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Publishing News

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:28 pm
by Vandal
Most of it is not good. My most recent publisher, Pen It Publications, released me and many other authors from our contracts a few weeks back. This includes The Dragon's Song and Devin Drake and the Family Secret, plus the unpublished sequel Devin Drake and the Roller-Ghoster. The only positive out of the move was that they sent me all the proofs and artwork, which I am free to reuse if needed (unlikely).

It was not easy to find a publisher to republish a book, even more so a second time, like Dragon and Family Secret. It is also difficult to publish a sequel if the first one is in limbo.

There is some good news, though. Ten years after the publication of The Secret at Haney Field, I have completed and sent in the long-awaited sequel to the same publisher. If published, it will be book number nine and likely my last. Except for edits to existing manuscripts, I am retiring from fiction writing. I just don't have the ideas and skills I used to have.

Many thanks to Ms. Beebs for beta reading all of them for me. Thanks to Bored members who have supported me over the years.

It has been quite a journey.

Peace.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:07 am
by BackInTex
Bittersweet post to read.

Forget finding a publisher, you need a producer.

There is so little appropriate streaming content out there for pre-teens/young teens, it seems there would be a strong demand for a few made for kids movies.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:52 am
by SportsFan68
Well, here's a piece of bad news.

The Dragon's Song is so good! Thank you for the look at a piece of history I knew nothing about.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:56 am
by Beebs52
BiT has a good idea! Movies!
And it's been an honor.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:54 am
by littlebeast13
You pursued your passion with a lot more hard work and got a lot farther than most other people with a dream of writing for a living ever had. It's a shame you never got that one big break, but who knows.... much of your work is out there, and I'm pretty sure future best sellers have been yanked out of the clearance bin by influential people before.

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:07 am
Forget finding a publisher, you need a producer.
All of those big shot directors and actors who do promos for him.... you'd think they'd do him a favor.

lb13

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:54 pm
by mellytu74
When I read the Subject, I was afraid the news would be something like this.

I second (or third) BiT's suggestion.

There is an untapped market out there for age-related content. Your books would make terrific web films or films for a streaming platform.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:43 pm
by Vandal
Trying to sell a book's movie rights without an agent is a near impossible task, unless you know someone in "the biz", which I don't. I've had three agents and they all dropped me for various reasons, mainly they couldn't make any money off my books (via royalties or movie rights).

I thought The Dragon's Song was going to the one that allowed me to turn the corner, career-wise. I was sure my agent would find a large publisher and Binh Pham and I would make some good coin. The book would be sold to a producer who wants to make it into a series. Yay, us! Turned out to be pure fantasy on my part. Now it is only available through third-party book vendors and the copies that I own. I still love the book, but I guess it just isn't as good as I thought.

Thanks for all the kind words, folks.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:47 pm
by Bob78164
Vandal wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:43 pm
Trying to sell a book's movie rights without an agent is a near impossible task, unless you know someone in "the biz", which I don't. I've had three agents and they all dropped me for various reasons, mainly they couldn't make any money off my books (via royalties or movie rights).

I thought The Dragon's Song was going to the one that allowed me to turn the corner, career-wise. I was sure my agent would find a large publisher and Binh Pham and I would make some good coin. The book would be sold to a producer who wants to make it into a series. Yay, us! Turned out to be pure fantasy on my part. Now it is only available through third-party book vendors and the copies that I own. I still love the book, but I guess it just isn't as good as I thought.

Thanks for all the kind words, folks.
It happens I've spent the last ten weeks in trial with someone in "the biz." I have no idea whether your works are the type of property he'd be interested in, but I'd be happy to ask whether he'd like an introduction. --Bob

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
by silverscreenselect
I'm sorry to hear this. I've read some of your books, and they're better than a lot of stuff that's selling a lot better out there. The Dragon's Teeth is especially good. Unfortunately, it may be the most difficult to film because it would have a larger cast and be more expensive.

I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want. Re-publishing ebooks cost very little. You can write a new introduction to the books so you can promote them as "new" material. You have a website. I don't know if you have an email list or not, but you can reach out to your facebook and twitter followers. I know there are a number of book review blogs that specialize in books for younger readers. You can search them out or join some of the ARC groups on Facebook (the trick there is finding people who can get you some meaningful publicity as opposed to those who just want a free read).

Keep plugging, and don't get discouraged. You've got a lot better catalogue than many other authors.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:58 pm
by Bob Juch
Vandal wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:43 pm
Trying to sell a book's movie rights without an agent is a near impossible task, unless you know someone in "the biz", which I don't. I've had three agents and they all dropped me for various reasons, mainly they couldn't make any money off my books (via royalties or movie rights).

I thought The Dragon's Song was going to the one that allowed me to turn the corner, career-wise. I was sure my agent would find a large publisher and Binh Pham and I would make some good coin. The book would be sold to a producer who wants to make it into a series. Yay, us! Turned out to be pure fantasy on my part. Now it is only available through third-party book vendors and the copies that I own. I still love the book, but I guess it just isn't as good as I thought.

Thanks for all the kind words, folks.
I think I told you some years ago that I talked you up with an agent. Unfortunately, he's now the head of programming for Nickelodeon.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:01 pm
by Bob Juch
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I'm sorry to hear this. I've read some of your books, and they're better than a lot of stuff that's selling a lot better out there. The Dragon's Teeth is especially good. Unfortunately, it may be the most difficult to film because it would have a larger cast and be more expensive.

I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want. Re-publishing ebooks cost very little. You can write a new introduction to the books so you can promote them as "new" material. You have a website. I don't know if you have an email list or not, but you can reach out to your facebook and twitter followers. I know there are a number of book review blogs that specialize in books for younger readers. You can search them out or join some of the ARC groups on Facebook (the trick there is finding people who can get you some meaningful publicity as opposed to those who just want a free read).

Keep plugging, and don't get discouraged. You've got a lot better catalogue than many other authors.
You can publish yourself on Amazon, both paper books and Kindle books. I can tell you exactly how to do that if you're interested.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:25 pm
by Vandal
Bob78164 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:47 pm
Vandal wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:43 pm
Trying to sell a book's movie rights without an agent is a near impossible task, unless you know someone in "the biz", which I don't. I've had three agents and they all dropped me for various reasons, mainly they couldn't make any money off my books (via royalties or movie rights).

I thought The Dragon's Song was going to the one that allowed me to turn the corner, career-wise. I was sure my agent would find a large publisher and Binh Pham and I would make some good coin. The book would be sold to a producer who wants to make it into a series. Yay, us! Turned out to be pure fantasy on my part. Now it is only available through third-party book vendors and the copies that I own. I still love the book, but I guess it just isn't as good as I thought.

Thanks for all the kind words, folks.
It happens I've spent the last ten weeks in trial with someone in "the biz." I have no idea whether your works are the type of property he'd be interested in, but I'd be happy to ask whether he'd like an introduction. --Bob
That would be great. Thank you. My website is www.rmclarkauthor.com and my email is vandalrmc@comcast.net

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:29 pm
by Vandal
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I'm sorry to hear this. I've read some of your books, and they're better than a lot of stuff that's selling a lot better out there. The Dragon's Teeth is especially good. Unfortunately, it may be the most difficult to film because it would have a larger cast and be more expensive.

I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want. Re-publishing ebooks cost very little. You can write a new introduction to the books so you can promote them as "new" material. You have a website. I don't know if you have an email list or not, but you can reach out to your facebook and twitter followers. I know there are a number of book review blogs that specialize in books for younger readers. You can search them out or join some of the ARC groups on Facebook (the trick there is finding people who can get you some meaningful publicity as opposed to those who just want a free read).

Keep plugging, and don't get discouraged. You've got a lot better catalogue than many other authors.
Thanks for the advice and well wishes. I’m still exploring my options.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:30 pm
by Vandal
Bob Juch wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:01 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I'm sorry to hear this. I've read some of your books, and they're better than a lot of stuff that's selling a lot better out there. The Dragon's Teeth is especially good. Unfortunately, it may be the most difficult to film because it would have a larger cast and be more expensive.

I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want. Re-publishing ebooks cost very little. You can write a new introduction to the books so you can promote them as "new" material. You have a website. I don't know if you have an email list or not, but you can reach out to your facebook and twitter followers. I know there are a number of book review blogs that specialize in books for younger readers. You can search them out or join some of the ARC groups on Facebook (the trick there is finding people who can get you some meaningful publicity as opposed to those who just want a free read).

Keep plugging, and don't get discouraged. You've got a lot better catalogue than many other authors.
You can publish yourself on Amazon, both paper books and Kindle books. I can tell you exactly how to do that if you're interested.
Thanks. I’ll let you know if I choose to go that route.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2024 5:33 pm
by Beebs52
Yes! Check it out.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:57 am
by Vandal
Bob Juch wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 4:01 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I'm sorry to hear this. I've read some of your books, and they're better than a lot of stuff that's selling a lot better out there. The Dragon's Teeth is especially good. Unfortunately, it may be the most difficult to film because it would have a larger cast and be more expensive.

I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want. Re-publishing ebooks cost very little. You can write a new introduction to the books so you can promote them as "new" material. You have a website. I don't know if you have an email list or not, but you can reach out to your facebook and twitter followers. I know there are a number of book review blogs that specialize in books for younger readers. You can search them out or join some of the ARC groups on Facebook (the trick there is finding people who can get you some meaningful publicity as opposed to those who just want a free read).

Keep plugging, and don't get discouraged. You've got a lot better catalogue than many other authors.
You can publish yourself on Amazon, both paper books and Kindle books. I can tell you exactly how to do that if you're interested.
Check your PMs.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:18 am
by Ritterskoop
I'm certain that your next chapter will be a great part of the adventure. Best wishes.

Congrats on getting farther than many people who start this ride.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:40 pm
by Vandal
My sequel to The Secret at Haney Field was rejected by the publisher today. It seems unlikely I will make it to my goal of ten published books.

Such is life in the shallow end of the publishing pool.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:56 pm
by Vandal
Finally, some better news.

Coming soon:

Devin Drake and the Roller Ghoster was accepted for publication by Solstice Publishing. Release date pending.

Devin Drake and the Family Secret is now available on Kindle. I self published it via Kindle Direct Publishing under the name of my new publisher
Spoiler
Vandal Publishing
Link is here:

https://www.amazon.com/Devin-Drake-Fami ... 136&sr=8-1

Kindle version for The Dragon’s Song is coming soon.

Paperback version of both also upcoming.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:34 pm
by silverscreenselect
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want.
Words of wisdom.

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:10 pm
by Vandal
silverscreenselect wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:34 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2024 3:05 am
I don't know whether you've considered re-publishing these books yourself or not. That may be a viable option because you already have a ten-book catalogue. Call yourself Vandal Press or whatever you want.
Words of wisdom.
Truly

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 8:56 am
by Vandal
The Dragon’s Song Kindle version is now available:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DHNBJ8TF/re ... C88&sr=1-4

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 9:06 am
by Ritterskoop
I've bought your Kindle books, and it turns out we can now read them on a browser (not sure where my actual Kindle even is, anymore).

Congrats!

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 10:39 am
by Vandal
Moving up!

Best Sellers Rank: #545,589 in Kindle Store (See Top 100 in Kindle Store)
#21 in Teen & Young Adult Asian Historical Fiction eBooks

Re: Publishing News

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 1:13 pm
by Beebs52
Woot!