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The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:46 pm
by Bob Juch
No official announcement, but many sources confirm it.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:47 pm
by tlynn78
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:46 pm
No official announcement, but many sources confirm it.
*indict

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 5:58 pm
by Weyoun
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:47 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:46 pm
No official announcement, but many sources confirm it.
*indict
Trump said he was being INDICATED. Lot of confusion right now

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:05 pm
by BackInTex
Which grand jury? Weren’t there a couple?

Also, what was he indicted for? I’m curious of what crime, and the supposed date, and the statute of limitations on such crime. I haven’t been following this season of But But Trump.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:26 pm
by silverscreenselect
BackInTex wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:05 pm
Which grand jury? Weren’t there a couple?

Also, what was he indicted for? I’m curious of what crime, and the supposed date, and the statute of limitations on such crime. I haven’t been following this season of But But Trump.
The grand jury indictment with the exact charges is still sealed. But Trump and his lawyer have admitted that he has been indicted. CNN's sources say that it is over 30 counts of business fraud.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:01 pm
by Bob Juch
He will turn himself in on Tuesday.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:05 pm
by Bob Juch
tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 4:47 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:46 pm
No official announcement, but many sources confirm it.
*indict
The stupid spellchecker missed that as indite is a word too.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:01 pm
He will turn himself in on Tuesday.
Meaning I was correct that he wouldn’t be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:27 am
by Bob Juch
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:01 pm
He will turn himself in on Tuesday.
Meaning I was correct that he wouldn't be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)
Meaning TFG was wrong when he said he'd be arrested on Tuesday, 3/21.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:03 am
by BackInTex
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:27 am
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:01 pm
He will turn himself in on Tuesday.
Meaning I was correct that he wouldn't be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)
Meaning TFG was wrong when he said he'd be arrested on Tuesday, 3/21.
No, meaning you were wrong when you posted the thread.

Trump was 100% correct. He said "I expect to be arrested". I'm sure he did.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:06 pm
by wbtravis007
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:01 pm
He will turn himself in on Tuesday.
Meaning I was correct that he wouldn’t be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)
Yeah, you really nailed it this time. What's really impressive is that you managed to do that despite your professed ignorance about what's been going on lately about this.

Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:11 pm
by wbtravis007
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 11:03 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 8:27 am
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am


Meaning I was correct that he wouldn't be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)
Meaning TFG was wrong when he said he'd be arrested on Tuesday, 3/21.
No, meaning you were wrong when you posted the thread.

Trump was 100% correct. He said "I expect to be arrested". I'm sure he did.
I expect that your wife will come to my house tonight and ask me to make love to her.

Just saying.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:45 pm
by jarnon
Here is the text of the indictment:

Donald J. Trump Indictment

Statement of Facts

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:14 pm
by BackInTex
jarnon wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:45 pm
Here is the text of the indictment:

Donald J. Trump Indictment

Statement of Facts
Oh my! One of the statements of fact
36. On the day of the FBI searches, Lawyer A called to speak with the Defendant to
let him know what had occurred. In a return call, the Defendant told Lawyer A to “stay strong.”
I'm sure sometime in 2020 the Defendent washed his hand for less than the recommended 20 seconds, too.

This is all laughable. But sad for our country.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pm
by Bob78164
Notice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:17 pm
by Beebs52
Including Clintons. You're absolutely right.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pm
by tlynn78
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pm
Notice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
by Beebs52
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pm
Notice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pm
by Bob78164
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pm
Notice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.
And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.

I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:53 pm
by Beebs52
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pm
Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.
And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.

I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
At some point the gummint shouldn't waste resources, that they dint waste for other party similar bullshit. Many others should have answered as well, except fbi directors let it go.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:00 pm
by BackInTex
:)
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pm
Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.
And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.

I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob

Not careful enough. If you weren’t so inconsistent with your insistence someone be charged so it wasn’t obvious it’s only Trump, in your mind, who should be charged, you might be believable. Same goes with Bragg.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:07 pm
by Bob78164
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:53 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.
And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.

I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
At some point the gummint shouldn't waste resources, that they dint waste for other party similar bullshit. Many others should have answered as well, except fbi directors let it go.
They "let it go" because they concluded they couldn't prove a crime (in particular, the essential element of criminal intent) beyond a reasonable doubt.

Holding someone accountable who has made a career of openly flouting the law is pretty much the opposite of wasting governmental resources. It's demonstrating that no one, no matter how influential, is above the law. And that's an important lesson for the American people to see. --Bob

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:08 pm
by Bob78164
BackInTex wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:00 pm
:)
Bob78164 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pm
As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.
And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.

I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
Not careful enough. If you weren’t so inconsistent with your insistence someone be charged so it wasn’t obvious it’s only Trump, in your mind, who should be charged, you might be believable. Same goes with Bragg.
Except it wasn't only Donny who got charged. His CFO pleaded guilty. Michael Cohen went to prison for this scheme. Sent there, by the way, during Donny's Administration. --Bob

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:06 pm
by Beebs52
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to.
I have no idea if you've been consistent in the past in re that. What I do find consistent in your past is unrelenting dem bias and vitriol against repubs. With no regard to dem bad doers in the same regard.

Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:18 pm
by Bob78164
Beebs52 wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:06 pm
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to.
I have no idea if you've been consistent in the past in re that. What I do find consistent in your past is unrelenting dem bias and vitriol against repubs. With no regard to dem bad doers in the same regard.
There is nothing in our history even remotely comparable to Donny's open encouragement of an insurrection, his blatant disregard for the rule of law, and his interference with the peaceful transfer of power, going so far as to encourage insurrectionists who were calling for his own Vice President to be hanged (and were marching to the Capitol with the means to carry out their threat). There is also nothing in our history even remotely comparable to the Republican enablers who could have stopped him years ago.

It's not bias to call for unprecedented actions to be met with an unprecedented response. --Bob