Should we round up "the enemy within"?

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Should we round up "the enemy within"?

#1 Post by Weyoun » Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:37 pm

Seems problematic to do and against democratic values. In retrospect, things like the Red Scare only weakened us and did not stop the USSR. So I vote NO to the idea of using the US military to round up "the enemy within."
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#2 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Nov 02, 2024 6:13 pm

I think we should crack down on pinworms in the gut.
Well, then

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#3 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:00 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:37 pm
Seems problematic to do and against democratic values. In retrospect, things like the Red Scare only weakened us and did not stop the USSR. So I vote NO to the idea of using the US military to round up "the enemy within."
No one is suggesting or ever has suggested that the military be involved. I don't know, and I don't want to know where you get notions like these.

I think it's long overdue for the people that have been breaking, ignoring and making up laws that don't exist be held accountable for their actions. Using a justice system that is truly fair, equitable and blind, once it is reformed. Liz Cheney is one of many. She needs to be held accountable, not shot.
Off the top of my head:

Cheney for her role in hiding and destroying any and all exculpatory evidence in the J6 starchamber.
Merrick Garland for the use of lawfare against political enemies.
People like Lois Lerner, who have used their positions to advance political agendas.
Judges like Merchan, who ignore law for their own political benefit, to avoid making hard but correct decisions, and for monetary gain.
The list goes on for miles.
It will not be possible to prosecute them all, but if just a handful of them could be convicted and given meaningful sentences, it may send a message to others who, up to now, have seen no downside in abusing their power for political gain.

I think that is probably too reasonable for you. You won't understand it.
But please note that in the post above I did not advocate anyone to be shot, or any children, Gazan or not, to be harmed in any way, and did not make any mention of brown people. I rest assured you'll find something else to accuse me of, however.
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Re: Shouls we round up "the enemy within"?

#4 Post by Weyoun » Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:00 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:37 pm
Seems problematic to do and against democratic values. In retrospect, things like the Red Scare only weakened us and did not stop the USSR. So I vote NO to the idea of using the US military to round up "the enemy within."
No one is suggesting or ever has suggested that the military be involved. I don't know, and I don't want to know where you get notions like these.

I think it's long overdue for the people that have been breaking, ignoring and making up laws that don't exist be held accountable for their actions. Using a justice system that is truly fair, equitable and blind, once it is reformed. Liz Cheney is one of many. She needs to be held accountable, not shot.
Off the top of my head:

Cheney for her role in hiding and destroying any and all exculpatory evidence in the J6 starchamber.
Merrick Garland for the use of lawfare against political enemies.
People like Lois Lerner, who have used their positions to advance political agendas.
Judges like Merchan, who ignore law for their own political benefit, to avoid making hard but correct decisions, and for monetary gain.
The list goes on for miles.
It will not be possible to prosecute them all, but if just a handful of them could be convicted and given meaningful sentences, it may send a message to others who, up to now, have seen no downside in abusing their power for political gain.

I think that is probably too reasonable for you. You won't understand it.
But please note that in the post above I did not advocate anyone to be shot, or any children, Gazan or not, to be harmed in any way, and did not make any mention of brown people. I rest assured you'll find something else to accuse me of, however.
So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.

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Re: Shouls we round up "the enemy within"?

#5 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:00 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 5:37 pm
Seems problematic to do and against democratic values. In retrospect, things like the Red Scare only weakened us and did not stop the USSR. So I vote NO to the idea of using the US military to round up "the enemy within."
No one is suggesting or ever has suggested that the military be involved. I don't know, and I don't want to know where you get notions like these.

I think it's long overdue for the people that have been breaking, ignoring and making up laws that don't exist be held accountable for their actions. Using a justice system that is truly fair, equitable and blind, once it is reformed. Liz Cheney is one of many. She needs to be held accountable, not shot.
Off the top of my head:

Cheney for her role in hiding and destroying any and all exculpatory evidence in the J6 starchamber.
Merrick Garland for the use of lawfare against political enemies.
People like Lois Lerner, who have used their positions to advance political agendas.
Judges like Merchan, who ignore law for their own political benefit, to avoid making hard but correct decisions, and for monetary gain.
The list goes on for miles.
It will not be possible to prosecute them all, but if just a handful of them could be convicted and given meaningful sentences, it may send a message to others who, up to now, have seen no downside in abusing their power for political gain.

I think that is probably too reasonable for you. You won't understand it.
But please note that in the post above I did not advocate anyone to be shot, or any children, Gazan or not, to be harmed in any way, and did not make any mention of brown people. I rest assured you'll find something else to accuse me of, however.
So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.
Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo

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Re: Should we round up "the enemy within"?

#6 Post by Weyoun » Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 8:00 pm

No one is suggesting or ever has suggested that the military be involved. I don't know, and I don't want to know where you get notions like these.

I think it's long overdue for the people that have been breaking, ignoring and making up laws that don't exist be held accountable for their actions. Using a justice system that is truly fair, equitable and blind, once it is reformed. Liz Cheney is one of many. She needs to be held accountable, not shot.
Off the top of my head:

Cheney for her role in hiding and destroying any and all exculpatory evidence in the J6 starchamber.
Merrick Garland for the use of lawfare against political enemies.
People like Lois Lerner, who have used their positions to advance political agendas.
Judges like Merchan, who ignore law for their own political benefit, to avoid making hard but correct decisions, and for monetary gain.
The list goes on for miles.
It will not be possible to prosecute them all, but if just a handful of them could be convicted and given meaningful sentences, it may send a message to others who, up to now, have seen no downside in abusing their power for political gain.

I think that is probably too reasonable for you. You won't understand it.
But please note that in the post above I did not advocate anyone to be shot, or any children, Gazan or not, to be harmed in any way, and did not make any mention of brown people. I rest assured you'll find something else to accuse me of, however.
So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.
Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.

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#7 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:00 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am


So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.
Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
Of course you don't. That is just one of your many problems.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo

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Re: Should we round up "the enemy within"?

#8 Post by tlynn78 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:09 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am


So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.
Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
I must have missed the video of Trump "breaking into the Capitol.."

But iI get it; the fact he's still breathing is enough to trigger your outrage.
But you do get big boy points for recognizing that giving people grief isn't a crime.
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#9 Post by Weyoun » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:13 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:09 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am

Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
I must have missed the video of Trump "breaking into the Capitol.."

But iI get it; the fact he's still breathing is enough to trigger your outrage.
But you do get big boy points for recognizing that giving people grief isn't a crime.
Who said I was talking about Trump doing that? So many of your comments are pointless, stupid non sequiturs.

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#10 Post by Weyoun » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:14 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:00 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am

Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
Of course you don't. That is just one of your many problems.
A stranger stumbling onto this thread would assume you are a totalitarian bootlick based on your comments here - arresting someone because they annoy Trump? Oh my.

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#11 Post by tlynn78 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:36 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:13 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:09 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am


I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
I must have missed the video of Trump "breaking into the Capitol.."

But iI get it; the fact he's still breathing is enough to trigger your outrage.
But you do get big boy points for recognizing that giving people grief isn't a crime.
Who said I was talking about Trump doing that? So many of your comments are pointless, stupid non sequiturs.

Coming from you? Freaking hilarious!!
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#12 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:21 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:14 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:00 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am


I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
Of course you don't. That is just one of your many problems.
A stranger stumbling onto this thread would assume you are a totalitarian bootlick based on your comments here - arresting someone because they annoy Trump? Oh my.
But at least I didn't advocate shooting any Gazan transgender children of color. (well, I don't think I did. I guess that's up to you). You have to give me that.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo

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#13 Post by Weyoun » Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:20 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:21 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:14 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:00 pm


Of course you don't. That is just one of your many problems.
A stranger stumbling onto this thread would assume you are a totalitarian bootlick based on your comments here - arresting someone because they annoy Trump? Oh my.
But at least I didn't advocate shooting any Gazan transgender children of color. (well, I don't think I did. I guess that's up to you). You have to give me that.
No doubt if one of those theoretical people died, you would justify it somehow.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nsylvania/

This happened not too far from where I live. Harris may not be a great leader but no one objectively would call her criminal - yet that happened.

So when you defend rounding up Trump’s enemies, I am interpreting it to mean that. Where does it stop? Should those who voted for Harris be arrested?

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#14 Post by tlynn78 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:29 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:20 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:21 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:14 pm


A stranger stumbling onto this thread would assume you are a totalitarian bootlick based on your comments here - arresting someone because they annoy Trump? Oh my.
But at least I didn't advocate shooting any Gazan transgender children of color. (well, I don't think I did. I guess that's up to you). You have to give me that.
No doubt if one of those theoretical people died, you would justify it somehow.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... nsylvania/

This happened not too far from where I live. Harris may not be a great leader but no one objectively would call her criminal - yet that happened.

So when you defend rounding up Trump’s enemies, I am interpreting it to mean that. Where does it stop? Should those who voted for Harris be arrested?
Nah. Just pitied.
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#15 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:28 pm

No doubt if one of those theoretical people died, you would justify it somehow.
In a facist pig's eye.
Your friendly neighborhood racist. On the waiting list to be a nazi. Designated an honorary 'snowflake'. Trolled by the very best, as well as by BJ. Always typical, unlike others.., Fulminator, Hopelessly in the tank for trump... inappropriate... Flocking himself... Probably a tucking sexist, too... A clear and present threat to The Future Of Our Democracy.. Doesn't understand anything... Made the trump apologist and enabler playoffs... Heathen bastard... Knows nothing about history... Liar.... don't know much about statistics and polling... Nothing at all about biology... Ignorant Bigot... Potential Future Pariah... Big Nerd... Spiraling, Anti-Trans Bigot.. A Lunatic AND a Bigot.. Very Ignorant of the World in General... Sounds deranged... Fake Christian... Weird... has the mind of a child... Simpleton... gullible idiot... a coward who can't face facts... insufferable and obnoxious dumbass... the usual dum dum... idolatrous donkey-person!... Mouth-breathing moron... Dildo

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#16 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 9:58 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:46 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:28 am
Weyoun wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 7:54 am
So, in other words, we should use the police power to round up the political enemies of Donald Trump. Gotcha. I don’t have to call you racist when I can just call you a fascist pig.
Why not? We have real crimes as opposed to the made up ones your people are already using against their political enemies. You are the facist pig.
I’m having a hard time to figure out what above is actually a crime. Giving Trump grief is not a crime.

OTOH breaking into the Capitol to stop a lawful proceeding and trashing the place is objectively a criminal act.
There's a reason the Speech and Debate Clause (Article I, Section 6, Clause 1) was included in the Constitution. Liz Cheney cannot constitutionally be prosecuted (or held civilly liable) for any of her activities as a member of the January 6 Committee. Not that a little thing like the Constitution is likely to stop Donny if he gets another chance at power, but still. --Bob
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