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danielh41 wrote:Amie Parnes reports from Lebanon, VA:

Obama poked fun of McCain and Palin's new "change" mantra.

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said as the crowd cheered. "It's still a pig."

"You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still gonna stink."

"We've had enough of the same old thing."

The crowd apparently took the "lipstick" line as a reference to Palin, who described the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull in a single word: "lipstick."

Besides, if this quote is all on the up and up reveals a certain lack of originality in speechifying metaphors.

This will probably win even more support for Palin and less for Obama if peole do take the "lipstick on a pig" as a reference to Palin. Obama and his campaign are imploding, which is a good thing for our country...

mrkelley23 wrote:Let me see if I've got this straight. Gov. Palin can explicitly compare herself to a pit bull, in fact compare herself and presumably a whole bunch of other women to pit bulls, with the only difference being lipstick, and that's okay, even admirable. Let Sen. Obama make a comment which is a well-known aphorism, at least to us rednecks, and he's obviously making a personal attack, even though a quick reading of the words in context make it clear that he's talking about the Republican platform of "change." This smacks of the same kind of hypocrisy which says it is okay for certain racial groups to refer to each other by racial epithets, but nobody outside the circle is allowed to.

"He must be speaking in code."

Isn't this exactly the kind of hypersensitivity SSS and others were accusing Sen. Obama of during the campaign?

Beebs52 wrote:

mrkelley23 wrote:Let me see if I've got this straight. Gov. Palin can explicitly compare herself to a pit bull, in fact compare herself and presumably a whole bunch of other women to pit bulls, with the only difference being lipstick, and that's okay, even admirable. Let Sen. Obama make a comment which is a well-known aphorism, at least to us rednecks, and he's obviously making a personal attack, even though a quick reading of the words in context make it clear that he's talking about the Republican platform of "change." This smacks of the same kind of hypocrisy which says it is okay for certain racial groups to refer to each other by racial epithets, but nobody outside the circle is allowed to.

"He must be speaking in code."

Isn't this exactly the kind of hypersensitivity SSS and others were accusing Sen. Obama of during the campaign?

I keep getting my comments mixed in with quotes. I'm an idiot.

Actually, the lipstick on a pig thing is sort of overused. It's a trite takeoff on something funny, lipstick/pit bull. My only complaint was that it wasn't particularly entrancing as an attention getter. It has nothing to do with whether or not he's "dissing" anyone at all. He should have used some sort of pitbull analogy then. Or boxstore bought lipstick. Stuff like that.

Bob Juch wrote:I've heard McCain use the same phrase in his speeches.

mrkelley23 wrote:

Beebs52 wrote:

mrkelley23 wrote:Let me see if I've got this straight. Gov. Palin can explicitly compare herself to a pit bull, in fact compare herself and presumably a whole bunch of other women to pit bulls, with the only difference being lipstick, and that's okay, even admirable. Let Sen. Obama make a comment which is a well-known aphorism, at least to us rednecks, and he's obviously making a personal attack, even though a quick reading of the words in context make it clear that he's talking about the Republican platform of "change." This smacks of the same kind of hypocrisy which says it is okay for certain racial groups to refer to each other by racial epithets, but nobody outside the circle is allowed to.

"He must be speaking in code."

Isn't this exactly the kind of hypersensitivity SSS and others were accusing Sen. Obama of during the campaign?

I keep getting my comments mixed in with quotes. I'm an idiot.

Actually, the lipstick on a pig thing is sort of overused. It's a trite takeoff on something funny, lipstick/pit bull. My only complaint was that it wasn't particularly entrancing as an attention getter. It has nothing to do with whether or not he's "dissing" anyone at all. He should have used some sort of pitbull analogy then. Or boxstore bought lipstick. Stuff like that.

I didn't even see your comment. I just saw the quote ended the same way the previous message did, so I ASSumed you hit post too soon and were busily typing a devastating diatribe of one sort or another (I can never predict which side you're going to humiliate) so I quickly typed something out in response to the first message, to try to beat you to the punch.....

I've heard McCain use the same phrase in his speeches.

hf_jai wrote:The first time I ever hear the "lipstick on a pig" line was from Charlie Rangel back while the Republicans still controlled the House. I literally laughed out loud.

But when I heard Palin's line about hockey moms and pit bulls, I thought that was pretty damned funny too.

I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

franktangredi wrote:

hf_jai wrote:The first time I ever hear the "lipstick on a pig" line was from Charlie Rangel back while the Republicans still controlled the House. I literally laughed out loud.

But when I heard Palin's line about hockey moms and pit bulls, I thought that was pretty damned funny too.

I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

No, this is just another example of somebody who's mind is already made up jumping on anything that can be interpreted in the exact way that want it to be.

Nobody need feel self-righteous. Both sides are adept at this.

In fact, it's amazing how often I've read in the past few days that both candidates have pretty much lost the election through the latest thing they've said/latest poll/latest whatever. By the strangest coincidence, each prediction always expresses exactly the wishes of the person making the prediction.

Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!

franktangredi wrote:[snip]In fact, it's amazing how often I've read in the past few days that both candidates have pretty much lost the election through the latest thing they've said/latest poll/latest whatever. By the strangest coincidence, each prediction always expresses exactly the wishes of the person making the prediction.

Here's my prediction: even though I favor Obama, NEITHER CANDIDATE, IF THEY WIN, IS GOING TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY!!!!!!!

silverscreenselect wrote:What would have happened if McCain had said "you can feed argula to a monkey but it's still a monkey."

VAdame wrote:The Wild Sow sez:

So whaddya girlz think? Is it meeeee?

Bob Juch wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:What would have happened if McCain had said "you can feed argula to a monkey but it's still a monkey."

People would have laughed at him.

What McCain did say is, "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," in reference to your darling Hillary's health-care plan.

silverscreenselect wrote:I don't need a second immature juvenile in a row in the White House.

"John McCain says he's about change, too. So I guess his whole angle is: Watch out, George Bush--except for economic policy, healthcare policy, tax policy, education policy, foreign policy and Karl Rove-style politics, we're really going to shake things up in Washington. That's not change. That's just calling the same thing something different. But you can put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change, and it's still going to stink after eight years."

silverscreenselect wrote:

Bob Juch wrote:

silverscreenselect wrote:What would have happened if McCain had said "you can feed argula to a monkey but it's still a monkey."

People would have laughed at him.

What McCain did say is, "I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," in reference to your darling Hillary's health-care plan.

McCain was referring to Hillary's health plan. Obama was referring to Palin and everyone knows it.