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Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

Check out this other Hagel line:

"'I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, "I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,"' he said.

'That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.'" Hagel added, "I think it's a very big stretch to say that Palin has the experience to be president of the United States."

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually critical election year. The idea of “leadership” must be broadened from mere “experience” to include knowledge, learnedness and insight.

Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs. McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester - dropped out
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism with a D+ average

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

AnnieCamaro wrote:Really, you ought to give credit or provide a link to whichever blog, mass e-mail, or news source you are copying from. To post it under your own name without attribution is remarkably akin to plagiarism.

If I could vote, I would just try to sniff the rear ends of all the candidates. That would tell me all I needed to know.

/:P\

Bob Juch wrote:

AnnieCamaro wrote:Really, you ought to give credit or provide a link to whichever blog, mass e-mail, or news source you are copying from. To post it under your own name without attribution is remarkably akin to plagiarism.

If I could vote, I would just try to sniff the rear ends of all the candidates. That would tell me all I needed to know.

/:P\

You must have missed this: from NBC's Mark Murray

AnnieCamaro wrote: If I could vote, I would just try to sniff the rear ends of all the candidates. That would tell me all I needed to know.

/:P\

mrkelley23 wrote: OTOH, the quotes from the Omaha World-Herald appear to be true, which signals to me that Sen. Hagel has either reached that point of comfort that he can say anything he wants without fear of retribution, or he is far enough gone and burned out that he doesn't care about retribution. On the other other hand, however, the secondary news source I was reading to try to confirm these quotes referred to sen. Obama's running mate as "Sen. John Biden (sic), so maybe I should just take all this with a grain of salt.

Bob Juch wrote: The idea of “leadership” must be broadened from mere “experience” to include knowledge, learnedness and insight.

Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

Bob Juch wrote:
Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs. McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester - dropped out
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism with a D+ average

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

Check out this other Hagel line:

"'I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, "I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,"' he said.

'That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.'" Hagel added, "I think it's a very big stretch to say that Palin has the experience to be president of the United States."

You are The Boss... which team would you hire?

With America facing historic debt, multiple war fronts, stumbling health care, a weakened dollar, all-time high prison population, skyrocketing Federal spending, mortgage crises, bank foreclosures, etc. etc., this is an unusually critical election year. The idea of “leadership” must be broadened from mere “experience” to include knowledge, learnedness and insight.

Let's look at the educational background of your two options:

Obama:
Occidental College - Two years.
Columbia University - B.A. political science with a specialization in international relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude

& Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in history and B.A. in political science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

vs. McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank 894 of 899

& Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester - dropped out
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in journalism with a D+ average

Now, which team are you going to hire ?

Flybrick wrote:So how well have the uber-educated lawyers of both parties been working out for us so far?

To answer your question, I'm voting Republican.

Also, you and those without a clue, seem to glom onto the McCain's class standing at Annapolis.

What do you call a graduate of Annapolis whether it's the top grad or the bottom (called the 'anchor,' by the way)? Either ensign or lieutenant if he/she goes into the Marines. Each comes out with a bachelor's degree that is highly prized by civilian employers. Not to mention a much greater, usually, appreciation of teamwork, selflessness, and putting the job/mission first.

You also don't mention about the roughly 40% attritition rate from each of the service academies (it varies from year to year, but has always been above 25 % and is usually much more). Some leave voluntarily and go about their way. Some are kicked out but have a military obligation to fulfill for their however many years of free education they received. Some consequences there, it would seem.

Let's see you do better. Oh wait, carping from the sidelines is your strong suit. Manning up either to serve your country, run for office - any office - or doing something outside your comfort zone. Any of that on your resume? If so, I'd love to hear of it. If not, then how do you look at your self in the mirror with so much hypocrisy dripping?

Bring on policy debates. Describe what/how Obama is better at solving the numerous problems faced by our country. Enough with the holier-than-thou. Neither your candidates nor you can stand the comparisons.

Otherwise, you're just a tool, in so many ways.

BackInTex wrote:You don't get it, do you. This is Obama vs. McCain. You and the DNC can try to make it Obama vs. McCain, stick your head in the sand, and all that. It won't matter. Your team has pick a real loser. You can't see that. I don't blame you. You have been decieved by his 'style'. But it seems substinance is not that important to the DNC anyway. Gender, race, promises, hope. That seems to be the DNC platform.

Abraham Lincoln Education:
Formal Education: About 1 year total
Degrees: Honorary degrees from Knox College (1860), Columbia (1861), Princeton (1864)

Richard Nixon:
Attended public school
Entered Whittier College at age 17
Graduated second in his class in 1934 and received a scholarship to Duke University Law School
Graduated third in his class from Duke in 1937

Which team would you hire?

Third, the elitist, by his very nature, proves overreaching. That is, he seems in anti-Platonic fashion, to think his expertise in one field is instantly transferable to another. The good tractor mechanic may, with dirty nails and the odor of diesel, instinctively sense that he has shorted rhetoric and diction, and so has to prepare and tread carefully when dealing with the probate lawyer, county assessor, or local professor at night school.

Again, in contrast, the elitist seems to think that his Harvard Law Degree or Stanford PhD, or Victorian on Pacific Heights instantly makes him a far better guide to human nature, diplomacy, warmaking, and governance—almost anything—than does the sheet-rocker or crane operator (cf. the Obama sermon on clinging Pennsylvanians). That is, the elitist does not understand that his admirable hours spent investigating French provincial furniture or understanding the pedigree of good silverware may be of no more utility in cultivating logic, good judgment, and moral character than in mastering checkers.

William F. Buckley, who knew something of the Ivy League, was not being (just) flippant when he quipped
“I’d rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.”

Sir_Galahad wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

This is laughable. And how much foreign policy did Clinton have before he took office? We all saw the great job he did. And, what about Jimmy Carter. There's another bozo for you. And how many other presidents had little to no foreign policy experience before taking office?

But, wait a minute! Sarah Palin is not running for president, is she?

nitrah55 wrote:

Sir_Galahad wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

This is laughable. And how much foreign policy did Clinton have before he took office? We all saw the great job he did. And, what about Jimmy Carter. There's another bozo for you. And how many other presidents had little to no foreign policy experience before taking office?

But, wait a minute! Sarah Palin is not running for president, is she?

The main job the VP has is stepping in if the President can't do the job.

As far as I'm concerned, she's running for President.

peacock2121 wrote:

nitrah55 wrote:

Sir_Galahad wrote: This is laughable. And how much foreign policy did Clinton have before he took office? We all saw the great job he did. And, what about Jimmy Carter. There's another bozo for you. And how many other presidents had little to no foreign policy experience before taking office?

But, wait a minute! Sarah Palin is not running for president, is she?

The main job the VP has is stepping in if the President can't do the job.

As far as I'm concerned, she's running for President.

What nitrah said.

nitrah55 wrote:
The main job the VP has is stepping in if the President can't do the job.

As far as I'm concerned, she's running for President.

silvercamaro wrote:

nitrah55 wrote:
The main job the VP has is stepping in if the President can't do the job.

As far as I'm concerned, she's running for President.

This strikes me as a reasonable basis on which to assess a candidate. On that basis, I could never support Joe Biden, the Yogi Berra of politics.

Here's Fanny! wrote:Doesn't George W. Bush have degrees from TWO Ivy League schools? So much for that having some sort of intellectual cachet.

As for the "Juris Doctors", I say BFD. I can't count the number of JDs who couldn't manage to understand a statute or a Rule of Civil Procedure concept, even after it had been explained to them numerous times by the proud owner of a GED.

And those were always the ones who'd put "J.D" or "Esq." after their names on their screwed up pleadings.

I'm not saying that all people with law degrees are dumbasses, just saying that having one doesn't mean they're not. By a longshot.

nitrah55 wrote:

Sir_Galahad wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:Chuck Hagel: "Palin is not ready."

Thursday, September 18, 2008 - from NBC's Mark Murray

In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin does not have the foreign-policy experience to be president.

'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

This is laughable. And how much foreign policy did Clinton have before he took office? We all saw the great job he did. And, what about Jimmy Carter. There's another bozo for you. And how many other presidents had little to no foreign policy experience before taking office?

But, wait a minute! Sarah Palin is not running for president, is she?

The main job the VP has is stepping in if the President can't do the job.

As far as I'm concerned, she's running for President.