The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening
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The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening
No official announcement, but many sources confirm it.
Last edited by Bob Juch on Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening
*indict
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Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening
Which grand jury? Weren’t there a couple?
Also, what was he indicted for? I’m curious of what crime, and the supposed date, and the statute of limitations on such crime. I haven’t been following this season of But But Trump.
Also, what was he indicted for? I’m curious of what crime, and the supposed date, and the statute of limitations on such crime. I haven’t been following this season of But But Trump.
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The grand jury indictment with the exact charges is still sealed. But Trump and his lawyer have admitted that he has been indicted. CNN's sources say that it is over 30 counts of business fraud.
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He will turn himself in on Tuesday.
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Re: The grand jury voted to indict TFG this evening
The stupid spellchecker missed that as indite is a word too.
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Re: The grand jury voted to indite TFG this evening
Meaning I was correct that he wouldn’t be arrested next week (3/17 post) or next week, either (3/24 post)
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Meaning TFG was wrong when he said he'd be arrested on Tuesday, 3/21.
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No, meaning you were wrong when you posted the thread.
Trump was 100% correct. He said "I expect to be arrested". I'm sure he did.
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Yeah, you really nailed it this time. What's really impressive is that you managed to do that despite your professed ignorance about what's been going on lately about this.
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Слава Україні!
עם ישראל חי
עם ישראל חי
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Oh my! One of the statements of factjarnon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:45 pmHere is the text of the indictment:
Donald J. Trump Indictment
Statement of Facts
I'm sure sometime in 2020 the Defendent washed his hand for less than the recommended 20 seconds, too.36. On the day of the FBI searches, Lawyer A called to speak with the Defendant to
let him know what had occurred. In a return call, the Defendant told Lawyer A to “stay strong.”
This is all laughable. But sad for our country.
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War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
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-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
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Notice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
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Including Clintons. You're absolutely right.
Well, then
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Well, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pmNotice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
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As much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pmWell, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pmNotice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
Well, then
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And yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pmAs much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pmWell, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:43 pmNotice that not a single one of the supposedly law-and-order Republicans defending Donny from these charges, either here on the Bored or in the wider world, is claiming he didn't commit the crimes he's being charged with. They're just saying he should be allowed to get away with them without facing charges. I, for one, think the American people need to see that no one, no matter how rich or how politically influential, is above the law. --Bob
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
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At some point the gummint shouldn't waste resources, that they dint waste for other party similar bullshit. Many others should have answered as well, except fbi directors let it go.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pmAnd yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pmAs much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pmWell, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
Well, then
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Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pmAnd yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:41 pmAs much as I am not a trump fan now, why yes! Funny how that works.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:36 pmWell, see, Mr. Lawyer, there's this little thing called presumption of innocence. Despite what you and that vaunted authority on all things legal, Nancy Pelosi believe, those charges still need to be proven by Bragg, not disproven by Trump. I don't know, nor do I assume he did the things he's charged with. I'm willing to wait and see.
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
Not careful enough. If you weren’t so inconsistent with your insistence someone be charged so it wasn’t obvious it’s only Trump, in your mind, who should be charged, you might be believable. Same goes with Bragg.
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They "let it go" because they concluded they couldn't prove a crime (in particular, the essential element of criminal intent) beyond a reasonable doubt.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:53 pmAt some point the gummint shouldn't waste resources, that they dint waste for other party similar bullshit. Many others should have answered as well, except fbi directors let it go.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pmAnd yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
Holding someone accountable who has made a career of openly flouting the law is pretty much the opposite of wasting governmental resources. It's demonstrating that no one, no matter how influential, is above the law. And that's an important lesson for the American people to see. --Bob
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Except it wasn't only Donny who got charged. His CFO pleaded guilty. Michael Cohen went to prison for this scheme. Sent there, by the way, during Donny's Administration. --BobBackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:00 pm
Not careful enough. If you weren’t so inconsistent with your insistence someone be charged so it wasn’t obvious it’s only Trump, in your mind, who should be charged, you might be believable. Same goes with Bragg.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:45 pmAnd yet all of these Republicans are saying he shouldn't even be charged. That's what's un-American.
I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to. --Bob
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I've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to.
I have no idea if you've been consistent in the past in re that. What I do find consistent in your past is unrelenting dem bias and vitriol against repubs. With no regard to dem bad doers in the same regard.
I have no idea if you've been consistent in the past in re that. What I do find consistent in your past is unrelenting dem bias and vitriol against repubs. With no regard to dem bad doers in the same regard.
Well, then
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There is nothing in our history even remotely comparable to Donny's open encouragement of an insurrection, his blatant disregard for the rule of law, and his interference with the peaceful transfer of power, going so far as to encourage insurrectionists who were calling for his own Vice President to be hanged (and were marching to the Capitol with the means to carry out their threat). There is also nothing in our history even remotely comparable to the Republican enablers who could have stopped him years ago.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 04, 2023 6:06 pmI've been careful to be consistent with my phrasing. I've said that anyone else who committed the acts Donny IS CHARGED WITH committing would also be charged. Most prominent Republicans are arguing that he should get a pass, whether he actually committed these crimes or not. That's indefensible. Let Donny answer the charges against him, just like anyone else would have to.
I have no idea if you've been consistent in the past in re that. What I do find consistent in your past is unrelenting dem bias and vitriol against repubs. With no regard to dem bad doers in the same regard.
It's not bias to call for unprecedented actions to be met with an unprecedented response. --Bob
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