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President Bush ordered the CIA to manufacture a false pretense for the Iraq war in the form of a backdated, handwritten document linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, an explosive new book claims. “It was a dark day for the CIA,” Ron Suskind said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/

Bob Juch wrote:President Bush ordered the CIA to manufacture a false pretense for the Iraq war in the form of a backdated, handwritten document linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, an explosive new book claims. “It was a dark day for the CIA,” Ron Suskind said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/

I heard this on NPR this morning. George Tennant denies the whole thing. My guess is that those who said there were none will eat this up and those who support the president will call it just another conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.

Even if someone in the White House or Congress "knew" something they didn't disclose, there is nothing more stupid then people who put stickers up around town saying "911 was an inside job"! I tore one off of a local mail box here in the OC. Sick, sick, sick!

dodgersteve182 wrote:Even if someone in the White House or Congress "knew" something they didn't disclose, there is nothing more stupid then people who put stickers up around town saying "911 was an inside job"! I tore one off of a local mail box here in the OC. Sick, sick, sick!

I agree that those stickers were at best tasteless and at worst sick. But I don't know that the idea they contain should be similarly dismissed.


Perhaps those people were among the handful who actually watched the pilot for "The Lone Gunmen", the failed spinoff of "The X-Files", which aired in March 2001. In that episode, the Gunmen narrowly foil a terrorist plot to use a remote control device to override a commercial jet's flight controls and crash it into... the World Trade Center.

The interesting twist was that the culprits were actually a small group within our own government. They wanted to demonstrate that the U.S. was vastly underprepared for potential terrorist acts, and to use the incident as justification for quickly and significantly upgrading our defense measures towards those ends.

If you'd seen that episode, you couldn't help think about it on 9/11... though at the time it just seemed like an awful coincidence. After all, it's just a TV show, right? But the way things have played out over the succeeding years have unfortunately made it seem much less coincidental, and the twist far more plausible.


And in other news, little Ronnie Suskind looks a lot older than he did when we went to high school together. But then, so do I.

Bob Juch wrote:President Bush ordered the CIA to manufacture a false pretense for the Iraq war in the form of a backdated, handwritten document linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, an explosive new book claims. “It was a dark day for the CIA,” Ron Suskind said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/

Tell me something that I haven't known for the last 5 years.

Anybody read Sy Hersh's piece last week about how members of the Bush Administration met with Cheney to discuss how to create a casus belli with Iran? They thought about dressing up Navy SEALs as Iranians and having them and other Navy SEALs shoot each other. That was something I didn't know... and it scared the ____ out of me.

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Tell me something that I haven't known for the last 5 years.

Anybody read Sy Hersh's piece last week about how members of the Bush Administration met with Cheney to discuss how to create a casus belli with Iran? They thought about dressing up Navy SEALs as Iranians and having them and other Navy SEALs shoot each other. That was something I didn't know... and it scared the ____ out of me.

And Bill Clinton said "I did not have sex with that woman". And he actually would know.

So two things to consider about the book and Sy's article:

1. What do they know? (to include how do they know or why would they know)

2. Are they telling the truth?

So we are back to "you are going to believe what you want to believe". You've believed something for 5 years and now someone has written something that aligns with that belief. So what?