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Another airplane accident

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:15 pm
by Bob Juch
Today at the Marana Airport (Marana is a town just to the west of Oro Valley and north of Tucson), two planes collided. They didn't say if it was in the air or on the ground. One person was killed; no other details.

I hope the firings at the FAA and NTSB don't impede the investigations.

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 1:26 pm
by Bob Juch
A Lancair collided in midair with a Cessna 172 at Marana Regional Airport in Arizona around 8:25 a.m. local time on Wednesday, February 19. Marana Regional Airport is an uncontrolled field. Two people were on board the Lancair, and two people were on board the Cessna 172.

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:08 pm
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:15 pm
Today at the Marana Airport (Marana is a town just to the west of Oro Valley and north of Tucson), two planes collided. They didn't say if it was in the air or on the ground. One person was killed; no other details.

I hope the firings at the FAA and NTSB don't impede the investigations.
400 recently hired support staff employees at the Federal Aviation Administration were fired, out of 45,000. Your media it playing you, and you're letting them.
Marana Regional Airport is an uncontrolled field.
So not a single FAA controller would have made a differnece. The ineptness is somewhere local to crash.

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:58 pm
by Bob Juch
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 2:08 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 12:15 pm
Today at the Marana Airport (Marana is a town just to the west of Oro Valley and north of Tucson), two planes collided. They didn't say if it was in the air or on the ground. One person was killed; no other details.

I hope the firings at the FAA and NTSB don't impede the investigations.
400 recently hired support staff employees at the Federal Aviation Administration were fired, out of 45,000. Your media it playing you, and you're letting them.
Marana Regional Airport is an uncontrolled field.
So not a single FAA controller would have made a differnece. The ineptness is somewhere local to crash.
The FAA plays a crucial role in airplane crash investigations in the United States. It primarily supports the NTSB, which is the lead agency for civilian aviation accident inquiries.

When a crash occurs, FAA inspectors and technical experts respond to assist the NTSB. They work to secure radar data, voice recordings, and air traffic communications while also analyzing aircraft performance, maintenance history, and pilot certifications. A key part of their role is determining whether the aircraft, airline, and crew complied with aviation regulations at the time of the accident. This involves reviewing maintenance records, pilot training documentation, and operational procedures to identify any compliance issues.

The FAA also provides essential air traffic control recordings and transcripts, which help reconstruct the flight’s final moments. Additionally, they assist in retrieving and analyzing data from the Flight Data Recorder (FDR) and Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR), commonly known as "black boxes."

The FAA collaborates with aircraft and engine manufacturers such as Boeing, Airbus, and their component suppliers to assess whether technical failures contributed to the crash. It also works closely with airlines to obtain relevant operational data and crew training records. If systemic issues are discovered, the FAA has the authority to implement new safety regulations or issue airworthiness directives, including emergency measures, if an immediate risk is identified.

For accidents involving foreign airlines or aircraft manufacturers, the FAA coordinates with international aviation agencies such as the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). After an investigation is completed, the FAA takes necessary actions based on the findings. If violations of federal aviation regulations are found, they can enforce penalties or mandate changes in procedures. Additionally, the FAA works alongside the NTSB to implement safety recommendations that help prevent future accidents.

While the NTSB is responsible for determining the probable cause of aviation accidents, the FAA ensures that regulations are enforced and corrective actions are taken to enhance aviation safety.


How many NTSB employees are left?

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:59 pm
by Bob Juch
Each plane had one pilot; neither did survive.

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:50 am
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 7:58 pm

How many NTSB employees are left?
All of them, from what I can find (no eveidence any were laid off, fired, or eligible to resign under the Trump offer).

Each plane had one pilot; neither did survive.
Sad.

Re: Another airplane accident

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:37 pm
by Bob Juch
Tucson's local stations' new reporting is terrible. They all will give a brief report and say they will update with more details but never do.

Here's an update from the San Francisco Chronicle:

Federal air-safety investigators said each plane had two people aboard when they collided at Marana Regional Airport on the outskirts of Tucson.

A Cessna 172 landed uneventfully and a Lancair 360 MK II hit the ground near a runway and caught fire, according to the National Transportation Safety Board, which is leading the investigation and cited preliminary information before its investigators had arrived.

The Marana Police Department confirmed that the two people killed were aboard one aircraft and said responders did not have a chance to provide medical treatment. Police did not identify which plane they were in, but the operator of the Cessna —AeroGuard, a commercial flight training school — said its two pilots were not injured.