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Are some Chimps smarter than some humans

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:27 pm
by themanintheseersuckersuit
Nim Chimpsky was born in Norman OK and then he went to NYC for his own special kind of hell.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:37 pm
by silvercamaro
Thank God, Roger Fouts managed to get Washoe out of Oklahoma and safely to Washington State with him. (Fouts had refused to sign over "ownership" for the first chimp to learn ASL.)

Lemmon was an SOB. He deserves to burn in hell for what he did to all the other chimps, which was far worse than anything mentioned in this story.

Not that I have a strong opinion about it or anything.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:48 pm
by themanintheseersuckersuit
silvercamaro wrote:Thank God, Roger Fouts managed to get Washoe out of Oklahoma and safely to Washington State with him. (Fouts had refused to sign over "ownership" for the first chimp to learn ASL.)

Lemmon was an SOB. He deserves to burn in hell for what he did to all the other chimps, which was far worse than anything mentioned in this story.

Not that I have a strong opinion about it or anything.
So I guess smart/less smart is not the pertinent question, its "are some more evil that than others", and sadly we've known the answer to that since before writing was invented.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:22 pm
by silvercamaro
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
So I guess smart/less smart is not the pertinent question, its "are some more evil that than others", and sadly we've known the answer to that since before writing was invented.
I can answer the question, however, having spent some time at the Primate Farm when it was still a good place to be. There is no question that some chimpanzees are smarter than some humans. Chimpanzees, like humans, demonstrate a range of intelligence and special skills. Furthermore, some chimpanzees are more human than the humanity demonstrated by some of the lesser hairless apes.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:41 pm
by mrkelley23
If you haven't read it, the original "Jerry Was a Man" is still powerful, although dated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Was_a_Man

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:50 pm
by Bob Juch
mrkelley23 wrote:If you haven't read it, the original "Jerry Was a Man" is still powerful, although dated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Was_a_Man
I read the original story as well as viewed the ABC show. We're going to have to deal with that issue sometime soon.