Supreme Court to Trump

[Weyoun]

“Eat shit.”

[Beebs52]

Yep, I agree.

[flockofseagulls104]

https://x.com/i/status/2025255261536223359

Can't wait to post any TDS news, can you. Facts, schmacts. Who cares.

Tariffs will continue.

[Beebs52]

https://x.com/i/status/2025255261536223359

Can't wait to post any TDS news, can you. Facts, schmacts. Who cares.

Tariffs will continue.

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws? Maybe he thought if his original attempt was upheld it would open pathways for more presidential headway.
I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

[flockofseagulls104]

https://x.com/i/status/2025255261536223359

Can't wait to post any TDS news, can you. Facts, schmacts. Who cares.

Tariffs will continue.

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws? Maybe he thought if his original attempt was upheld it would open pathways for more presidential headway.
I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

And your alternative is what?

[Weyoun]

It doesn't seem like this alternative will pass muster. Indeed, even during the Court hearing, it was thrown out as a possibility, and the government attorney said it had to do with balance of payment deficits only, which don't apply here.

Of course, it will take time for this to be litigated, and businesses trying to keep up will suffer, and consumers will suffer. Pitiful job growth over the last year, too. Everything was overestimated by huge amounts. Navarro said this is because we got rid of illegals, but does that help "legals" if there are still no jobs being created?

[jarnon]

The courts have been consistent in rejecting presidential exercise of powers that the Constitution clearly gives to Congress: Obama’s expansion of DACA, Biden’s student loan forgiveness, DOGE gutting of agencies, etc. Yet most politicians and pundits frame everything in partisan terms.

[flockofseagulls104]

https://x.com/i/status/2025255261536223359

Can't wait to post any TDS news, can you. Facts, schmacts. Who cares.

Tariffs will continue.

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws? Maybe he thought if his original attempt was upheld it would open pathways for more presidential headway.
I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

And your alternative is what?

BTW, The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.

SO the alternative is views like the supposed doctor? Or the dems? You may not like some of what Trump does, but at least he keeps his promises and actually loves this country.

[Beebs52]

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws? Maybe he thought if his original attempt was upheld it would open pathways for more presidential headway.
I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

And your alternative is what?

BTW, The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.

SO the alternative is views like the supposed doctor? Or the dems? You may not like some of what Trump does, but at least he keeps his promises and actually loves this country.

Call me stupid. Don't have a clue about what you said.

[flockofseagulls104]

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws?

The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.[I guess he assumed that by any reasonable interpretation, that emergency law allowed him penalties up to and including cutting off all trade with another country. But these days TDS overrules reason for many people.]

I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

So what is the alternative? Who else are you going to support? What alternative views are there that make any reasonable sense or are even palatable?
The alternative is views like the supposed doctor (weyoun)? Or the dems?
I would hope the give-me-a-break meter doesn't reach that low for you. You may not like some of what Trump says or does, but at least he keeps his promises and actually loves this country.

Does that help?

[Beebs52]

Question: why didn't he originally attempt tariffs under the supposed doable laws?

The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.[I guess he assumed that by any reasonable interpretation, that emergency law allowed him penalties up to and including cutting off all trade with another country. But these days TDS overrules reason for many people.]

I voted for Trump, but my give-me-a-break meter is wavering.

So what is the alternative? Who else are you going to support? What alternative views are there that make any reasonable sense or are even palatable?
The alternative is views like the supposed doctor (weyoun)? Or the dems?
I would hope the give-me-a-break meter doesn't reach that low for you. You may not like some of what Trump says or does, but at least he keeps his promises and actually loves this country.

Does that help?

Flock, I get that I THINK he loves our country more than himself. I do question the stability of some of his decisions lately. That does not make me a crazy leftwing radical idiot. If one blanketly approves all his actions then one is faulty in logical or prudent thinking.

[jarnon]

BTW, The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.

Because a tariff is (no matter how much Trump denies it) a tax on American citizens.

[Beebs52]

BTW, The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.


"What IEEPA Can Do: IEEPA still permits the President to block financial transactions, freeze assets, and place sanctions on foreign entities or governments in response to an unusual and extraordinary threat"

Unusual and extraordinary threat...

[flockofseagulls104]

BTW, The law that he used allows him to completely cutoff trade with a country. But it won't allow him, (according to the 6 votes on the SC) to impose a lesser measure of tariffs.

Because a tariff is (no matter how much Trump denies it) a tax on American citizens.

As I understand it, it's a tax on foreign goods that is imposed on those goods in order to sell them in the USA. In order to compete with US made goods, they need to lower their prices to account for those tariffs, otherwise they lose the USA market. Very few are willing to lose our market for their goods, so they adjust their prices.

Whether you agree with that explanation or not, overall it is working as Trump envisioned. It is increasing revenue without causing inflation.

[flockofseagulls104]

"What IEEPA Can Do: IEEPA still permits the President to block financial transactions, freeze assets, and place sanctions on foreign entities or governments in response to an unusual and extraordinary threat"

Unusual and extraordinary threat...

You don't view it as an 'extraordinary threat'? Is that a 'give-me-a-break' statement?

How many times has he stated and demonstrated how badly some other countries rip us off? Does he do like everyone else before him and just ignore it, let it continue or profit from it? Or does he view it as an extraordinary threat and do something about it?