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Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
I think not. I think the Constitution provides for what happens once someone takes office.SportsFan68 wrote:What happens if the person who is elected President dies before s/he takes office? Does the person who was elected VP automatically assume the Presidency in January?
That one, I'm not sure about.SportsFan68 wrote:What happens if the person who is elected President dies before s/he takes office? Does the person who was elected VP automatically assume the Presidency in January?
From Wikipedia, so take it for what it's worth:SportsFan68 wrote:What happens if the person who is elected President dies before s/he takes office? Does the person who was elected VP automatically assume the Presidency in January?
Assuming Wikipedia is correct, if the President-elect dies before the Electoral College votes, then it's up in the air (with all of the Electoral College, not just those pledged to the late, victorious candidate) having a say. I suspect the presumptive VP-elect would be selected, to avoid a messy free-for-all.Ritterskoop wrote:For instance, in the current situation, say Obama is elected President, with Biden as VP.
Say Obama dies between November and January, and does not assume office.
Would those who voted for Obama prefer that Biden be President, or Hillary Clinton? They should have a chance to say, even if it's only through Democratic Party delegates.
I picked the Democratic names because I am more familiar with them.
There is actually a cascade of events along the way that should "solve" the situation.SportsFan68 wrote:What happens if the person who is elected President dies before s/he takes office? Does the person who was elected VP automatically assume the Presidency in January?
Everything I've been able to unearth indicates that if the Electoral College has made its selection then that person is President-elect. If the President-elect dies, then the Vice President-elect becomes President-elect. After the inauguration the new President would nominate someone to serve as VP and Congress would confirm that selection.Ritterskoop wrote:For instance, in the current situation, say Obama is elected President, with Biden as VP.
Say Obama dies between November and January, and does not assume office.
Would those who voted for Obama prefer that Biden be President, or Hillary Clinton? They should have a chance to say, even if it's only through Democratic Party delegates.
I picked the Democratic names because I am more familiar with them.
Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.andrewjackson wrote:The trickiest would probably be if the nominee dies between the Convention and Election Day. The party would then presumably get to pick a new nominee. That would probably be more chaotic than any of the scenarios above.
Oh, I can definitely see where that would make a good book. This year would make an even better one in terms of a book. In either party but the fight in the Democratic Party would probably be the most fun to watch.earendel wrote:Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.andrewjackson wrote:The trickiest would probably be if the nominee dies between the Convention and Election Day. The party would then presumably get to pick a new nominee. That would probably be more chaotic than any of the scenarios above.
Funny you should say that - the second sequal to A&C (following A Shade of Difference), Capable of Honor deals with a situation in which the sitting President, an affable but inept man, seeks his party's nomination, only to be challenged by the governor of California. Mind you, this was in the days of the "smoke-filled room" rather than the current situation. At the convention the governor challenges the President but loses by a narrow margin and expects to be named the VP candidate because of the support he has. But the President chooses someone else and the governor (and the delegates who supported him) walk out of the convention. The book ends with speculation about a third-party bid by the governor.andrewjackson wrote:Oh, I can definitely see where that would make a good book. This year would make an even better one in terms of a book. In either party but the fight in the Democratic Party would probably be the most fun to watch.earendel wrote:Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.andrewjackson wrote:The trickiest would probably be if the nominee dies between the Convention and Election Day. The party would then presumably get to pick a new nominee. That would probably be more chaotic than any of the scenarios above.
Not that I want that to happen. A nice boring election with a clear-cut winner who sails through the Electoral College and Inauguration would be a nice change.
I read this whole series of Cold War political thrillers when I was a teenager. You, too, ear?earendel wrote: Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.
Add me to the list. My memory about them is not too clear, though. Ever read his Egyptian Pharoah books?MarleysGh0st wrote:I read this whole series of Cold War political thrillers when I was a teenager. You, too, ear?earendel wrote: Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.
Yes!gsabc wrote: Add me to the list. My memory about them is not too clear, though. Ever read his Egyptian Pharoah books?
Yeah.MarleysGh0st wrote:I read this whole series of Cold War political thrillers when I was a teenager. You, too, ear?earendel wrote: Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.
MarleysGh0st wrote:Spoiler
Wikipedia doesn't have entries for Come Nineveh, Come Tyre or The Promise of Joy; was it the latter which had the Soviet Union overthrown, the Chinese Red Army invading Russia, and the U.S. President siding with the new Russian government at the end of the in some manner that wasn't spelled out, but which I guessed to involve launching nukes against those invading Chinese?
Do you think that he will pick Lieberman or Huckabee?Sir_Galahad wrote:Say McCain selects Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate in order to attempt to get the woman vote. And, by virtue of this, he does get elected. Now, let's say Hutchinson has second thoughts and decides to resign a few months down the road (can she do this?). Does McCain get to select a new VP or is an election held to replace her?
Romney.PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:Do you think that he will pick Lieberman or Huckabee?Sir_Galahad wrote:Say McCain selects Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate in order to attempt to get the woman vote. And, by virtue of this, he does get elected. Now, let's say Hutchinson has second thoughts and decides to resign a few months down the road (can she do this?). Does McCain get to select a new VP or is an election held to replace her?
Except for the rifles, this is like the boneheads who showed up at one of the convention venues with Old West bank robber type bandannas over their faces. I walked by and laughed. I think they woulda been cute if they weren't so stupid.admanvii wrote:In a scary thought 4 people were arrested with high powered rifles in Denver. The local authorities are down playing the incident but one suspect claimed that two were there to shoot Obama. Here is the link from BBC News.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7581611.stm
I udnerstand the hypotheticalfillocity of the question.Sir_Galahad wrote:Say McCain selects Kay Bailey Hutchinson as his running mate in order to attempt to get the woman vote. And, by virtue of this, he does get elected. Now, let's say Hutchinson has second thoughts and decides to resign a few months down the road (can she do this?). Does McCain get to select a new VP or is an election held to replace her?