racist 'whitefailure' epithet for me. Didn't he notice that the SPLC F'ed A and they FO. I guess I'm a failure because they didn't pay me. What a maroon.

[Weyoun]

Can't resist this one.
So ifonly is joining the Jew hating brigade now. Is he swallowing the dog rape stories, too?

It must be so confusing to be a democrat-leftist-communist with TDS these days. Do they not remember just a little while ago when they were jumping up and down accusing trump of being an anti-semite jew hater, even when his daughter and grandchildren are Jewish? Those of us with clear minds do. I guess when your attack doesn't work, just switch it to the opposite. Truth doesn't matter, just the effect of the accusation.

There still is no reasonable answer as to why, when they held all 3 branches of the federal government, biden's autopenners did not open up the Epstein files to show us all how much of a pedophile trump was. They certainly were not shy about attacking trump with everything including the kitchen sink. Could it be that biden was sympathic in this area, having routinely showered with his adolescent daughter. We'll never know, will we?

And it is good to see that ifonly is clinging to and sticking with his racist 'whitefailure' epithet for me. Didn't he notice that the SPLC F'ed A and they FO. I guess I'm a failure because they didn't pay me. What a maroon.

If Canada spent tens of millions to support Gallrein, what would your opinion of Canada be?

[flockofseagulls104]

Can't resist this one.
So ifonly is joining the Jew hating brigade now. Is he swallowing the dog rape stories, too?

It must be so confusing to be a democrat-leftist-communist with TDS these days. Do they not remember just a little while ago when they were jumping up and down accusing trump of being an anti-semite jew hater, even when his daughter and grandchildren are Jewish? Those of us with clear minds do. I guess when your attack doesn't work, just switch it to the opposite. Truth doesn't matter, just the effect of the accusation.

There still is no reasonable answer as to why, when they held all 3 branches of the federal government, biden's autopenners did not open up the Epstein files to show us all how much of a pedophile trump was. They certainly were not shy about attacking trump with everything including the kitchen sink. Could it be that biden was sympathic in this area, having routinely showered with his adolescent daughter. We'll never know, will we?

And it is good to see that ifonly is clinging to and sticking with his racist 'whitefailure' epithet for me. Didn't he notice that the SPLC F'ed A and they FO. I guess I'm a failure because they didn't pay me. What a maroon.

If Canada spent tens of millions to support Gallrein, what would your opinion of Canada be?

You have learned well from SSS. Ignore the points that were made that you cannot answer and go on to something else.
The answer to your question:
The same as it is for EVERY person or entity that is not specifically connected to that district or state that tries to influence the vote of that district or state with their 'non partisan' NGOs and dirty money, whether it is from the right or the left. Outside money should not be allowed in campaigns, but how can you do that and enforce it, even if by some miracle someone even proposed such a thing? But it is your corrupt political party that established the precedent and utilizes it to an extreme level. We know about that here in Georgia, especially. And I have seen it personally. Your glass house must be pretty breezy. You guys really hate it when your opposition starts doing what you have done for years and years. I think that's one of the major reasons you hate trump.

[Beebs52]

"If Canada spent tens of millions to support Gallrein, what would your opinion of Canada be?"

I'm oblivious, apparently. What the fuck does this have to do with anything remotely important in the long run?

[flockofseagulls104]

"If Canada spent tens of millions to support Gallrein, what would your opinion of Canada be?"

I'm oblivious, apparently. What the fuck does this have to do with anything remotely important in the long run?

Deflection, like always.

[Weyoun]

Dunno, it seems that a foreign government paying huge sums to front candidates that will do things like supporting: (1) giving weapons to them, or (2) joining them in stupid wars, or (3) encourage our government to strip funding from their opponents (like universities) - that would be a BIG DEAL for the America First crowd.

Remember: the Zionists (different than the Jews) went after cancer research at our Ivy League schools because they were so mad students on campus were pro-Palestinian. They don’t care about you, and by implication candidates that they support will not care about you either

[jarnon]

Please don’t lump all Israelis and Zionists with the Jewish nationalist settler crowd. Sadly the right wing has co-opted AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America, and they are trying to do the same to the Israeli-American Council and the Jewish National Fund. This is not the Zionism of David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres. This isn’t even the Zionism of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon.

[mrkelley23]

Please don’t lump all Israelis and Zionists with the Jewish nationalist settler crowd. Sadly the right wing has co-opted AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America, and they are trying to do the same to the Israeli-American Council and the Jewish National Fund. This is not the Zionism of David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres. This isn’t even the Zionism of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon.

It may or may not be relevant that there are zero synagogues in Thomas Massie's congressional district, yet 9 million dollars were contributed to his opponent's campaign by pro-Israel groups.

[flockofseagulls104]

I am not going to engage in the anti-Israel, anti-Jew bullshit that is so obviously a product of pro-Hamas and pro-palestinian propaganda efforts. Israel is, always has been and always will be our best and most trustworthy ally in this chaotic region. They do not and never have targeted civilians in defending themselves from the evil that surrounds them. However, civilians do end up getting hurt or killed because of the actions and strategies of those who want to kill all the jews from the river to the sea. Both 9-11 and 10-7 have been completely forgotten. But 10-7 was forgotten at lightening speed. It took NYC 25 years to completely forget 9-11

It is very sad to see so many heretofore semi reasonable people become practising nazis.

[Weyoun]

Please don’t lump all Israelis and Zionists with the Jewish nationalist settler crowd. Sadly the right wing has co-opted AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America, and they are trying to do the same to the Israeli-American Council and the Jewish National Fund. This is not the Zionism of David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres. This isn’t even the Zionism of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon.

I don't really disagree with that. It's also like how the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan.

[Weyoun]

I am not going to engage in the anti-Israel, anti-Jew bullshit that is so obviously a product of pro-Hamas and pro-palestinian propaganda efforts. Israel is, always has been and always will be our best and most trustworthy ally in this chaotic region. They do not and never have targeted civilians in defending themselves from the evil that surrounds them. However, civilians do end up getting hurt or killed because of the actions and strategies of those who want to kill all the jews from the river to the sea. Both 9-11 and 10-7 have been completely forgotten. But 10-7 was forgotten at lightening speed. It took NYC 25 years to completely forget 9-11

It is very sad to see so many heretofore semi reasonable people become practising nazis.

You live in an echo chamber. Take a look at the pictures of Gaza, or the pictures of the wounded Gazan children - if you are brave enough.

[flockofseagulls104]

Please don’t lump all Israelis and Zionists with the Jewish nationalist settler crowd. Sadly the right wing has co-opted AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America, and they are trying to do the same to the Israeli-American Council and the Jewish National Fund. This is not the Zionism of David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres. This isn’t even the Zionism of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon.

I don't really disagree with that. It's also like how the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan.

Let's not mention that the democrat party has become the party of Marx, Stalin and Mao.

[flockofseagulls104]

I am not going to engage in the anti-Israel, anti-Jew bullshit that is so obviously a product of pro-Hamas and pro-palestinian propaganda efforts. Israel is, always has been and always will be our best and most trustworthy ally in this chaotic region. They do not and never have targeted civilians in defending themselves from the evil that surrounds them. However, civilians do end up getting hurt or killed because of the actions and strategies of those who want to kill all the jews from the river to the sea. Both 9-11 and 10-7 have been completely forgotten. But 10-7 was forgotten at lightening speed. It took NYC 25 years to completely forget 9-11

It is very sad to see so many heretofore semi reasonable people become practising nazis.

You live in an echo chamber. Take a look at the pictures of Gaza, or the pictures of the wounded Gazan children - if you are brave enough.

Those photos of the famous emaciated child were faked. The NYT admitted it. So was so much else. You fall for it hook line and sinker.

The video of 10-7 was not faked. It was taken by the evil perpetrators themselves. We were not even shown the worst of it.

[Weyoun]

I am not going to engage in the anti-Israel, anti-Jew bullshit that is so obviously a product of pro-Hamas and pro-palestinian propaganda efforts. Israel is, always has been and always will be our best and most trustworthy ally in this chaotic region. They do not and never have targeted civilians in defending themselves from the evil that surrounds them. However, civilians do end up getting hurt or killed because of the actions and strategies of those who want to kill all the jews from the river to the sea. Both 9-11 and 10-7 have been completely forgotten. But 10-7 was forgotten at lightening speed. It took NYC 25 years to completely forget 9-11

It is very sad to see so many heretofore semi reasonable people become practising nazis.

You live in an echo chamber. Take a look at the pictures of Gaza, or the pictures of the wounded Gazan children - if you are brave enough.

Those photos of the famous emaciated child were faked. The NYT admitted it. So was so much else. You fall for it hook line and sinker.

The video of 10-7 was not faked. It was taken by the evil perpetrators themselves. We were not even shown the worst of it.

I don’t know what video you’re talking about, so I can’t really engage in your fantasies on that level.

But speaking of videos, we have the Israeli defense minister beating up people from the flotilla. He really fucked that one up! He did it to white people and he videotaped it!

But seriously, if you ever brave enough, please look into all the atrocities that the Israeli defense force has committed against Gaza. Based on what you said above, it sounds like you didn’t do that.

[earendel]

Please don’t lump all Israelis and Zionists with the Jewish nationalist settler crowd. Sadly the right wing has co-opted AIPAC and the Zionist Organization of America, and they are trying to do the same to the Israeli-American Council and the Jewish National Fund. This is not the Zionism of David Ben-Gurion and Shimon Peres. This isn’t even the Zionism of Menachem Begin and Ariel Sharon.

I don't really disagree with that. It's also like how the Republican Party is no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan.

As one Florida representative put it: "It's @realdonaldtrump's Republican Party. The rest of us get the privilege of living in it."

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[flockofseagulls104]

I don’t know what video you’re talking about, so I can’t really engage in your fantasies on that level.

You really sicken me. Are you DENYING Oct 7 ever happened?

Here's some videos, mostly recorded by the inhuman scum that planned and carried out these atrocities, who then hide among their own 'civilian' population and record and disseminate what happens when innocent people die because of their actions. And people like you eat it up just like the propaganda the German Nazis disseminated to dehumanize the Jews.

And keep in mind, these are only a few that have been released for publication. We cannot see the extremely graphic ones. As if these aren't graphic enough.

https://nypost.com/2026/05/13/world-new ... e-for-fun/

https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/07/17/i ... c171582314

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cABLvmajo

https://x.com/i/status/1793315408579121465

https://x.com/i/status/1740208353115291763

https://x.com/October_7_2023/status/1736422190998802452

https://x.com/i/status/1736421077658513545

https://x.com/i/status/1726775778782712076

https://x.com/i/status/1725921093431505285

https://x.com/i/status/1722312104764395562

This is all I'm going to say on the matter. If you want to argue some more, I will have no part in it.

[Weyoun]

I don’t know what video you’re talking about, so I can’t really engage in your fantasies on that level.

You really sicken me. Are you DENYING Oct 7 ever happened?

Here's some videos, mostly recorded by the inhuman scum that planned and carried out these atrocities, who then hide among their own 'civilian' population and record and disseminate what happens when innocent people die because of their actions. And people like you eat it up just like the propaganda the German Nazis disseminated to dehumanize the Jews.

And keep in mind, these are only a few that have been released for publication. We cannot see the extremely graphic ones. As if these aren't graphic enough.

https://nypost.com/2026/05/13/world-new ... e-for-fun/

https://www.hrw.org/report/2024/07/17/i ... c171582314

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cABLvmajo

https://x.com/i/status/1793315408579121465

https://x.com/i/status/1740208353115291763

https://x.com/October_7_2023/status/1736422190998802452

https://x.com/i/status/1736421077658513545

https://x.com/i/status/1726775778782712076

https://x.com/i/status/1725921093431505285

https://x.com/i/status/1722312104764395562

This is all I'm going to say on the matter. If you want to argue some more, I will have no part in it.

I have never said that (seriously - where did I say that?) I think October 7 was an unjustified massacre counter productive to peace and mutual coexistence.

But that doesn’t justifying killing 20,000 kids in retaliation.

It’s very easy to recognize that BOTH SIDES are awful, and you only defend Israel because you’re anti-Muslim/hac weird views about the end of the world.