Initial Report - He will be OK

[wbtravis007]

The daughter of the man who died yesterday shielding his family from gunfire has made a statement:

Yesterday time stopped. And when it started again my family and I started living a real-life nightmare.

What was supposed to be an exciting day that we had all looked forward to (ESPECIALLY my dad), turned into the most traumatizing experiences someone could imagine.

I know the media will cover this event. And I'm going to try my best to stay away from looking at everything, especially because I've already seen and lived through it in real time. But I want everyone to know what the media will not cover, and will not say about him.

He was the best dad a girl could ever ask for. My sister and I never needed for anything. You call, he would answer, and he would do whatever it is you needed, and if he didn't know how he would figure out how. He could talk and make friends with anyone, which he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it. He was a man of God, loved Jesus fiercely, and also looked after our church and our members as family.

The media will not tell you that he died a real-life super hero. They are not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mom and I to the ground. They are not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us.

He loved his family. He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us. And I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him thank you. I want nothing more than to wake up and for this to not be reality for me and my family.

We lost a selfless, loving, husband, father, brother, uncle, son, and friend. And I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that I die too. July 13th will forever be a day the changed my life. I will never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago.

There are a lot of children out there that say their dad is their hero, but my dad really is mine. I don't think I would be here today without him.

Dad, I love you so much that there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes. I know you'll give heaven some hell. I know that God is proud of the man that came to His gates yesterday

I'm glad she was mistaken about the media publicizing her father's heroism. My thoughts go out to this family for their tragic loss. --Bob

Reading this breaks my heart, too.

I hate to say this, but I honestly believe that if Trump were to be given a magic wand right now and told that he could wave it and yesterday would have occurred without the crazy kid, he’d pass.

I know. It’s terrible to think that. But I do. And I think that he wouldn’t be the only one. Don Jr., for example.

With the “photo for the ages” (flock’s post) and all of the stuff that went with what he would consider to be a great TV moment — his specialty— and given that he knows that so many of his supporters (whom he considers to be suckers) will consider this to be evidence that he’s the second coming, or at least that it involved an intervention by God, and the adulation that he’s going to enjoy at the Convention and after it as something like a quasi- martyr … well, I could go on.

Whether he’ll be able to convey that he’s sad or sorrowful or subdued by this event will be interesting to see.

I think he’ll just be totally juiced about it.

[flockofseagulls104]

Total fuck up by the USSS. More video evidence that this guy could have easily and should have been easily stopped. Or maybe it's a cheap fake.

[wbtravis007]

I know I don't know what I don't know, so I will reserve any comments. For now.

Anyone who has observed your posts here for over 20 years knows that you don’t realize that you are are an insufferable and obnoxious dumbass, and that you don’t know that you don’t

You are absolutely hilariously lacking self-awareness.

So … you’re saying that you think I’m funny?

Cool.

Thanks.

[BackInTex]

Total fuck up by the USSS. More video evidence that this guy could have easily and should have been easily stopped. Or maybe it's a cheap fake.

But, but, but, the roof was slanted and it might be too dangerous to post a counter-sniper up there!

Yeah, right. Most theaters floors have more pitch.

This is the building the sniper was on top of.

[flockofseagulls104]

There are SOOOO MANY questions. So many things that cannot be explained.

This cannot be swept under the rug like so many other incidents. We've got hundreds of videos of this assassination attempt from many different angles. We've got hundreds of eyewitness testimonies. Every one of them has to be addressed and explained with the TRUTH.

Any investigation that is solely by the DOJ and/or FBI is not credible. They cannot find who's cocaine was left in the White House, who leaked the Dobbs decision and are involved in the lawfare against conservatives among many other things. More than half the country does not trust them anymore. This is ripe for multiple conspiracy theories like the JFK assassination. That cannot happen here. We need a FULLY INDEPENDENT and fully NONBIASED investigation and report on this. NOW!

[wbtravis007]

I am re-posting this to pose the question specifically to the Trump supporters here: Do you agree with my assessment that Trump would pass on waving the magic wand under these circumstances? And, if so, do you find that to be disturbing in any way?

I'm genuinely curious. Not looking to try to advance an argument or make any judgment about this. I won't even respond in any way to any straight-forward answers. And, for that matter, I won't be responding to any evasive answer along the line of "well, this is a hypothetical situation that would never happen, blah blah blah" either.

Again, just curious.

The daughter of the man who died yesterday shielding his family from gunfire has made a statement:

Yesterday time stopped. And when it started again my family and I started living a real-life nightmare.

What was supposed to be an exciting day that we had all looked forward to (ESPECIALLY my dad), turned into the most traumatizing experiences someone could imagine.

I know the media will cover this event. And I'm going to try my best to stay away from looking at everything, especially because I've already seen and lived through it in real time. But I want everyone to know what the media will not cover, and will not say about him.

He was the best dad a girl could ever ask for. My sister and I never needed for anything. You call, he would answer, and he would do whatever it is you needed, and if he didn't know how he would figure out how. He could talk and make friends with anyone, which he was doing all day yesterday and loved every minute of it. He was a man of God, loved Jesus fiercely, and also looked after our church and our members as family.

The media will not tell you that he died a real-life super hero. They are not going to tell you how quickly he threw my mom and I to the ground. They are not going to tell you that he shielded my body from the bullet that came at us.

He loved his family. He truly loved us enough to take a real bullet for us. And I want nothing more than to cry on him and tell him thank you. I want nothing more than to wake up and for this to not be reality for me and my family.

We lost a selfless, loving, husband, father, brother, uncle, son, and friend. And I will never stop thinking about him and mourning over him until the day that I die too. July 13th will forever be a day the changed my life. I will never be the same person I was less than 24 hours ago.

There are a lot of children out there that say their dad is their hero, but my dad really is mine. I don't think I would be here today without him.

Dad, I love you so much that there aren't enough words to express how deep that love goes. I know you'll give heaven some hell. I know that God is proud of the man that came to His gates yesterday

I'm glad she was mistaken about the media publicizing her father's heroism. My thoughts go out to this family for their tragic loss. --Bob

Reading this breaks my heart, too.

I hate to say this, but I honestly believe that if Trump were to be given a magic wand right now and told that he could wave it and yesterday would have occurred without the crazy kid, he’d pass.

I know. It’s terrible to think that. But I do. And I think that he wouldn’t be the only one. Don Jr., for example.

With the “photo for the ages” (flock’s post) and all of the stuff that went with what he would consider to be a great TV moment — his specialty— and given that he knows that so many of his supporters (whom he considers to be suckers) will consider this to be evidence that he’s the second coming, or at least that it involved an intervention by God, and the adulation that he’s going to enjoy at the Convention and after it as something like a quasi- martyr … well, I could go on.

Whether he’ll be able to convey that he’s saddened or sorrowful or subdued by this event will be interesting to see.

I think he’ll just be totally juiced about it.

[BackInTex]

I am re-posting this to pose the question specifically to the Trump supporters here: Do you agree with my assessment that Trump would pass on waving the magic wand under these circumstances? And, if so, do you find that to be disturbing in any way?

I'm genuinely curious. Not looking to try to advance an argument or make any judgment about this. I won't even respond in any way to any straight-forward answers. And, for that matter, I won't be responding to any evasive answer along the line of "well, this is a hypothetical situation that would never happen, blah blah blah" either.

Again, just curious.

The daughter of the man who died yesterday shielding his family from gunfire has made a statement:

I'm glad she was mistaken about the media publicizing her father's heroism. My thoughts go out to this family for their tragic loss. --Bob

Reading this breaks my heart, too.

I hate to say this, but I honestly believe that if Trump were to be given a magic wand right now and told that he could wave it and yesterday would have occurred without the crazy kid, he’d pass.

I know. It’s terrible to think that. But I do. And I think that he wouldn’t be the only one. Don Jr., for example.

With the “photo for the ages” (flock’s post) and all of the stuff that went with what he would consider to be a great TV moment — his specialty— and given that he knows that so many of his supporters (whom he considers to be suckers) will consider this to be evidence that he’s the second coming, or at least that it involved an intervention by God, and the adulation that he’s going to enjoy at the Convention and after it as something like a quasi- martyr … well, I could go on.

Whether he’ll be able to convey that he’s saddened or sorrowful or subdued by this event will be interesting to see.

I think he’ll just be totally juiced about it.

No, I don't agree with your assessment. Given the option, he would undo what was done to bring back the lost innocents.

[wbtravis007]

I am re-posting this to pose the question specifically to the Trump supporters here: Do you agree with my assessment that Trump would pass on waving the magic wand under these circumstances? And, if so, do you find that to be disturbing in any way?

I'm genuinely curious. Not looking to try to advance an argument or make any judgment about this. I won't even respond in any way to any straight-forward answers. And, for that matter, I won't be responding to any evasive answer along the line of "well, this is a hypothetical situation that would never happen, blah blah blah" either.

Again, just curious.

Reading this breaks my heart, too.

I hate to say this, but I honestly believe that if Trump were to be given a magic wand right now and told that he could wave it and yesterday would have occurred without the crazy kid, he’d pass.

I know. It’s terrible to think that. But I do. And I think that he wouldn’t be the only one. Don Jr., for example.

With the “photo for the ages” (flock’s post) and all of the stuff that went with what he would consider to be a great TV moment — his specialty— and given that he knows that so many of his supporters (whom he considers to be suckers) will consider this to be evidence that he’s the second coming, or at least that it involved an intervention by God, and the adulation that he’s going to enjoy at the Convention and after it as something like a quasi- martyr … well, I could go on.

Whether he’ll be able to convey that he’s saddened or sorrowful or subdued by this event will be interesting to see.

I think he’ll just be totally juiced about it.

No, I don't agree with your assessment. Given the option, he would undo what was done to bring back the lost innocents.

Fair enough. Thanks for answering. You might be right.

[flockofseagulls104]

I don't have to speculate. There are MANY TDS sufferers out there, including many elected officials, that have literally stated that if they could wave a magic wand that would have made the bullet hit the target, they would wave it.

[silverscreenselect]

Any investigation that is solely by the DOJ and/or FBI is not credible.

And who would you suggest conduct this investigation? James Comer? Steve Bannon? Mike Johnson?

[tlynn78]

I am re-posting this to pose the question specifically to the Trump supporters here: Do you agree with my assessment that Trump would pass on waving the magic wand under these circumstances? And, if so, do you find that to be disturbing in any way?

I'm genuinely curious. Not looking to try to advance an argument or make any judgment about this. I won't even respond in any way to any straight-forward answers. And, for that matter, I won't be responding to any evasive answer along the line of "well, this is a hypothetical situation that would never happen, blah blah blah" either.

Again, just curious.

Reading this breaks my heart, too.

I hate to say this, but I honestly believe that if Trump were to be given a magic wand right now and told that he could wave it and yesterday would have occurred without the crazy kid, he’d pass.

I know. It’s terrible to think that. But I do. And I think that he wouldn’t be the only one. Don Jr., for example.

With the “photo for the ages” (flock’s post) and all of the stuff that went with what he would consider to be a great TV moment — his specialty— and given that he knows that so many of his supporters (whom he considers to be suckers) will consider this to be evidence that he’s the second coming, or at least that it involved an intervention by God, and the adulation that he’s going to enjoy at the Convention and after it as something like a quasi- martyr … well, I could go on.

Whether he’ll be able to convey that he’s saddened or sorrowful or subdued by this event will be interesting to see.

I think he’ll just be totally juiced about it.

No, I don't agree with your assessment. Given the option, he would undo what was done to bring back the lost innocents.

He absolutely would 'undo' it.

[Beebs52]

Wb, I think you're incorrect. I won't insert any adjectival qualifications out of courtesy for those who were killed and injured.

[wbtravis007]

I appreciate your responses, ladies.

As for flock’s typical non sequitur, I’ll just bite my tongue.

[jarnon]

I don't have to speculate. There are MANY TDS sufferers out there, including many elected officials, that have literally stated that if they could wave a magic wand that would have made the bullet hit the target, they would wave it.

One of them is a local (now former) fire chief.

Prospect Park fire chief resigns after sharing “unprofessional post” following Trump assassination attempt

“I’m especially ashamed that I made light of an event that killed a fellow former volunteer Pennsylvania fire chief.”

[Spock]

The FBI has identified the shooter as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania. According to voter records, someone with the same name at the same address was a registered Republican.

So much for the Republican officeholders trying to blame the shooting on Democratic rhetoric or people on this Bored trying to blame "antifa" (whatever that may mean). --Bob

Right, because leftist activists weren't out there getting leftist to "registere Republican" in order to vote in the primaries.

C'mon TGirl. You know Bob can't even consider that well-publicized phenomenon because that would require him to think deeper than the surface conventional narrative.

[Spock]

Through the whole week on the road after I heard about the shooting my mind kept coming back to one of my favorite passages in the bible.

Psalm 34 V 19 and 20.

>>>"A righteous man may have many troubles,
but the Lord delivers him from them all

He protects all his bones,
not one of them will be broken."<<<<,

[silverscreenselect]

The FBI has identified the shooter as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania. According to voter records, someone with the same name at the same address was a registered Republican.

So much for the Republican officeholders trying to blame the shooting on Democratic rhetoric or people on this Bored trying to blame "antifa" (whatever that may mean). --Bob

Right, because leftist activists weren't out there getting leftist to "registere Republican" in order to vote in the primaries.

C'mon TGirl. You know Bob can't even consider that well-publicized phenomenon because that would require him to think deeper than the surface conventional narrative.

There is also some evidence that [Crooks] may have held conservative beliefs. One high school classmate remembers him standing alone to argue for conservative views in a social studies class. Another classmate said she believed he and his friends wore Trump shirts when Trump was running for office. In total, four people said they believed he had conservative beliefs, while none said they believed he was liberal or espoused some other ideology. Two people said they had never heard him talk about politics. One classmate said Crooks told him that he hated all the presidential candidates in 2016.

https://www.wesa.fm/courts-justice/2024 ... nservative

[flockofseagulls104]

We will never get the truth about this. Just like the Las Vegas shooting. Just back and forth contradicting conspiracy theories in the media and nothing we can believe from the FBI and DOJ. This is the world we live in.

[earendel]

Through the whole week on the road after I heard about the shooting my mind kept coming back to one of my favorite passages in the bible.

Psalm 34 V 19 and 20.

>>>"A righteous man may have many troubles,
but the Lord delivers him from them all

He protects all his bones,
not one of them will be broken."<<<<,

Oh, please! Do you honestly think that the firefighter who was killed was not a righteous man? That's what disturbs me about all those who quote various Bible passages to explain why Trump wasn't killed. They have no regard for the person who WAS killed.

[flockofseagulls104]

More video of the shooter. No reason to doubt it's real.
Why don't we have daily updates on what they know? What the fuck is going on?
How can this NOT have been an inside job?

[jarnon]

Why don’t we have daily updates on what they know? What the fuck is going on?

News media do give frequent updates on the investigation in progress.

Pa. officer’s shot played key role in halting attack on Trump, officials say

This is news to me. At the convention Trump praised the sniper who took out the shooter; now we know a local SWAT officer shot at him too.

Yesterday senators from both parties raked leaders of the FBI and Secret Service over coals on their abysmal failure, and they announced steps they’re taking to avoid a recurrence (sensibly, many of the steps were only revealed in a closed hearing).

Takeaways from Trump shooting hearing

>>> During a Pennsylvania visit, Rowe was able to see for himself the line of sight Crooks had on Trump by visiting the rally sight and lying in a prone position on the roof of the attack. <<<

He doesn’t have his predecessor’s aversion to sloped roofs.

[flockofseagulls104]

News media do give frequent updates on the investigation in progress.

Really? I'm so relieved.