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Potentially amazing news.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:38 am
by 5LD
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:43 am
by Ritterskoop
Fires the imagination.
Thanks for posting this. I have sent it to a friend with particular interest in the topic.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:00 pm
by marrymeflyfree
This is hope-inspiring....fantastic to see such leaps in the research.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:03 pm
by Jeemie
Clinical trials of this will prove to be an ethical challenge.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:04 pm
by christie1111
I certainly hope this comes to be.
It would be awesome news.
Thanks 5LD.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:05 pm
by christie1111
Jeemie wrote:Clinical trials of this will prove to be an ethical challenge.
How so?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:05 pm
by Appa23
Jeemie wrote:Clinical trials of this will prove to be an ethical challenge.
Why?
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:14 pm
by Ritterskoop
When you do clinical trials, you must have a control group who gets the placebo, to measure if the treatment works.
If the treatment proves to work, members of the control group usually get the treatment, but for something like this it could be too late.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:20 pm
by gsabc
Same as with any life-threatening disease and a new treatment. Finding patients who haven't been on any other drug (so as not to skew the data potentially), and then giving half of them a placebo (so they effectively have no treatment at all). The company will jump in, stop the study (with FDA approval) and give everyone the drug in extreme cases where the difference between drug and placebo becomes obvious, but in the meantime, you've got untreated sick people.
Depending on how the early phase clinicals are designed, though, and of course the efficacy of the drug, the normal phase 3 double-blind might be bypassed in a case like this. Seems like a good idea, but I'm curious how they seem so certain that the particular stretch of virus does not mutate.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:44 pm
by tlynn78
medical science is a fascinating, scary, intriguing, amazing thing.
t.
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:51 pm
by ghostjmf
This would be a very very very good thing.
And I wonder if other rapidly mutating viruses, like the flu, which occasionally sports lethal variants (think "bird flu"), have vulnerable non-variant genetic regions that would also be susceptible to such treatment (with, of course, an abzyme, another word I've never heard before, specific to them).
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:56 am
by christie1111
gsabc wrote:Same as with any life-threatening disease and a new treatment. Finding patients who haven't been on any other drug (so as not to skew the data potentially), and then giving half of them a placebo (so they effectively have no treatment at all). The company will jump in, stop the study (with FDA approval) and give everyone the drug in extreme cases where the difference between drug and placebo becomes obvious, but in the meantime, you've got untreated sick people.
Depending on how the early phase clinicals are designed, though, and of course the efficacy of the drug, the normal phase 3 double-blind might be bypassed in a case like this. Seems like a good idea, but I'm curious how they seem so certain that the particular stretch of virus does not mutate.
This why I ask Jeemie what he meant. As a fellow scientist he should understand how these trials work.