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McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:40 am
by peacock2121
I loved this line:
"Ignore the ground noise and static" It served it's purpose. I love a man who can do that.
I hated that the camera went to the protesters during his speech. Especially the guy with the banner. That was disrespectful and not necessary.
I appreciated the lack of snarkiness.
I felt badly that he was not good at pausing at the right time for reaction or applause.
I agreed very little with him, but that is not a surprise. What was a surprise was how few times I thought "You gotta be kidding me."
Oh - I didn't know he had 7 kids.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:51 am
by dimmzy
Oh - I didn't know he had 7 kids.
First marriage. Second marriage. Her first marriage. Adopted.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:53 am
by dimmzy
"Ignore the ground noise and static" It served its purpose. I love a man who can do that.
Many men do that -- especially when their infants need changing

Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:19 am
by gsabc
peacock2121 wrote:I agreed very little with him, but that is not a surprise. What was a surprise was how few times I thought "You gotta be kidding me."
I made up for you, pea. And the GOP had the nerve to say that Obama didn't have any specifics in HIS acceptance speech. I kept thinking, "Fine. These sound great. How much work have you put in toward achieving them during your 26 years in Congress?"
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:47 am
by Sir_Galahad
peacock2121 wrote:
I appreciated the lack of snarkiness.
I think I remember that he said that he wanted to keep the campaign as clean as possible. He did not want to get down in the dirt. Yes, some of his commercial spots provided some digs but. in watching the commercials, I did not see anything that was not true.
I felt badly that he was not good at pausing at the right time for reaction or applause.
The big stadium speeches and reading from the teleprompter is not his style or preferred method. He prefers the smaller "town hall" venues where he can see the people he is addressing.
I agreed very little with him, but that is not a surprise. What was a surprise was how few times I thought "You gotta be kidding me."
I wasn't so much watching to agree or disagree. I was watching to hear more specifics as to what his economic, immigration and education plans were. I did not hear too much of that. In that respect, I did not think his speech was all that different from Obama's.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:48 am
by NellyLunatic1980
From above, the runway upon which McCain gave his speech looked like a giant phallus. An appropriate symbol, given what the Republican Party has done to this country over the last 8 years. Of course, there's a connection between that and the logo for the convention, which is an elephant with a wide stance. Also, zoologists know that when an elephant stands on just its hind legs, it's prepared to mate.
PAGING DR. FREUD®!
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:49 am
by Sir_Galahad
gsabc wrote:
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
I heard it the other way around. McCain's campaign got the $10 Mil.
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:03 am
by NellyLunatic1980
Sir_Galahad wrote:gsabc wrote:
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
I heard it the other way around. McCain's campaign got the $10 Mil.
Wrong as usual.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_ ... ma_money_1
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:25 am
by danielh41
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Sir_Galahad wrote:gsabc wrote:
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
I heard it the other way around. McCain's campaign got the $10 Mil.
Wrong as usual.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_ ... ma_money_1
Obama's campaign got 10 million because the liberals are panicking. Sarah Palin gave a knockout speech that appeals to a lot of the masses. They thought they had the election in the bag, and now they know that they don't. They are scared, and they should be scared...
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:34 am
by wbtravis007
Everybody seems to think it wasn't a very good night. Maybe they're right, but I wasn't thinking that at the time.
I guess I tend to watch stuff through the eyes of the kind of people that they're trying to reach.
Even Lindsey Graham -- who's just getting uglier and uglier as the mean-spiritedness and bitterness ooze from his face -- was effective on some level, I thought.
Maybe I'm just easy.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:49 am
by Bob Juch
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:From above, the runway upon which McCain gave his speech looked like a giant phallus. An appropriate symbol, given what the Republican Party has done to this country over the last 8 years. Of course, there's a connection between that and the logo for the convention, which is an elephant with a wide stance. Also, zoologists know that when an elephant stands on just its hind legs, it's prepared to mate.
PAGING DR. FREUD®!
No, the stage looked like a middle finger with the ones on either side curved.
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:09 am
by Sir_Galahad
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Sir_Galahad wrote:gsabc wrote:
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
I heard it the other way around. McCain's campaign got the $10 Mil.
Wrong as usual.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_ ... ma_money_1
As usual?? I think maybe a gentle nudge towards your link would have been sufficient. But, I suppose I should expect nothing less from a loony leftist.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:39 am
by JBillyGirl
$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine. I also gave $25 to Hillary Clinton as a goodwill gesture for her forthright support of her former opponent.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:46 am
by silverscreenselect
I got a letter yesterday allegedly from the Democratic National Committee. However, the return address on the front said "Barack Obama." I guess the committee must not want any Democratic candidates to get my money; not just Obama.
FWIW, I do plan to contribute directly to the campaign of Jim Martin, who is running for Senate against that sleazeball Saxby Chambless.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:56 am
by BackInTex
dimmzy wrote:
Many men do that -- especially when their infants need changing

Have you been talking to my wife????
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:03 am
by MarleysGh0st
JBillyGirl wrote:$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine.
Were you panicking?
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:14 am
by JBillyGirl
MarleysGh0st wrote:JBillyGirl wrote:$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine.
Were you panicking?
If danielh says so, then golly gee, I must have been.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:31 am
by NellyLunatic1980
JBillyGirl wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:JBillyGirl wrote:$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine.
Were you panicking?
If danielh says so, then golly gee, I must have been.
Now that both of the conventions are over, there should be a ton of state polls being conducted today, tomorrow, and Sunday. I'll start posting those state polls again starting on Monday and we'll see who panics.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 9:48 am
by secondchance
Did anyone notice how perky his 96 year old mother is- the way she sprung up so quickly when introduced, and stood up so straight? She's the most youthful looking almost-centenarian I've ever seen. They could almost be mistaken for spouses rather than mother and son.
Any fears of him croaking in office can be somewhat alleviated by the display of
that half of his gene pool!

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:49 am
by Timsterino
JBillyGirl wrote:$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine. I also gave $25 to Hillary Clinton as a goodwill gesture for her forthright support of her former opponent.
Me too on Obama, I think I should do the same for Clinton. Wait, does that mean I am panicing too?
Ohhh the sky is falling, all those damn liberals are going crazy.

Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:58 am
by Thousandaire
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Sir_Galahad wrote:gsabc wrote:
A telling point, from a news report I heard: McCain campaign raised one million dollars after Palin's speech. Obama campaign raised TEN million.
I heard it the other way around. McCain's campaign got the $10 Mil.
Wrong as usual.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080905/ap_ ... ma_money_1
"McCain can no longer raise private donations for his campaign because he has decided to accept $85 million in public financing for the fall campaign."
This makes the comparison meaningless. Obama should be way out in front. All that money isn't helping him.
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:05 am
by ToLiveIsToFly
Thousandaire wrote:
"McCain can no longer raise private donations for his campaign because he has decided to accept $85 million in public financing for the fall campaign."
This makes the comparison meaningless. Obama should be way out in front. All that money isn't helping him.
The public financing thing doesn't kick in until today. And Obama's not really way out in front on financing. The RNC has a big enough money advantage over the DNC that it almost negates (I haven't looked at the numbers lately, maybe it's no longer almost) the Obama campaign's money advantage over McCain's.
People who can't give to McCain's campaign are just giving to the RNC instead.
If, as I think I read last somewhere, but can't find now, Obama's campaign raised $10M compared to the RNC raising $1M, that is not a meaningless comparison.
Also, Obama is spending record amounts on his ground game. Who knows if it'll turn out to work, but the theory is that a lot of that money won't show up in the polling but will show up in the final results.
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:05 am
by NellyLunatic1980
Timsterino wrote:JBillyGirl wrote:$25 of that $10 million for Obama was mine. I also gave $25 to Hillary Clinton as a goodwill gesture for her forthright support of her former opponent.
Me too on Obama, I think I should do the same for Clinton. Wait, does that mean I am panicing too?
Ohhh the sky is falling, all those damn liberals are going crazy.

Over the last 13 months, I've given a total of $475 to the Obama campaign.

OH NOES!
I'll be on the fainting couch.
Re: McCain's Speech
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:09 am
by Appa23
ToLiveIsToFly wrote:Thousandaire wrote:
"McCain can no longer raise private donations for his campaign because he has decided to accept $85 million in public financing for the fall campaign."
This makes the comparison meaningless. Obama should be way out in front. All that money isn't helping him.
The public financing thing doesn't kick in until today. And Obama's not really way out in front on financing. The RNC has a big enough money advantage over the DNC that it almost negates (I haven't looked at the numbers lately, maybe it's no longer almost) the Obama campaign's money advantage over McCain's.
People who can't give to McCain's campaign are just giving to the RNC instead.
If, as I think I read last somewhere, but can't find now, Obama's campaign raised $10M compared to the RNC raising $1M, that is not a meaningless comparison.
Also, Obama is spending record amounts on his ground game. Who knows if it'll turn out to work, but the theory is that a lot of that money won't show up in the polling but will show up in the final results.
For specifically, all money raised before he accepted the nomination had to be used before he accepted the nomination.
So, why give money that he can not use. Is he really going to pay to run a bunch of ads when he is getting a free 1 hour ad on every major netowrk and cable station?
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:15 am
by etaoin22
Well, the reality is...
You do not want a speech which energizes your base and energizes the other candidate's base.
You want a speech which energizes your base and puts the other candidate's base to sleep.
Bubba was good at that.
(From Canada, I had no horse in his race, and he tended to put me to sleep. Dems loved him IIRC)