silverscreenselect wrote:
It's interesting how everyone just assumes that Obama is a liberal Democrat. However, every time he takes a position on an issue, he qualifies it or backtracks or explains. If Kerry was lambasted as a flip-flopper, Obama is the king. You don't vote present 129 times for nothing.
No, McCain should be renamed Flipper. He takes the prize.
Campaign finance reform? Who said during the primaries he was going to take public funds (because he was broke), took a loan against those public funds, and then didn't actually take the public financing (choosing instead to go private once he had the nomination locked up)?
That's a violation of FEC rules. Fortunately for McCain, the FEC is two commissioners short, so there's no enforcement mechanism.
Offshore drilling? McCain had been against it in the past, but now that his BFF George W. Bush wants it, The Pander Bear Express wants it as well.
Kowtowing to Christian fundamentalists? McCain explicitly rejected statements from Jerry Falwell in 2001, then kisses his ass at Liberty University in 2005. Need I also remind you about Pastor Hagee?
There's waaaay more, but you get the idea. Put McCain's record to the test, and you'll find he's taken at least two different positions on most issues.
silverscreenselect wrote:
Just this week, Obama filmed a campaign commercial for one of our conservative Georgia Congressmen, Max Barrow, who is facing a primary challenge from a far more liberal opponent. While it's not unusual for presidential candidates to support local candidates in a general election, it's fairly unusual to do so in a primary and Barrow is one of the most conservative Democrats in the House.
I don't know the specifics here, but hasn't the Georgia primary already happened? Wouldn't Max Barrow be the only Democrat running for the seat at this point?
If he's a conservative Dem, I'm all for a challenge from a more liberal opponent, but if it risks splitting the vote and putting a Republican in, maybe it would be better for Obama's working majority if the lesser of two evils won the seat.
If Barrow's voting record still sucks as much as you say, work for his primary opponent in 2010.
silverscreenselect wrote:
Obama voted for the Bush-Cheney energy bill and his actual voting record in Iraq (other than that one "brave" speech in 2002 that disappeared from his web site until he found a need to trot it out against Hillary) was the same as hers in most cases. And this is the same guy who claims Joe Lieberman is his "mentor."
As did McCain (wrt to Bush's energy bill). Do you seriously think the new drill, drill, drill McCain is better on energy issues than Obama?
And are you seriously contending that McCain is better than Obama on Iraq? McCain of Hundred Years War fame?
As for Joe Lieberman, maybe you didn't hear about Obama cornering him in the Senate recently and handing him a big, steaming cup of STFU. Lieberman is actively supporting McCain, if you don't know, so Obama doesn't have much time anymore from the junior senator from Connecticut. If the Democrats increase their Senate majority, look for Joementum to lose his plum committee assignments.
silverscreenselect wrote:
He's a guy who claims he won't take lobbyist money, then loads his staff with ex-lobbyist and says he sees nothing wrong with mid-level oil company execs personally deciding to donate as much money as they can to his campaign. And a guy who came out in favor of public financing before he came out against it.
Again, you're buying into right-wing memes. Obama's lawyers met with McCain's lawyers to try and hash out the public financing issue. McCain would not commit to taking public funds, so Obama's decision not to take public money was the only sensible decision.
Plus, Obama's developed the perfect antidote to corporate lobbyist donations. Raise hundreds of millions of dollars from individual donors. Again, do you seriously think that McCain isn't raising tons of money from corporate interests? Hell, the Republican Party is a giant money pump from corporations.
Also, tactically, it would be extremely stupid for Obama to take public money. He'd be limited to spending $86 million in the general election. He's already sitting on a war chest of nearly $250 million. Can you say 50-state strategy?
One last point about the oil executive in question - he donated money as an individual, not as a representative of his corporation. Big difference. Maybe he's the lone liberal at Exxon-Mobil. You don't know otherwise.
silverscreenselect wrote:
Obama tries to have it both ways on every issue he can and the press and his followers let him get away with it in a way that Hillary, McCain and other politicians can't.
The only thing you know about Obama is that he has consistently moved around in some very shady circles with some characters that presidents of the United States should not be palling around with.
I'd much rather put my money on John McCain's character and integrity than Obama's.
I'm calling you out, SSS. This guilt by association meme you're fixated on is a real problem. Honestly, when I read your posts, sometimes I think you've got a problem with Obama being Teh Black. I know you're hurt that Hillary lost, but you have to deal with it.
McCain's "character and integrity" is a chimera. The Straight Talk Express has turned into the Double Talk Express.
His policies are anathema to Democrats. If you truly support Democratic policies and objectives, a vote for McCain would just be bitter and spiteful. Do your research.
