Iran and possible bombing etc

[Beebs52]

What happened wirh the last bombing shit? Was it a
limp d!@# effort and not meaningful?

[Weyoun]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

[jarnon]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

I agree we’re not in danger now. A few years ago, Iran had effective control of Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, supported terrorists in Gaza and Yemen, threatening friendly nations and the world oil supply, were refining uranium, and provided weapons that killed civilians in Ukraine (they’re still doing the last one). Pretending they didn’t put us in danger is heedless “America first” isolationism.

[Weyoun]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

I agree we’re not in danger now. A few years ago, Iran had effective control of Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, supported terrorists in Gaza and Yemen, threatening friendly nations and the world oil supply, were refining uranium, and provided weapons that killed civilians in Ukraine (they’re still doing the last one). Pretending they didn’t put us in danger is heedless “America first” isolationism.

We had an effective agreement in place for Iran to drastically cut their nuclear program.

That was torn to shreds by Donald Trump during his first administration. He’s justifying a war based on something he caused - despite supposedly destroying their nuclear program last year.

Either way, while the issues above are noted, and caused instability in the Middle East, at no point could they be said to have really threatened a substantial number of American lives. And that’s all fallen apart, anyway.

To be clear, I think their regime is terrible, and murders their own citizens. Geopolitically they are aligned with Russia and China. I won’t weep for their demise. But let’s not pretend that this war is anything other than naked aggression.

[BackInTex]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

I agree we’re not in danger now. A few years ago, Iran had effective control of Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, supported terrorists in Gaza and Yemen, threatening friendly nations and the world oil supply, were refining uranium, and provided weapons that killed civilians in Ukraine (they’re still doing the last one). Pretending they didn’t put us in danger is heedless “America first” isolationism.

We had an effective agreement in place for Iran to drastically cut their nuclear program.

Your definition of "effective" must come from the brochures you recieved from Phizer, Moderna, and J&J in 2020.

[Beebs52]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

I agree we’re not in danger now. A few years ago, Iran had effective control of Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, supported terrorists in Gaza and Yemen, threatening friendly nations and the world oil supply, were refining uranium, and provided weapons that killed civilians in Ukraine (they’re still doing the last one). Pretending they didn’t put us in danger is heedless “America first” isolationism.

Picky picky picky.

[Beebs52]

I agree we’re not in danger now. A few years ago, Iran had effective control of Syria, Lebanon, and Iraq, supported terrorists in Gaza and Yemen, threatening friendly nations and the world oil supply, were refining uranium, and provided weapons that killed civilians in Ukraine (they’re still doing the last one). Pretending they didn’t put us in danger is heedless “America first” isolationism.

We had an effective agreement in place for Iran to drastically cut their nuclear program.

Your definition of "effective" must come from the brochures you recieved from Phizer, Moderna, and J&J in 2020.

Now that's funny I don't care...etcetcetc

[Beebs52]

It’s a needless war. We’re not in danger. We’ve never been in danger from them.

With this I must disagree.

[Beebs52]

What happened wirh the last bombing shit? Was it a
limp d!@# effort and not meaningful?

Twasn't a regime change focus. Now it is.

[Weyoun]

They've been our enemies for over four decades and the most notable incident between the two countries, prior to the bombing of their nuclear program last year, was the USS Vincennes incident.

They've certainly been a problem for post-Saddam Iraq, Syria, Israel, and Lebanon, but again no one on the North American continent has gone to bed at night worrying that Iran could attack them.

[Beebs52]

They've been our enemies for over four decades and the most notable incident between the two countries, prior to the bombing of their nuclear program last year, was the USS Vincennes incident.

They've certainly been a problem for post-Saddam Iraq, Syria, Israel, and Lebanon, but again no one on the North American continent has gone to bed at night worrying that Iran could attack them.

I guess if they had a nuke we might.

[Beebs52]

Also doc, didja forget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beir ... s_bombings

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

[Weyoun]

Also doc, didja forget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beir ... s_bombings

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

Kinda stupid to cite those, right? I mean the Iranians could cite the more recent Vincennes, or the less recent toppling of Mossaddegh. Either way, AS I SAID ALREADY, no one in this forum has ever gone to bed thinking that Iran could attack them. They are a non-threat and have been that way for years - or maybe ever.

[Beebs52]

Also doc, didja forget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beir ... s_bombings

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

Kinda stupid to cite those, right? I mean the Iranians could cite the more recent Vincennes, or the less recent toppling of Mossaddegh. Either way, AS I SAID ALREADY, no one in this forum has ever gone to bed thinking that Iran could attack them. They are a non-threat and have been that way for years - or maybe ever.

I don't know. Not sure they would appreciate mutually assured destruction if they had a nuclear weapon.

[Beebs52]

Also doc, didja forget
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beir ... s_bombings

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis

Kinda stupid to cite those, right? I mean the Iranians could cite the more recent Vincennes, or the less recent toppling of Mossaddegh. Either way, AS I SAID ALREADY, no one in this forum has ever gone to bed thinking that Iran could attack them. They are a non-threat and have been that way for years - or maybe ever.

I don't know. Not sure they would appreciate mutually assured destruction if they had a nuclear weapon.

Thx for the history lesson. Seriously. Vincennes was a horrible mistake. Mossaddegh was a convoluted Brit Amer Shah mishmash, which I would not be aware of had you not pointed it out.

With that said, you've presented nothing relevant to the current zeitgeist.

[flockofseagulls104]

Attacking another country without provocation is NOT acceptable. I am now on the record as opposing what we did in Venezuela. So there! That will mean just as much as my stance on just about everything Biden's handlers did.

That being said, I don't like that we went into Iran and dropped bombs there, either. But anyone who says they were not a threat to our country is either an ignorant fool or an enemy of the US, and probably both. They were the major sponsor of terror throughout the world and responsible for the death of thousands of innocent people in the past 40 years. They have been asking for this. Whether it will be contained to this is the question.

My opinion on the issue matters just as much as yours, which is nothing. But I can only hope and pray some good comes out of it. For those of you that keep score, let it be known that because of this, I will not be voting for Trump in '28. Happy?