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QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#1 Post by mrkelley23 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:17 pm

QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

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1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.
2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?
3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.
4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.
5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#2 Post by Catfish » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:38 pm

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1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.

alidade

2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?

eastern Ohio, The Seven Ranges

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.

Thoreau

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.

The Domesday Book

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

Institution of Civil Engineers

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
I've given up trying to find a Latin translation of “harness the power of nature for the benefit of mankind,” so I'll go with "Scientia et Ingenio."
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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#3 Post by tanstaafl2 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:47 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

Remember, Googling and other electronic assistance is not only allowed, but encouraged for weekend QoDs. 10 points per corret answer, plus a 10 point bonus question this time.
Not likely to have much time this weekend so will take a quick crack at it now.
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1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.
Not off to a good start. Best I can come up with is the "Alidade".

2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?
Seven Ranges survey of the southeastern edge of present day Ohio?

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.
Thoreau

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.
Domesday Book

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?
A bit unclear as there was some discussion about how part of the structure located at the northwest "corner" wasn't started until 1935 or 1936 because of leasing issues of the buildings located on the corner but I will go with the "Institution of Chartered Surveyors" which is now known as RICS or the "Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors" . The "Chartered" part came in 1930 but the "Royal" part didn't come until later in the 1940's.

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
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#4 Post by tanstaafl2 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:52 pm

Catfish wrote:
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5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

Institution of Civil Engineers

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
I've given up trying to find a Latin translation of “harness the power of nature for the benefit of mankind,” so I'll go with "Scientia et Ingenio."
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Hmm, seems in my haste I may have stumbled on the wrong organization. Although the one I found seems to be more in line with the rest of the questions...

And had an easily identified motto!

We shall see.
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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#5 Post by Catfish » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:42 pm

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tanstaafl2 wrote:
Catfish wrote:5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

Institution of Civil Engineers

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
I've given up trying to find a Latin translation of “harness the power of nature for the benefit of mankind,” so I'll go with "Scientia et Ingenio."

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Hmm, seems in my haste I may have stumbled on the wrong organization. Although the one I found seems to be more in line with the rest of the questions...

And had an easily identified motto!

We shall see.[/quote]
Uh-oh. And now that I see your answer, I feel I am doomed. Or shall I say domed?
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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#6 Post by jarnon » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:46 pm

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1. alidade
2. Ohio
3. Thoreau
4. Domesday Book
5. Institution of Civil Engineers

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#7 Post by VAdame » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:32 pm

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1. Theodolite (from "the alidade")

2. ?? I think in Ohio. Don't know what it was called. Ohio Lands?

3. Thoreau

4. the Domesday Book

5. the Institution of Civil Engineers, or ICE

Bonus: Not sure. Maybe "Fortiter Conde, Animo Forti" (Build Strongly, With a Resolute Mind) At least, that's the South African Civil Engineers motto -- close enough? :wink:
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Oops, I think I did the same thing as Tan!

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#8 Post by LookingForHumorPoints » Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:56 am

QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

Remember, Googling and other electronic assistance is not only allowed, but encouraged for weekend QoDs. 10 points per corret answer, plus a 10 point bonus question this time.


1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.

The doohickey

2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?

Three Mile Island. It was called Half Wet/Half Dry

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.

Ralph Nader

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.

The AT&T REAL Yellow Pages

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

The Rolling Stones

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?

Jumpin' Jack Flash is a gas gas gas


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#9 Post by hf_jai » Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:48 am

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1. dunno
(but I have a feeling this will be a "d'oh!" moment when I see the answer)
2. first used in eastern Ohio, called the "Plat of the Seven Ranges of Townships"
(even tho my address is Stilwell, I really live in Aubrey Township)
3. Henry David Thoreau
4. Domesday Book
5. Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors

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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#10 Post by JBillyGirl » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:34 am

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1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle. -- alidade
2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called? -- eastern Ohio; Seven Ranges survey
3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township. -- Henry David Thoreau
4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror. -- the Domesday Book
5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935? -- Institution of Chartered Surveyors

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5? -- "Est modus in rebus"

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#11 Post by AnnieCamaro » Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:46 am

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mrkelley23 wrote:QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.
Theodolite?

2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?
The method was for use in the Northwest Territory. It was first used specifically in what now is Eastern Ohio, and that survey was called Seven Ranges

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.
Henry David Thoreau

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.
Domesday Book

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?
Institution of Civil Engineers

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
Scientia et Ingenio

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Re: QoD Weekend 06/20-23/08 "When I survey...."

#12 Post by andrewjackson » Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:19 pm

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1. Alidade.
2. It was invented for the Northwest Territory but was first used specifically in south-eastern Ohio. That first survey is called the Seven Ranges.
3. Henry David Thoreau
4. The Domesday Book
5. Institution of Chartered Surveyors (in 1936 they became the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors)

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#13 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:13 am

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1. pass
2. eastern Ohio, the Federal Survey System
3. Henry David Thoreau
4. the Domesday Book
5. the Institution of Civil Engineers
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#14 Post by mcd1400de » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:12 pm

When I saw the title, I was hoping for questions relating to hymns.... darn.

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mrkelley23 wrote:QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….


1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.
<b> Alidade </b>

2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?
<b>First used in Ohio, on the north shore of the Ohio River at the border with Pennsylvania and Virginia. It was called the Seven Ranges, after the area of land surveyed.</b>

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.
<b> Thoreau</b>

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.
<b> the Domesday Book</b>

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?
<b>Institution of Civil Engineers</b>

Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?
<b>Scientia et Ingenio</b>
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#15 Post by fantine33 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:32 pm

Two I knew (I think, ha!), the other ones I just went with the first thing I found.
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QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

Remember, Googling and other electronic assistance is not only allowed, but encouraged for weekend QoDs. 10 points per corret answer, plus a 10 point bonus question this time.


1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.

Alidade


2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called?

Eastern Ohio, Seven Ranges

3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township.

Thoreau

4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror.

The Domesday Book

5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935?

Royal Institution of Chartered Surveryors


Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?

Est modus in rebus


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#16 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:18 pm

QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.theodolite. That word is itself a corruption of “the alidade.” An alidade is the top part of a theodolite.
2. The Public Land Act of 1785 mandated a method of surveying that was used, nearly unchanged, through the westward expansion of the United States. The method consisted of dividing land up into 6 x 6 mile parcels, called townships. Where was this method of surveying first used, and what was this first survey called? Eastern Ohio, the Seven Ranges
3. This author of “Resistance to Civil Government” became a surveyor late in life, the better to appreciate his now-famous township. Thoreau
4. This massive tome was the record of the great survey of England, commissioned by William the Conqueror. Domesday Book
5. What was the name of the professional group whose headquarters were located at the corner of Parliament Square and Great George Street in 1935? Institution of Chartered Surveyors.


Bonus: What is the Latin motto of the present version organization referred to in Question #5?

Est Modus in Rebus.

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#17 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:54 am

mrkelley23 wrote:QoD Weekend 062008-062308 When I survey….

1. The name of this piece of surveying equipment is probably a corruption of the name of its own upper part, which was in itself named through the Arabic words for the moving radius of a circle.theodolite. That word is itself a corruption of “the alidade.” An alidade is the top part of a theodolite.

Hmmm. Once again, I'm not complaining or trying for more points, just discussing.

The OED says this about the origin of "theodolite":

"[Note. The name, alike in the Latinized form theodelitus and the vernacular theodelite (subseq. -dolite), originated in England, and is not known in French and German until the 19th c. Its first user, and probable inventor, L. or T. Digges, has left no account of its composition, as to which various futile conjectures, incompatible with its early history and use, have been offered; such is the notion that it arose in some way out of alhidada or its corruption athelida occurring in Bourne's Treasure for Travailers 1578, which an examination of the works of Digges and Bourne, where both words occur in their proper senses, shows to be absurd. Theodelite has the look of a formation from Greek; can it have been (like many modern names of inventions) an unscholarly formation from {theta}{epsilon}{gaacu}{omicron}{mu}{alpha}{iota} ‘I view’ or {theta}{epsilon}{gwfrown} ‘behold’ and {delta}{ghfrown}{lambda}-{omicron}{fsigma} ‘visible, clear, manifest’, with a meaningless termination?]"


Most of the other sources I look at say "Theodolite" is from the New Latin theodelitus
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#18 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:43 pm

I don't claim to be an etymological expert, but this is one entry in OED that really strikes me as odd. If alhadida (which in itself is an Anglicized approximation of the actual Arabic term) can be corrupted to "athelida," why is it so ludicrous that athelida could be corrupted to theodolite? That explanation makes much more sense to me than some Greek formation with a "meaningless termination."

In any case, the question makes no claim to certainty, and although the OED pooh-poohs the idea, there are plenty of sources online (including the OED's own internal denial) that connect the question to the word "theodolite" and no other. If your calim is that "alidade" is a more correct answer, what's the top part of it called? And what's the corruption of it?
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#19 Post by andrewjackson » Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:53 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:I don't claim to be an etymological expert, but this is one entry in OED that really strikes me as odd. If alhadida (which in itself is an Anglicized approximation of the actual Arabic term) can be corrupted to "athelida," why is it so ludicrous that athelida could be corrupted to theodolite? That explanation makes much more sense to me than some Greek formation with a "meaningless termination."

In any case, the question makes no claim to certainty, and although the OED pooh-poohs the idea, there are plenty of sources online (including the OED's own internal denial) that connect the question to the word "theodolite" and no other. If your calim is that "alidade" is a more correct answer, what's the top part of it called? And what's the corruption of it?
I have no alternate answer and I'm not claiming that "alidade" is a more correct answer. I couldn't figure out the answer so I put the word that I was sure derived from Arabic. As I said, I'm not trying to get more points or even to justify my answer. I just ran across sources that seemed to indicate that theodolite did not come from an Arabic source.

I wish I knew how to "dispute" answers without it sounding like I'm arguing in favor of my particular answer. Every single time I post like this I think I've figured it out but then later when I read it I just comes across as whiny.

I apologize for questioning your answer. I can't say I won't do it in the future but I'll try.

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#20 Post by mrkelley23 » Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:09 pm

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mrkelley23 wrote:I don't claim to be an etymological expert, but this is one entry in OED that really strikes me as odd. If alhadida (which in itself is an Anglicized approximation of the actual Arabic term) can be corrupted to "athelida," why is it so ludicrous that athelida could be corrupted to theodolite? That explanation makes much more sense to me than some Greek formation with a "meaningless termination."

In any case, the question makes no claim to certainty, and although the OED pooh-poohs the idea, there are plenty of sources online (including the OED's own internal denial) that connect the question to the word "theodolite" and no other. If your calim is that "alidade" is a more correct answer, what's the top part of it called? And what's the corruption of it?
I have no alternate answer and I'm not claiming that "alidade" is a more correct answer. I couldn't figure out the answer so I put the word that I was sure derived from Arabic. As I said, I'm not trying to get more points or even to justify my answer. I just ran across sources that seemed to indicate that theodolite did not come from an Arabic source.

I wish I knew how to "dispute" answers without it sounding like I'm arguing in favor of my particular answer. Every single time I post like this I think I've figured it out but then later when I read it I just comes across as whiny.

I apologize for questioning your answer. I can't say I won't do it in the future but I'll try.
No need to apologize, AJ. I understood what you were trying to say. I'm just no good at answering questions like that without sounding snippy, or at the very least, overly defensive. Good thing I'm not a librarian, huh? :D

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#21 Post by andrewjackson » Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:46 am

mrkelley23 wrote:
(2 months til college football season starts!)
Ah, yes. But more importantly 145 days until balance is restored to the Universe.

A replay of the 2007 Bucket game was on the Big Ten network the other day. I only watched the Purdue comeback and then turned off the TV.

Didn't help.
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