The consequences of fixing elections - squared

[flockofseagulls104]

https://youtu.be/zXoAAsYfmg8

[jarnon]

Yes, Fetterman has some difficulty speaking since his stroke, and Biden’s had a speech impediment his whole life. What does that have to do with their ability to govern? You might as well show Sen. Duckworth in her wheelchair. There are plenty of fair ways you can criticize Biden (such as, he’ll be 86 at the end of his second term).

And drop the BS about rigged elections. Fetterman beat Oz fair and square (actually Oz beat himself).

[flockofseagulls104]

I would suggest you stop the BS about the elections in question being 'the most secure in history' in order to avoid any and every attempt to fix the OBVIOUS security problems that may or may not have actually happened. I have documented here how the elections in question HAVE been interfered with that are obvious. And I have seen many demonstrations and studies of how the election systems could have and may have been tampered with.

Here's one: https://www.scribd.com/document/6532803 ... -security#

BTW, there was one local race in my own county that showed how vulnerable we are.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/all-posts ... suspected/

There ARE problems, but your party and their minions resist any effort to fix or even address those problems by demonizing those of us who even question the established narrative that is desperately defended.

The people who may have benefitted from the election interference that DID take place, two of which are shown in all their cognitive glory above, are currently in office. Many of us believe they are there illegitimately, Just like ALL OF THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP believed with Trump for 4 years. We want to fix the problems that lead half the country to not trust the election systems. You should be with us. But, no.

[kroxquo]

I would suggest you stop the BS about the elections in question being 'the most secure in history' in order to avoid any and every attempt to fix the OBVIOUS security problems that may or may not have actually happened. I have documented here how the elections in question HAVE been interfered with that are obvious. And I have seen many demonstrations and studies of how the election systems could have and may have been tampered with.

Here's one: https://www.scribd.com/document/6532803 ... -security#

BTW, there was one local race in my own county that showed how vulnerable we are.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/all-posts ... suspected/

There ARE problems, but your party and their minions resist any effort to fix or even address those problems by demonizing those of us who even question the established narrative that is desperately defended.

The people who may have benefitted from the election interference that DID take place, two of which are shown in all their cognitive glory above, are currently in office. Many of us believe they are there illegitimately, Just like ALL OF THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP believed with Trump for 4 years. We want to fix the problems that lead half the country to not trust the election systems. You should be with us. But, no.

Your first source goes on at length about how the machines COULD be tampered with but gives no evidence that they were. There has yet to be any evidence presented anywhere about the validity of the election that would stand up in a court of law.

Your second source shows how the system of checks actually does work to prevent voter fraud and election error. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (which I have no doubt you will dismiss as part of the MSM who is in on the plot) reported on the error. https://www.ajc.com/politics/miscount-i ... UZGZW2LLM/

The error in the voting was spotted immediately and rectified. Key quotes from the article:
"Paper ballots printed from Georgia’s voting touchscreens will ensure accurate results, state Elections Director Blake Evans said.

'Georgia’s election system works and is secure,' Evans said. 'DeKalb’s elections team is setting an example for the rest of the state of how to properly audit and review results before certification.'

... '“Our staff not only followed the proper procedures in advance but responded with urgency when this error came to light,” DeKalb Election Board Chairwoman Dele Lowman Smith said. “DeKalb County voters can take courage in the multiple checks and balances built into the voting process that should give them confidence in the outcome of this vote.'”

I've worked the polls and although North Carolina uses a different system, I can tell you that election security is the absolute highest priority and extreme care is taken to ensure it.

BTW, if you are concerned about election security, why not sign up to be a poll worker? If Georgia is anything like North Carolina, they are desperate for people and (at least in NC) they pay you for your time.

[silverscreenselect]

There ARE problems, but your party and their minions resist any effort to fix or even address those problems by demonizing those of us who even question the established narrative that is desperately defended.

The main people in Georgia who have defended the integrity of the voting machines and the election results are Brad Raffensperger (who oversees the elections) and Brian Kemp (who is the state governor). No Democrats there. You'll be hearing a lot more from Raffensperger in a few months when he testifies in Georgia in the criminal case against Trump.

[flockofseagulls104]

I would suggest you stop the BS about the elections in question being 'the most secure in history' in order to avoid any and every attempt to fix the OBVIOUS security problems that may or may not have actually happened. I have documented here how the elections in question HAVE been interfered with that are obvious. And I have seen many demonstrations and studies of how the election systems could have and may have been tampered with.

Here's one: https://www.scribd.com/document/6532803 ... -security#

BTW, there was one local race in my own county that showed how vulnerable we are.

https://www.georgiarecord.com/all-posts ... suspected/

There ARE problems, but your party and their minions resist any effort to fix or even address those problems by demonizing those of us who even question the established narrative that is desperately defended.

The people who may have benefitted from the election interference that DID take place, two of which are shown in all their cognitive glory above, are currently in office. Many of us believe they are there illegitimately, Just like ALL OF THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP believed with Trump for 4 years. We want to fix the problems that lead half the country to not trust the election systems. You should be with us. But, no.

Your first source goes on at length about how the machines COULD be tampered with but gives no evidence that they were. There has yet to be any evidence presented anywhere about the validity of the election that would stand up in a court of law.

Your second source shows how the system of checks actually does work to prevent voter fraud and election error. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution (which I have no doubt you will dismiss as part of the MSM who is in on the plot) reported on the error. https://www.ajc.com/politics/miscount-i ... UZGZW2LLM/

The error in the voting was spotted immediately and rectified. Key quotes from the article:
"Paper ballots printed from Georgia’s voting touchscreens will ensure accurate results, state Elections Director Blake Evans said.

'Georgia’s election system works and is secure,' Evans said. 'DeKalb’s elections team is setting an example for the rest of the state of how to properly audit and review results before certification.'

... '“Our staff not only followed the proper procedures in advance but responded with urgency when this error came to light,” DeKalb Election Board Chairwoman Dele Lowman Smith said. “DeKalb County voters can take courage in the multiple checks and balances built into the voting process that should give them confidence in the outcome of this vote.'”

I've worked the polls and although North Carolina uses a different system, I can tell you that election security is the absolute highest priority and extreme care is taken to ensure it.

BTW, if you are concerned about election security, why not sign up to be a poll worker? If Georgia is anything like North Carolina, they are desperate for people and (at least in NC) they pay you for your time.

Krox,
I am very well aware of what's going on in Georgia, especially in DeKalb County. I have been a poll watcher in all the most recent elections, and have attended meetings of the DeKalb County Election Board. I have seen Lowman Smith in action. Because of those experiences and other reasons, I decided to become active. Lowman Smith has resigned, though the rumor is she has been forced to do so. Like most, if not all, of the elected officials in DeKalb County and those they hire and appoint, she is a very partisan democrat. But she made a mistake.

I was a small part of the successful effort to stymie her backhanded effort to get Zuckerbucks, even though the 'racist' law passed by Georgia made it illegal. To circumvent the law, the DeKalb County administration applied for the Zuckerbucks, not the Election Board (without reporting that they had done so), and Lowman Smith was overheard bragging about it to her colleagues when they got a 2 million dollar grant, which was then going to be transferred to the election board. No doubt this was a test case for doing so throughout the state. They knew what the objective of the law was, but they found a loophole that they decided to work, which we closed on them.

Our Republican County Chairman, working with less than a month's deadline in the State Legislative Session, got a bill written and passed on the last day which forbade that kind of circumvention. It remains to be seen what is going to happen with the 2 million Zuckerbucks.

DeKalb County, along with Fulton, is run by a Democrat machine. And because there is no electoral college in the State, they frequently negate the wishes of the rest of the state, just as the democrat machines in large cities rule the states they are in. I am lending my time and my skills to try and break the machine. And I have seen many credible reports and follow Garland Favorito, Rick Richardson and many others that document the vulnerabilities of machine voting (especially Dominion Machines), the inaccuracy of the voter rolls, etc.

Despite what you are told, there have been LOADS of evidence presented of voting machine tampering. But it is very technical. As an IT person, I can follow and understand what they demonstrate, and I know from personal experience with training non-computer people, when you start talking technical stuff, you lose your audience quickly. Politicians, judges and lawyers would be among that group. I can understand why they are eager to ignore reports like I posted before, and go along to get along. And just like on this bored, it is so very easy to find someone who says the other person is full of shit, and push any questioning of the narrative under the rug.

My second source documented ONE case where the results were only questioned because it was OBVIOUS. What Nancy Jester questioned was what about cases where it is not so obvious? But she is only one of two non-democrats on the board, and they are outvoted on every important question. The DeKalb County Election Board, as of now, will not entertain any challenges to its voter roll. Why is that? I KNOW FOR A FACT that there is another voter on the state voter roll who is listed under MY ADDRESS. Unless he lives in my attic without my consent, his name should not be on the voter roll. Do I know for a fact that he is being used for nefarious reasons? No, I don't. But many people with data and skills I don't possess have documented that my case is not unique. And combined with the personal knowledge of how the democrat party willfully and secretly tried to circumvent state law, it gives me ample reason to be suspicious and untrusting of election results. The question is, krox, do you want to fix it so everyone can be trusting of the election system, or do you want to stand in the way of fixing it?

[silverscreenselect]

And because there is no electoral college in the State, they frequently negate the wishes of the rest of the state, just as the democrat machines in large cities rule the states they are in.

In Georgia, they had a "county unit" system in effect in the Democratic primary until 1962. (The winner of the Democratic primary was all but guaranteed to win the general election.) Counties were allotted 2, 4, or 6 county unit votes depending on their size, and it was winner take all. With 159 counties, many of them having populations of 10,000 or less, the rural counties had political power far beyond their population.

That system was ruled unconstitutional in 1963 by the Supreme Court in the first decision to use the phrase "one person, one vote." As usual, Flock doesn't like the concept that a state or county should be governed by the choice of the majority, unless that majority happens to be the one he agrees with.

Since that 1963 decision (based on the Baker vs. Carr decision a year earlier), every single state election system based on something resembling the electoral college (or the allocation of representatives by county instead of by population) has been ruled unconstitutional.