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A possibly contrarian opinion

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:25 pm
by mrkelley23
Disclaimer first, to ward off some:

Climate change is real. Global mean temperatures are rising. Human behavior and technology is a major cause. And rising temperatures are not a good thing for the Earth.

The contrarian part: Hawaii governor Josh Green led off one of his press conferences about the wildfires by saying "climate change is here." If he had meant Hawaii's disappearing beaches due to rising seas, that would be an appropriate argument. But he was saying it in reference to the Maui and Big Island wildfires. Actual scientists, on the other hand, say that climate change had, if anything, a small effect on the wildfires. Not to mention that Hawaii's own scientists have been warning for decades that a wildfire would be the worst kind of catastrophe for the islands, which are woefully underprepared for this kind of event.

Politicians love to cover their patooties by citing shiny objects. This is one of those times. And it doesn't help in the ongoing attempt to convince skeptics about climate change when you use science to wrongfully lay blame elsewhere for your shortcomings.

Re: A possibly contrarian opinion

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:55 pm
by Beebs52
Yes there is climate change. Anthropogenic or otherwise, caused by whichever countries yada yada.
Thank you for acknowledging this catastrophe is probably due to something else. Maybe not turning wires off or whatever.