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... if, for a moment, if he ever thought that his decision to run for president was "hubris." Or that he ever thought that he thought he could handle the job? He may have but I don't recall ever hearing that question.

The media bias is so blatantly laughable.

(I hope the moratorium is over)

I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

I guarantee that Charlie Gibson would never have asked that question to Kay Bailey Hutchison.

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I guarantee that Charlie Gibson would never have asked that question to Kay Bailey Hutchison.

Can you guarantee what her response would have been to the question that he asked before that one?

I gotta say - that she didn't hesitate is hubris.

peacock2121 wrote:

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I guarantee that Charlie Gibson would never have asked that question to Kay Bailey Hutchison.

Can you guarantee what her response would have been to the question that he asked before that one?

I gotta say - that she didn't hesitate is hubris.

As I mentioned already, was any other response expected to that question? From anyone running for office? IMO, the time spent on it was a total waste of broadcast schedule.

peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

Well, as someone who has been awake the past several months, I also know that Palin did not give a spur-of-the-moment "yes" to the VP offer. She has been under consdieration since it was clear that McCain would be the nominee. It is the reason why she was asked by several political show hosts if she would take the job of VP.

Obama decided to run for President the moment he stepped away from the podium at the Democratic Convention in 2004. (Just like Bill Clinton re-affirmed his decisin to run in 1992 after the 1988 convention, after he saw how few viable candidates there were in the party.))

For Obama and Palin -- is it hubris or self-confidence? That is the question.

Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

Appa23 wrote: Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

So are convicts.

Appa23 wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

Well, as someone who has been awake the past several months, I also know that Palin did not give a spur-of-the-moment "yes" to the VP offer. She has been under consdieration since it was clear that McCain would be the nominee. It is the reason why she was asked by several political show hosts if she would take the job of VP.

Obama decided to run for President the moment he stepped away from the podium at the Democratic Convention in 2004. (Just like Bill Clinton re-affirmed his decisin to run in 1992 after the 1988 convention, after he saw how few viable candidates there were in the party.))

For Obama and Palin -- is it hubris or self-confidence? That is the question.

Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

Then, maybe her response about not having any hesitation was not the truth.

My point was - the hubris question came after she said she had no hestitation. Not out of the blue.

gsabc wrote:

Appa23 wrote: Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

So are convicts.

I thought all convicts thought "I won't get caught."
Then after conviction, they all say "I'm innocent!"

peacock2121 wrote:

Appa23 wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

Well, as someone who has been awake the past several months, I also know that Palin did not give a spur-of-the-moment "yes" to the VP offer. She has been under consdieration since it was clear that McCain would be the nominee. It is the reason why she was asked by several political show hosts if she would take the job of VP.

Obama decided to run for President the moment he stepped away from the podium at the Democratic Convention in 2004. (Just like Bill Clinton re-affirmed his decisin to run in 1992 after the 1988 convention, after he saw how few viable candidates there were in the party.))

For Obama and Palin -- is it hubris or self-confidence? That is the question.

Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

Then, maybe her response about not having any hesitation was not the truth.

How so? For 2-3 months, she knew that she might be asked to be someone's VP, likely McCain's. So, she thought about it. She discussed it with family and friends.

The question was (paraphrasing), "When he asked you in late August to be his VP, did you hestitate?" In that she already had thought about the possibility, she did not hestitate to say yes.

Lets pretend that you are back in high school, and you have heard from your friends that Jimmy Jenkins likes you. The Spring Formal is coming up. So, you start thinking about what you will say if Jimmy asks you to be his date. When he does ask you if you want to go with him, you already have your answer ready.

gsabc wrote:

Appa23 wrote: Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

So are convicts.

Sometimes there's no difference.

Appa23 wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:

Appa23 wrote: Well, as someone who has been awake the past several months, I also know that Palin did not give a spur-of-the-moment "yes" to the VP offer. She has been under consdieration since it was clear that McCain would be the nominee. It is the reason why she was asked by several political show hosts if she would take the job of VP.

Obama decided to run for President the moment he stepped away from the podium at the Democratic Convention in 2004. (Just like Bill Clinton re-affirmed his decisin to run in 1992 after the 1988 convention, after he saw how few viable candidates there were in the party.))

For Obama and Palin -- is it hubris or self-confidence? That is the question.

Aren't all great leaders instilled with the thought that "I know that I can win/succeed"?

Then, maybe her response about not having any hesitation was not the truth.

How so? For 2-3 months, she knew that she might be asked to be someone's VP, likely McCain's. So, she thought about it. She discussed it with family and friends.

The question was (paraphrasing), "When he asked you in late August to be his VP, did you hestitate?" In that she already had thought about the possibility, she did not hestitate to say yes.

Lets pretend that you are back in high school, and you have heard from your friends that Jimmy Jenkins likes you. The Spring Formal is coming up. So, you start thinking about what you will say if Jimmy asks you to be his date. When he does ask you if you want to go with him, you already have your answer ready.

I knew Jim Jenkins. I went to school with Jim Jenkins. I know people who were friends with Jim Jenkins. Sir,

Spoiler

Pea would not have gone out with Jim Jenkins

Rexer25 wrote:

gsabc wrote:

Appa23 wrote: I thought all convicts thought "I won't get caught."
Then after conviction, they all say "I'm innocent!"

<LOL> I am laughing at this because...

Lady G and I watch "The First 48" on cable whenever it's on. And, so many times we see the detectives bring someone in for questioning that will swear on a stack of bibles that they "don't know nothin' about nothin'" Of course, once they are presented with all the evidence against them, they break down and confess.

peacock2121 wrote:
There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

Sarah Palin was on McCain's (if not the media's) short list for a couple of months, so she had plenty of time to think about it, as did a number of other short list politicians in both parties who let it be known they weren't interested. So it's not as if Ed McMahon walked up to her house one day waving a giant check.

And Obama's been thinking about running for president his entire adult life.

And Obama's been thinking about running for president his entire adult life.

Thank goodness! Someone who thinks ahead and plans things out. What a change that will be in the Oval Office!

ne1410s wrote:Thank goodness! Someone who thinks ahead and plans things out. What a change that will be in the Oval Office!

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peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

That's unfair- the VP candidate doesn't get to have "months" to make his/her decision.

Jeemie wrote: That's unfair- the VP candidate doesn't get to have "months" to make his/her decision.

She may not have had "months" to make her decision, but she had weeks, just the same as I did when I took my last job. From the time of my last job interview until they extended an offer was about three weeks.

Before that, I knew what the job entailed, what it paid, and what my other options were, and had decided if it was offered, I would accept. So my job acceptance was somewhat the same as hers.

Gibson's rather lame attempts at gotcha politics aside, I'm sure she considered what would be involved in this well before any actual offer was made.

Jeemie wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

That's unfair- the VP candidate doesn't get to have "months" to make his/her decision.

Not if you listen to and believe HoltDad.

peacock2121 wrote:

Jeemie wrote:

peacock2121 wrote:I will not defend or pretend to approve of how Charlie was with her.

There is a difference between her immediate "yes" to running for VP and his "yes" to running for president. He did not make his choice in the short time she says she did. He spent months making his choice.

Anyone who has been awake for the last year knows that.

That's unfair- the VP candidate doesn't get to have "months" to make his/her decision.

Not if you listen to and believe HoltDad.

I am guessing that you didn't really hear the question and answer. Gibson asked (paraphrasing here), "Did you hesitate after McCain asked you", and she said "No." Gibson never asked how much thought and consideration she had given the VP position prior to being asked. You seem to think that Palin made a spur-of-the-moment decision, with no evidence to back up that allegation.

I can not tell you how much Palin did think about the position, mainly becuase no one in the media has asked. However, it is known that she knew that she was a definite possibility, based on political show hosts asking her about whether she would like to be VP and the fact that she was the choice or front-runner on mainly conservative site's polls and blogs.

I can not tell you how much Palin did think about the position, mainly becuase no one in the media has asked.

But, I do love the interview where she stated that she didn't even know what the VP did. Ready from day one.

ne1410s wrote:

I can not tell you how much Palin did think about the position, mainly becuase no one in the media has asked.

But, I do love the interview where she stated that she didn't even know what the VP did. Ready from day one.

Do you have a link to the whole interview (text or video is fine). All I've seen is the one clause clipped out, and from the tone, it sounds like she's not really saying she doesn't know what the VP does, but I can't tell for sure.

Oh, and for the record, just what does the VP do everyday?

I think the answer to that question very much depend on who the President is.

Without the full context, I can't know for sure, but it seems more to me like Governor Palin was saying that she wouldn't be interested unless someone could explain what her duties would be in a McCain White House.

Do you have a link to the whole interview (text or video is fine).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oro2Yh9HoEM

Hope this works. You will have to wade thru some Kudlow blather for a while.

Now that I've seen it (thanks 10s), I do believe that she was being a little flippant about it, but I don't believe that it truly supports the claim that she doesn't know what a VP does. Of course, as I hinted at, most people don't know what a VP does. And that does include several people deeply entrenched in politics.

I also believe that the more Democrats attacks Governor Palin's "qualifications" the more it backfires and makes people realize that Senator Obama's résumé is a bit thin as well.