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When Sarah Palin says Jump

#1 Post by Spock » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:16 am

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#2 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:48 am

I like it!

I have no real opinion of Gov. Palin yet, but I have to admit that the negative and tasteless reactions here and elsewhere have biased me in her favor.

And as to the "Least qualified" tag, ain't nobody ever gona exceed our homeboy Danny Quayle in that regard. Unless it's one of the other many Hoosier VPs throughout history.
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#3 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:52 am

mrkelley23 wrote:I like it!

I have no real opinion of Gov. Palin yet, but I have to admit that the negative and tasteless reactions here and elsewhere have biased me in her favor.

And as to the "Least qualified" tag, ain't nobody ever gona exceed our homeboy Danny Quayle in that regard. Unless it's one of the other many Hoosier VPs throughout history.
You do realize that Quayle was more "qualified" than Obama is, right?

By current standards, George Washington could never have become President because he would be considered "unqualified."
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#4 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:21 am

That's why I don't understand the whole "qualified" argument.

We want a reform candidate, right? It seems the majority of the American people have finally come around to ABB mentality. So why are we quibbling about experience in certain areas.

Let me put it this way: I'm delighted with all 4 candidates. Heck, I would have been delighted with Kucinich against Romney if it meant there wouldn't have been a Bush or an old Nixonian within a hundred yards of the White House.

Dan Quayle could have held every elected office in this land, and he still wouldn't have been qualified to be President. Obama, McCain, Biden, and, at least as far as I can tell now, Palin are all qualified. So let's get back to a discussion of the issues and which side lines up most closely with what each of us individually believes. And don't spite-vote or sit out. Our system, like it or not, gives you 2 major choices and a bunch of minor ones, so vote for the candidate or the party you most believe in.

Sorry, that turned into a sermon, and I really didn't intend it to. It's obviously not aimed at Cal, since I know he'll vote.
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#5 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:56 am

vp selection day is similar to the debate over who should be the Steelers 3rd string QB.It lasts for a week and hardly ever matters.

Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.

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#6 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:05 am

BigDrawMan wrote:vp selection day is similar to the debate over who should be the Steelers 3rd string QB.It lasts for a week and hardly ever matters.

Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.
and..... when it does matter, it really matters.

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#7 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:11 am

peacock2121 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:vp selection day is similar to the debate over who should be the Steelers 3rd string QB.It lasts for a week and hardly ever matters.

Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.
and..... when it does matter, it really matters.

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indeed

we went 15-1 the last time it mattered.
And Sarah aint no Big Ben.

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#8 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:36 am

BigDrawMan wrote:
Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.
Many voters use those two issues to line their beliefs up with the candidates, as MrKelley says to do. Two years ago, many local lawns sported Democratic Candidate A yard signs right next to those of Republican Candidate B because both are pro-choice, even though the offices the two were running for will never deal with it ever.
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#9 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:49 am

SportsFan68 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.
Many voters use those two issues to line their beliefs up with the candidates, as MrKelley says to do. Two years ago, many local lawns sported Democratic Candidate A yard signs right next to those of Republican Candidate B because both are pro-choice, even though the offices the two were running for will never deal with it ever.[/quot


I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.

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#10 Post by BackInTex » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:54 am

BigDrawMan wrote: I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.
BS

Most of those not included in the over 205K group still work and need jobs.

The non-GOP folks talk about handouts, welfare, and other free stuff because their base doesn't care about working. At least that's what it seems like.

Or they talk about 'creating' jobs? How? They don't have a clue because all they want to talk about is taxing the the over 250K group more, so they can give it to those who don't care about working. What do you think happens to the jobs then?
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#11 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:56 am

BigDrawMan wrote:
SportsFan68 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:
Much like a candidates position on abortion and the death penalty.
Many voters use those two issues to line their beliefs up with the candidates, as MrKelley says to do. Two years ago, many local lawns sported Democratic Candidate A yard signs right next to those of Republican Candidate B because both are pro-choice, even though the offices the two were running for will never deal with it ever.[/quot


I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.
Lawyers voting for their financial best interests usually vote for the Dems.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#12 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:06 am

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I will expand on what thinktank guy said.He was on Fresh Air a few weeks ago, along with Obama and McCains chief economic advisers to explain what the candidates tax plans would mean to various income groups.
He concluded that if you made under 250k, you would take home more money under Obama.If you made over that, you would take home more under McCain.
Also, Obama would increase the capital gains tax to so,dividend earners would be better off under MCCain.

An interesting point he made was that a large tax shelter industry which converts the wages of very high income types to capital gains would perish under Obama,as the gap between the top marginal rate and the cap gains rate would be too small to support it.

it is ok to vote against your own self interests.
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#13 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:07 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:You do realize that Quayle was more "qualified" than Obama is, right?
Cal, I'm pretty sure Obama knows how to spell "potato." --Bob
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#14 Post by Appa23 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:14 am

BigDrawMan wrote:I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.
I think that was a statement by the Dean Institute. :roll:

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#15 Post by BackInTex » Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:18 am

BigDrawMan wrote:I will expand on what thinktank guy said.He was on Fresh Air a few weeks ago, along with Obama and McCains chief economic advisers to explain what the candidates tax plans would mean to various income groups.
He concluded that if you made under 250k, you would take home more money under Obama.
If they still have a job, and are grossing the same amount. Both big ifs under Marxism.
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#16 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:43 am

Bob78164 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:You do realize that Quayle was more "qualified" than Obama is, right?
Cal, I'm pretty sure Obama knows how to spell "potato." --Bob
Doesn't anybody else know (or remember) the true story of the extra "e"?
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#17 Post by Tocqueville3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:49 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:You do realize that Quayle was more "qualified" than Obama is, right?
Cal, I'm pretty sure Obama knows how to spell "potato." --Bob
Doesn't anybody else know (or remember) the true story of the extra "e"?
I think Quayle said he spelled potato with the extra "e" because you put an "e" on the end of the word to make it plural.

But the kid wasn't asked to spell potatoes.

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#18 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:03 pm

Tocqueville3 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:Cal, I'm pretty sure Obama knows how to spell "potato." --Bob
Doesn't anybody else know (or remember) the true story of the extra "e"?
I think Quayle said he spelled potato with the extra "e" because you put an "e" on the end of the word to make it plural.

But the kid wasn't asked to spell potatoes.
No, Quayle was using the word cards provided by the classroom teacher. The card he was given had the extra "e" on the end, and he thought that might be the way the teacher had taught her students to spell it.

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#19 Post by ne1410s » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:05 pm

DQ:

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#20 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:13 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:You do realize that Quayle was more "qualified" than Obama is, right?
Cal, I'm pretty sure Obama knows how to spell "potato." --Bob
Doesn't anybody else know (or remember) the true story of the extra "e"?
I do. I also know and remember the true story of Gov. Gloom's "duty to die" remark.

My question is, who cares? Cal and me?

Probably.
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#21 Post by Tocqueville3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 12:22 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Tocqueville3 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote: Doesn't anybody else know (or remember) the true story of the extra "e"?
I think Quayle said he spelled potato with the extra "e" because you put an "e" on the end of the word to make it plural.

But the kid wasn't asked to spell potatoes.
No, Quayle was using the word cards provided by the classroom teacher. The card he was given had the extra "e" on the end, and he thought that might be the way the teacher had taught her students to spell it.

http://www.rightgrrl.com/carolyn/potatoe.html
Gee, I dint know there was gonna be quiz.

I also never heard that story. It surely doesn't make Dan Quayle look like the complete idiot "some" said he was.

He looked like an idiot for other reasons.

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#22 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:59 pm

If they still have a job, and are grossing the same amount. Both big ifs under Marxism.[/quote]
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I dont know whether to laugh or wind my watch.

You voted for that exact thing. twice.

Would you vote for Bush again vs Obama if he could run??

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#23 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:00 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:If they still have a job, and are grossing the same amount. Both big ifs under Marxism.

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I dont know whether to laugh or wind my watch.

You voted for that exact thing. twice.

Would you vote for Bush again vs Obama if he could run??[/quote]

Dude, it's all big govmint, all the time. Why would you ask a question without an answer?
Well, then

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#24 Post by BigDrawMan » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:14 pm

I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.[/quote]

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#25 Post by Tocqueville3 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:16 pm

BigDrawMan wrote:I heard a report by a think tank analyst-i think from the Cato Inst- who said that if you make less than 250K, it is not in your financial best interests to vote for the GOP.Since those who make over that figure are a minority, they need to confuse their base with nonissues that they will do nothing about.
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Dude, you said that already.

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