RIP the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore

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RIP the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore

#1 Post by BackInTex » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:49 am

Yikes!

Cargo ship hits Baltimore’s Key Bridge, bringing it down. Rescuers are looking for people in water
BALTIMORE (AP) — A container ship rammed into a major bridge in Baltimore early Tuesday, causing it to collapse in a matter of seconds and creating a terrifying scene as several vehicles plunged into the chilly river below.

It was not clear why the cargo ship crashed into the Francis Scott Key Bridge long before the morning commute, or how many people might be in the waters of the busy harbor near a key port. Rescuers pulled two people from the water by mid-morning and searched for more.
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#2 Post by BackInTex » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:58 am

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#3 Post by Vandal » Tue Mar 26, 2024 7:58 am

This page has a video of the collapse. It went down like it was made of Tinkertoys.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 102358007/
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#4 Post by mellytu74 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:20 am

We've been on that bridge countless times - my heart hurts for those lost and their families.

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#5 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:09 am

Just horrible.
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#6 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 9:14 am

I thought of Legos falling. We were counting cars crossing and didn't appear any were on at impact. Hope ones just before made it.
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#7 Post by kroxquo » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:42 am

Apparently a mayday was sent in time for authorities to close the bridge to prevent any more traffic on it.

Traffic in and aroun Baltimore is going to be a nightmare for quite a while. The bridge was main conduit for trucks carrying any hazmat materials up and down I-95 which can't use the downtown tunnels. And I would think that the Port of Baltimore will be closed also which shuts down one of the busiest on the east coast.
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Re: RIP the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore

#8 Post by BackInTex » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:19 am

kroxquo wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:42 am
Apparently a mayday was sent in time for authorities to close the bridge to prevent any more traffic on it.

Traffic in and aroun Baltimore is going to be a nightmare for quite a while. The bridge was main conduit for trucks carrying any hazmat materials up and down I-95 which can't use the downtown tunnels. And I would think that the Port of Baltimore will be closed also which shuts down one of the busiest on the east coast.
It will be a logistical mess for some time, for sure. Likely years. Hopefully the government challenges itself like it did during the Space Race to think outside the box to deliver success at an unexpected pace. Perhaps design, engineer, and contruct a new bridge parrallel to this one so the two projects (building the new one and demolishing the old one) can be done simultaneously. Though I suspect, if resources are there, the remenants of the current bridge could be cleared before the engineering work could be completed on a new one. That would free the harbor to resume operations.
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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:23 pm

My daughter and I drove over that about four years ago. :shock:
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Re: RIP the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore

#10 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:54 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:19 am
It will be a logistical mess for some time, for sure. Likely years. Hopefully the government challenges itself like it did during the Space Race to think outside the box to deliver success at an unexpected pace. Perhaps design, engineer, and contruct a new bridge parrallel to this one so the two projects (building the new one and demolishing the old one) can be done simultaneously. Though I suspect, if resources are there, the remenants of the current bridge could be cleared before the engineering work could be completed on a new one. That would free the harbor to resume operations.
After the 1994 earthquake, when an overpass on the 10 freeway collapsed right in the middle of Los Angeles, they were able to get it up and running again in about 3 months. I understand that the contractor received quite a bonus for coming in well ahead of schedule. I get that bridges are harder than overpasses as well as longer, but this example gives me hope that government can work well and that the repair can be completed much faster than people currently expect. --Bob
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Re: RIP the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore

#11 Post by BackInTex » Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:06 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:54 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:19 am
It will be a logistical mess for some time, for sure. Likely years. Hopefully the government challenges itself like it did during the Space Race to think outside the box to deliver success at an unexpected pace. Perhaps design, engineer, and contruct a new bridge parrallel to this one so the two projects (building the new one and demolishing the old one) can be done simultaneously. Though I suspect, if resources are there, the remenants of the current bridge could be cleared before the engineering work could be completed on a new one. That would free the harbor to resume operations.
After the 1994 earthquake, when an overpass on the 10 freeway collapsed right in the middle of Los Angeles, they were able to get it up and running again in about 3 months. I understand that the contractor received quite a bonus for coming in well ahead of schedule. I get that bridges are harder than overpasses as well as longer, but this example gives me hope that government can work well and that the repair can be completed much faster than people currently expect. --Bob
If they decide to reuse the existing supports (other than the one hit) then it would be much faster but given they are over 40 years old, I doubt that would be acceptible. The gap between land is a little over a mile so a continuous suspension is doable. That will likely be the new design, not leaving anything in the path of any ship to repeat today's disaster.

The Gordy Howe Bridge connecting Detroit to Windsor has a span of "only" 2800 ft. Construction started in 2018 and is not expected to be complete until 2025 (7 years, not counting design and engineering). With all available resources and incentives, Chuck, I think they can build that bridge in 6 note...er.... 6 years.
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